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I can tell you, that the trick is, that the murderer ordered the same dish as the victim. And when the victim gets it, he sees that there is wasabi on it, what he doesn't like. He then says "this is not the one i ordered" and the murderer says "oh, i have ordered it, so there might be a mistake" and they swap and so he gets the poison. The only person who knows, that the victim doesn't eat wasabi is the lady who has a sushi shop on her own.

I don't know the motive, and I'm not sure if my translation was absulutely correct. But this is what i got from first reading it.
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Sere wrote: I can tell you, that the trick is, that the murderer ordered the same dish as the victim. And when the victim gets it, he sees that there is wasabi on it, what he doesn't like. He then says "this is not the one i ordered" and the murderer says "oh, i have ordered it, so there might be a mistake" and they swap and so he gets the poison. The only person who knows, that the victim doesn't eat wasabi is the lady who has a sushi shop on her own.

I don't know the motive, and I'm not sure if my translation was absulutely correct. But this is what i got from first reading it.
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2 filed case, as I expected. Good, maybe next case will be more dynamic.
One thing bothers me, what's with that 100 pills?? Will Conan take it or not?? This cure is useless if it last less and less time. Ai should find out REAL cure which give Conan and her their normal bodies permamently. Ehhh... Hope Gosho will explain that thing soon.
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i'm still not sure if it's pills or shots... well whatever, i don't think he's so stupid to take them... that would shorten it again... i guess ai comes up with something new!
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http://conan.thetrogdor.com/

File's now up in Chinese. All thanks to Conan for pointing it out!
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RedPoppy wrote: 2 filed case, as I expected. Good, maybe next case will be more dynamic.
One thing bothers me, what's with that 100 pills?? Will Conan take it or not?? This cure is useless if it last less and less time. Ai should find out REAL cure which give Conan and her their normal bodies permamently. Ehhh... Hope Gosho will explain that thing soon.
wee never red poppy  i am thinking  the real cure is still far off 
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Jd- wrote: http://conan.thetrogdor.com/

File's now up in Chinese. All thanks to Conan for pointing it out!
Really? Too bad I can't get in the site. Could somebody post other link??
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RedPoppy wrote:
Jd- wrote: http://conan.thetrogdor.com/

File's now up in Chinese. All thanks to Conan for pointing it out!
Really? Too bad I can't get in the site. Could somebody post other link??
Really? Not sure what's up there. It may be because the new domain isn't resolved in your area yet--it probably works now. If not...

http://www.sendspace.com/file/l736aj
http://www.mediafire.com/?xilfzniyeyz
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RedPoppy wrote: One thing bothers me, what's with that 100 pills??
I think that these "100 pills" will go unmentioned for some time.. then all of a sudden Shinichi will show up and we'll all be like "ZOMG NO WAI HOW?!"
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Jd- wrote: Really? Not sure what's up there. It may be because the new domain isn't resolved in your area yet--it probably works now. If not...

http://www.sendspace.com/file/l736aj
http://www.mediafire.com/?xilfzniyeyz
Thanks a lot! I don't know what's going on, even forum looks a lot different, I don't know if it's my computer's fault or something else.
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RedPoppy wrote: 2 filed case, as I expected. Good, maybe next case will be more dynamic.
One thing bothers me, what's with that 100 pills?? Will Conan take it or not?? This cure is useless if it last less and less time. Ai should find out REAL cure which give Conan and her their normal bodies permamently. Ehhh... Hope Gosho will explain that thing soon.
Basically, Conan wants the ability to change back on his own (since he didn't exactly have a choice in the recent incident).
If Ai would give him the pills, Conan would definitely take them. As Ai astutely pointed out, since Conan like to show off so much, he would go through the 100 pills in less than a week.

Length of the drug effect:
If the effect of the drug is counteracted by antibodies (which increases exponentially as long as the antigen, i.e. the drug, is present in the body), we can expect the length of effect to decrease logarithmically.
The first dose: 24 hours
The second dose: ln(24) hours = 3.178 hours
The third dose: ln(ln(24)) hours = 1.156 hours
etc...

As File 655 showed us, the second dose lasted less than 4 hours. In this manner, by the fifth consecutive dose, the time period of the drug effect would be insignificant due to the amount of antibodies in the body.

Supposedly, if Conan waits until the amount of existing antibodies die down, the drug effect will 24 hours again. Of course, knowing Conan's character, there is NO way he would wait that long, hence Ai's comment that he would go through the pills in less than a week.
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Ah, ah, ah... I must say I'm totally NOT interested in current case, I only hope next case will be better. Maybe with Okiya...? Sonoko...? Eh, so much disappointment lately... Maybe I shouldn't expect anything?

Don't laugh at me, but I imagined a scene which (to be honest) would never ever appear in next file. I mean a scene at the end, after solving sushi restaurant's case. Let me share it with you, even though it'll definitely won't happen.

Conan: Haibara, I gotta talk with you... About the antidote...
Ai: What's up, Kudo?
Conan (serious): Give me that 100 pills.
Ai: Are you crazy?! Haven't I told you already the whole thing? 100 pills, one week, no turning back...ever... Reconcile yourself to it.
Conan: I know it. I decided to take it. I guess it's the only way to destroy BO...a fight face to face...
Ai (half-mooned eyes): Yeah, right... And you don't want to do it because of that girl from the detective agency, ne?? You don't want to tell her some sweet things?? Don't be stupid. You know you can't tell her the truth and appear with your normal body...not yet.
Conan (blushing): Barooooo~! It's not like it! I really think it would be easier for me to destroy BO with my adult body.
Ai: Huh?
Conan: It lasts way too long...I've doubt if I will ever be strong enough to solve that case. Too much time keeping Ran worried, too much time lying her... I want to end up this case.
Ai: What if you won't manage to destroy them? You don't know it that well. They will kill you...
Conan: Maybe, but I have to try. I can't just sit and wait for next opportunity to face with them. I've wasted too much time. I don't want to stay like this forever. Try to understand me.
Ai (thinking): ...... Alright, Kudo. Do what you want, but remember you don't have so much time. Use it wisely.

Eh, the conversation from my dreams... It will never happen, but it sounds soooooo fantastic for me.
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