Mafia Round 18: Jungle Bells (Town wins)

[Eve]

Dus, I want to be the 9th player

[Kleene Onigiri]

I'll join! Maybe


But I have questions *get's killed by the GM*

Pisco, Mafia Eraser
Night action: Erase, Bribe
Interrogation: BO
Scent: Yes
Disguise: No
Items: Gun, Car-keys, Alcohol
Observe: Adult

what does: Night action: Erase, Bribe mean?
Can you use both actions on the same night? Can you just use one of them?

@sonoko:
- Sonoko can then use all the abilities of her friends, unless they are Kid or Vermouth, in which case she won't be able to use Kill or steal.

What about yukiko? Will sonoko be able to use the costumes? Will she be able to use the abilities of the disguises when yukiko is disguised?

Also, what happens when her friend dies. Will she still have the ability?
(also, maybe that's kinda powerful :V)

@bribe:
Bribe
- Roles with that action: Pisco
- Night action, Crime, can't be covered
- Once per game, the player can give the GM a suitcase full of cash.
- The BO's kill that night can't be hindered in any way, not even by arresting the killer

What happens to the protectors when they successfully protected someone? Of course they don't get the identity I guess.
But will they get the penalty? Like Ran will get injured?


@sherry:
Poison
- Roles with that action: Sherry
- Night action, Crime, can be covered
- Can try to poison one player during the night.
- Her APTX won't be used up
- Can still poison during the day like the other BOs

So, every night she can try to poison someone without penalty?! D:

(also, you put that poison info in between stealing and items that can be stolen :V)


Cross-examine
- Roles with that action: Eri
- Night action, can be covered
- The player can choose to cross-exame one player, to find out whether they have committed any crimes so far.
- She'll get the result "true" or "false".
- Blamed actions count as a crime.
- Can be discombobulated. Then the Player won't get any results but a "failed action" as a PM

I think it's not clear enough :V
Like, can you ask "did xyz slander someone?" or "Did xyz do a crime, whatever crime it is?".
Also, does a crime that was done on the same phase count or not?


@Kazuha:
I'd say Kazuha can just use the charm once on herself. Otherwise people will spam it on oneself and try to be the center of the town.


Also I think it's not cleared in the rules, what would happen if Voice of Reason is used and a protector protects the one that's going to be lynched.
I'd say the protection wouldn't happen (so no penalty for the protector) XD So VoR > protection


Pinch Face
- Role with that action: Nakamori
- Night/Day action, can be covered
- Every phase, Nakamori can check a player for a disguise
- If the player is not in disguise, the action will return a false
- If they are, then they are stripped of their disguise and their action for that phase will fail
- Kid and Vermouth will then be assigned a new disguise at random

What information will nakamori get? WIll there be a post in the thread? Will he know the disguise that was used? Will he know what identity the player has? (guess no)


@Akai:
Will you make his vengeance similar to revenge?
Meaning he can injure someone/his killer when killed?

[Dus]

If edited my posts to reflect your input. Akai will be handled the same as last round, i.e. the one he votes for will be killed.

[Yurikochan]

I'm in. ^^ 

[pofa]

Schillok! I love you for that chart.

Prof!
Everybody be nice to the new people. Dus.

And I want to join too.

[Eve]

I'll join! Maybe


But I have questions *get's killed by the GM*

Pisco, Mafia Eraser
Night action: Erase, Bribe
Interrogation: BO
Scent: Yes
Disguise: No
Items: Gun, Car-keys, Alcohol
Observe: Adult

what does: Night action: Erase, Bribe mean?
Can you use both actions on the same night? Can you just use one of them?

It's better for Pisco to just be able to use one of them , seeing as Bribe means he can kill anyone without any hindrance

@sonoko:
- Sonoko can then use all the abilities of her friends, unless they are Kid or Vermouth, in which case she won't be able to use Kill or steal.

What about yukiko? Will sonoko be able to use the costumes? Will she be able to use the abilities of the disguises when yukiko is disguised?

Also, what happens when her friend dies. Will she still have the ability?
(also, maybe that's kinda powerful :V)

I agree, if she gets all the abilities, then if her friend is Yukiko then double disguise every night? Double characters? V:, and she gets to know the identity of her friend's killer too?.... Maybe you should have her being "injured" if her friends died then

@bribe:
Bribe
- Roles with that action: Pisco
- Night action, Crime, can't be covered
- Once per game, the player can give the GM a suitcase full of cash.
- The BO's kill that night can't be hindered in any way, not even by arresting the killer

What happens to the protectors when they successfully protected someone? Of course they don't get the identity I guess.
But will they get the penalty? Like Ran will get injured?

Injuring might make sense

@sherry:
Poison
- Roles with that action: Sherry
- Night action, Crime, can be covered
- Can try to poison one player during the night.
- Her APTX won't be used up
- Can still poison during the day like the other BOs

So, every night she can try to poison someone without penalty?! D:

(also, you put that poison info in between stealing and items that can be stolen :V)

Maybe he meant poisoning with knowing the Player's role, if not I don't know. though if Sherry can poison at night, she can poison Player 1 is Role 3, if she's right, s/he dies, if not, Sherry will maybe lose this ability for the next two phases?

Cross-examine
- Roles with that action: Eri
- Night action, can be covered
- The player can choose to cross-exame one player, to find out whether they have committed any crimes so far.
- She'll get the result "true" or "false".
- Blamed actions count as a crime.
- Can be discombobulated. Then the Player won't get any results but a "failed action" as a PM

I think it's not clear enough :V
Like, can you ask "did xyz slander someone?" or "Did xyz do a crime, whatever crime it is?".
Also, does a crime that was done on the same phase count or not?

^ Same questions

@Kazuha:
I'd say Kazuha can just use the charm once on herself. Otherwise people will spam it on oneself and try to be the center of the town.

Yes, Kazuha can just be "Yo! I'm kazuha! Everyone prove my role! Then stay alive forever "

Also I think it's not cleared in the rules, what would happen if Voice of Reason is used and a protector protects the one that's going to be lynched.
I'd say the protection wouldn't happen (so no penalty for the protector) XD So VoR > protection

Pinch Face
- Role with that action: Nakamori
- Night/Day action, can be covered
- Every phase, Nakamori can check a player for a disguise
- If the player is not in disguise, the action will return a false
- If they are, then they are stripped of their disguise and their action for that phase will fail
- Kid and Vermouth will then be assigned a new disguise at random

What information will nakamori get? WIll there be a post in the thread? Will he know the disguise that was used? Will he know what identity the player has? (guess no)


@Akai:
Will you make his vengeance similar to revenge?
Meaning he can injure someone/his killer when killed?

^ Same question, plus, I see nothing wrong with Akai being able to to lynch someone else with him , if he's good, he'll definitely help town

[Akonyl]

I'ma join!

[Kleene Onigiri]

@akai:

I actually meant to improve him.
So if lynched, he can lynch someone with him

+

if killed at night, he injures his attacker (like snipers injure the police officers)

He won't injure anyone when APTXed tho.

[Edogawa4869]

*signs up*

[Dus]

@Pisco: His two abilities work independently, so he can both bribe me and erase someone.

@Sonoko: If her friend is Yukiko then she will be disguised when Yukiko is disguised. Or maybe she'll have access to the same costumes, not too sure yet.

@Sherry: It works like APTX, but there's no penalty if she gets the role wrong.

@Eri: She can only learn whether or not crimes have been committed, not which crimes.

@Nakamori: He will learn the disguise.

@Kazuha: She can't use it on herself anymore.

[Kleene Onigiri]

@Pisco: His two abilities work independently, so he can both bribe me and erase someone.

@Sonoko: If her friend is Yukiko then she will be disguised when Yukiko is disguised. Or maybe she'll have access to the same costumes, not too sure yet.

@Sherry: It works like APTX, but there's no penalty if she gets the role wrong.

@Eri: She can only learn whether or not crimes have been committed, not which crimes.

@Nakamori: He will learn the disguise.

@Kazuha: She can't use it on herself anymore.

@Pisco+other roles: Lazy bum The abilities are listened separately then. Abilities which you can use just one at a phase have a OR in between. Doesn't look to be necessary that you put the abilities seperately. But even NOW people still ask if you can use both abilities at the same phase...

@sonoko: And if the friend dies? What then?
Also, can she use all abilities? Or just 1? Like cover, there you can also just choose one ability when the ally has more than 1.
Can sonoko arrest?

@eri: yeah, that's what you said in the discussion thread. But needs to be written down XD (otherwise you'll get mass of question-PMs)

@nakamori: k XD

@kazuha: didn't stand there. And why? D: T_T

[Eve]

@ Pisco..... Well, seeing at he'll only being able to kill one person for sure... It's not that bad, But I think we're also asking if someone was protected, and Pisco killed them will the protector be injured also?

@ sonoko, I think we need to rethink on Sonoko more, b/c she suddenly became a role's double" that won't die or injured when her friends died, and also get to know the attacker's identity? ...

@Sherry So She's like BO's identifier, except at night?, and if she gets it right, that person dies?, too powerful, maybe you should limit her Dunno

@ Eri gets to learn if you have commited any crime, so you're saying
Eri "Player 1 committed any crime so far?" GM "Yes"
Then that'll includes ALL crimes? Not just crimes in that one phase?

@ nakamori Only He wil learn the disguise right I guess that's alright.... b/c the ability is quite powerful... so hindering him from announcing and being poisoned would be okay

@ kazuha Oh, I guess that'll work... somehow I can't think but something is bugging me , Did you put this clause in?

@ Akai .... Ohhh, makes sense..... I kinda agree with Kleene

[Dus]

You're starting to annoy me and you know what that means.

@Sonoko: If the friend dies, she can't use their abilities any longer. She already learns who killed them, that should be enough. She can use all the abilities, but giving her the power to arrest might be a bit too much.

@Kazuha: I just remembered that I'll have to make Charm a Night/Day action now. X_X That makes her a far more powerful role already.

[Eve]

You're starting to annoy me and you know what that means.

You're gonna make me Bo/Town lover? *runs*

[Dus]

It was directed at Kleene, you RMed me.