Mafia Round 16 - Yarrharr~ (BO wins!)

[Eve]

I wonder how so many townies managed to get themselves killed by APTX so quickly...

PT was BO, and people trust her A LOT

Still, seeing it from my side, 8 BO were just too many. Many of the previous rounds showed this already, so why Kleene decided for such a high number in a game where the BO just got a major boost for many of their roles (and after a game which was won by BO as well) seems a bit odd for me.

LOVERS can answer your question, there are 24 players, 1/3 are townies

We didn't stand much of a chance. I mean, it is nice for the BO to be able to blend in better and find roles easier, and slander more people and so on, but at the same time their number of starting member had to be lowered as well.

Again, not really, there were Yusaku, and Heji, two interrogators that can easily expose Bo, but that comes to the "I don't have time to turn in my action"....

Especially since if townies have no time to play the game their votes are just lost. For BO their character will  just be controlled by their teammates.

But it's the players' choice if they want to play or not, I mean if you sign up knowing you don't have time to play...then why do it?

And well, we finally had another BO-town pair. I wonder how they got exposed, but I imagine Eisuke to be very useful when trying to stop the BOs actions. Trying to reason with the BO is a bad idea as we can see.

xpon was Yumi, and he went with the "forum pairings"

I admit I wasn't very active this game. But being Kir there was not much I could do. Maybe I should be grateful that I was not the target of an interrogation.

I don't know, Kir has lots of cool abilities that would be awesome and attractive to lots of alliance ...

And I should have listened to that feeling that Akonyl was BO, like I suspected. But at that point it was already too late to make another lynching mistake based on a feeling.

XD lol

[PT]

BO-Town pair got exposed because Edo can't lie very well.

Conia -> told me on Night 2 that he was a protector, and wanted an alliance. We used Gin to investigate him protecting me, proved he was a protector, and poisoned him based on believing that breva was Kogoro.

breva -> was probably the one we were most worried about not being right, because we kept going back and forth on whether to even try for the poisoning, just in case we didn't lynch her. We weren't positive she was Kogoro, but we thought she was, so...

Commi -> told me she had a "fun" role. pofa staked me out on Night 1 and we found out I was tricked. On a hunch, we had Parkur special investigate (on N2) whether she tricked me on Night 1, and Edo stole per panties that same night, proving her as Asami. Plus later she told me that she was Asami, but we already had the info we needed by then, so it wasn't entirely her fault.

Yuriko -> told me she was a DB on Night 1, and Abs. later proved that with his will. (Though I had more or less proven it anyway, based on what Yuriko had told me.)

Edo -> obviously we knew his role. We poisoned him over Kain because we weren't 100% sure of her role, and because he was a traitor.

Shin -> We stole from her three nights in a row, and she told Sherlock her role.

PT was BO, and people trust her A LOT

[Eve]

PT was BO, and people trust her A LOT

Sorry, sorry,
I meant to say:
PT Is and has always been Town ^_^

[Kleene Onigiri]

I wonder how so many townies managed to get themselves killed by APTX so quickly...

Still, seeing it from my side, 8 BO were just too many. Many of the previous rounds showed this already, so why Kleene decided for such a high number in a game where the BO just got a major boost for many of their roles (and after a game which was won by BO as well) seems a bit odd for me.
We didn't stand much of a chance. I mean, it is nice for the BO to be able to blend in better and find roles easier, and slander more people and so on, but at the same time their number of starting member had to be lowered as well.

Especially since if townies have no time to play the game their votes are just lost. For BO their character will  just be controlled by their teammates.

And well, we finally had another BO-town pair. I wonder how they got exposed, but I imagine Eisuke to be very useful when trying to stop the BOs actions. Trying to reason with the BO is a bad idea as we can see.


I admit I wasn't very active this game. But being Kir there was not much I could do. Maybe I should be grateful that I was not the target of an interrogation.
And I should have listened to that feeling that Akonyl was BO, like I suspected. But at that point it was already too late to make another lynching mistake based on a feeling.

I disagree. There was a BO/town pair. Which is against the town and BO, so the BO was actually just 7man strong.
The town was quite balanced too. Interrogators, investigators, observe, even house search and identify.
Like I said, the town had bad luck and used it on the target that was killed. Or some didn't use their actions at all or did it completly randomly. As a town, you need to be careful and not blindly tell your role and trust someone blindly. But also, you can't simply just be passive and be in no contact at all.

The BO managed to gather information quickly, since almost everyone of them was in contact with someone. So, even with just 7 people(with 1 lover), I think the BO would have done good enough. Tho maybe not have won so fast.
Also, you guys didn't believe breva, tho breva didn't explain herself good enough after she already hinted to the BO that she did a Day action, which pointed towards Kogoro.
And the BO found out quite a lot of stuff and took the risk of APTXing. At the same time, a lot of good interrogations were around. So I couldn't make obvious hints for either side.

[Dus]

Yuriko -> told me she was a DB on Night 1, and Abs. later proved that with his will. (Though I had more or less proven it anyway, based on what Yuriko had told me.)

Edo -> obviously we knew his role. We poisoned him over Kain because we weren't 100% sure of her role, and because he was a traitor.

@Yuriko: She told me as well.
@Edo: We were sure of Kain's role, we knes she tricked Akonyl and that commi was Asami. So we chose Edo just because.

BTW: I would have killed Kain on Night 2 but my anniki weren't sure whether I had sent in my kill and Sherlock "confirmed" it. Getting rid of Kid wasn't really bad either tho.

[Eve]

Conclusion:
BO was lucky, Town was not, Lovers not lying good enough XD lol

[Dus]

Conclusion:
BO was lucky, Town was not, Lovers not lying good enough XD lol

Lucky? Nah, people just trusted us way too much.

[pofa]

Yuriko -> told me she was a DB on Night 1, and Abs. later proved that with his will. (Though I had more or less proven it anyway, based on what Yuriko had told me.)

Edo -> obviously we knew his role. We poisoned him over Kain because we weren't 100% sure of her role, and because he was a traitor.

@Yuriko: She told me as well.
@Edo: We were sure of Kain's role, we knes she tricked Akonyl and that commi was Asami. So we chose Edo just because.

BTW: I would have killed Kain on Night 2 but my anniki weren't sure whether I had sent in my kill and Sherlock "confirmed" it. Getting rid of Kid wasn't really bad either tho.

Yuriko told me too. Or at least strongly hinted. *hugs Yuriko* Bad luck on choice of contacts.

[Eve]

Conclusion:
BO was lucky, Town was not, Lovers not lying good enough XD lol

Lucky? Nah, people just trusted us way too much.

I wonder why *cough*PT*cough* it seemed I only see BO actually discussing and deducting... overall Besides Abs. who was killed soon after

[Dus]

Conclusion:
BO was lucky, Town was not, Lovers not lying good enough XD lol

Lucky? Nah, people just trusted us way too much.

I wonder why *cough*PT*cough* it seemed I only see BO actually discussing and deducting... overall Besides Abs. who was killed soon after

Townies are probably crying themselves to sleep.
And I was surprised virtually no-one voted for pofa on day 2. That wasn't all that intelligent. I even tried to get you lot to prove breva instead.

[PT]

BTW: I would have killed Kain on Night 2 but my anniki weren't sure whether I had sent in my kill and Sherlock "confirmed" it. Getting rid of Kid wasn't really bad either tho.

Actually, getting rid of Kid was better, imo, since we got rid of Camel at the same time. That brought the observers down to 1, and it didn't look like Jodie was very active, since Yuriko was still talking about being prove a couple of phases after everyone knew she was a DB. CTU probably would've observed her right away.

Anyway, I felt bad for Yuriko. When I was talking to her before xpon died, she told me she was in contact with her partner (who I later found out was Abs., and I know what it's like working with Mr. Paranoid. ), xpon, Dus, pofa and I. XD I'm pretty sure I said something along the lines of "Unfortunate choice of allies." to the BO.

[Dus]

BTW: I would have killed Kain on Night 2 but my anniki weren't sure whether I had sent in my kill and Sherlock "confirmed" it. Getting rid of Kid wasn't really bad either tho.

Actually, getting rid of Kid was better, imo, since we got rid of Camel at the same time. That brought the observers down to 1, and it didn't look like Jodie was very active, since Yuriko was still talking about being prove a couple of phases after everyone knew she was a DB. CTU probably would've observed her right away.

Anyway, I felt bad for Yuriko. When I was talking to her before xpon died, she told me she was in contact with her partner (who I later found out was Abs., and I know what it's like working with Mr. Paranoid. ), xpon, Dus, pofa and I. XD I'm pretty sure I said something along the lines of "Unfortunate choice of allies." to the BO.

You did. XD

[Vylash]

BTW: I would have killed Kain on Night 2 but my anniki weren't sure whether I had sent in my kill and Sherlock "confirmed" it. Getting rid of Kid wasn't really bad either tho.

Actually, getting rid of Kid was better, imo, since we got rid of Camel at the same time. That brought the observers down to 1, and it didn't look like Jodie was very active, since Yuriko was still talking about being prove a couple of phases after everyone knew she was a DB. CTU probably would've observed her right away.

Anyway, I felt bad for Yuriko. When I was talking to her before xpon died, she told me she was in contact with her partner (who I later found out was Abs., and I know what it's like working with Mr. Paranoid. ), xpon, Dus, pofa and I. XD I'm pretty sure I said something along the lines of "Unfortunate choice of allies." to the BO.

You did. XD

^

[pofa]

And I was surprised virtually no-one voted for pofa on day 2.

Except YOU, Dus. And Edo.

Yeah, I was astounded at that, too, though maybe my stall with the DBs helped my case. (Though this is the second round I've pulled that, so I doubt I'll ever be trusted by them now. )

[PT]

Yeah, I was astounded at that, too, though maybe my stall with the DBs helped my case. (Though this is the second round I've pulled that, so I doubt I'll ever be trusted by them now. )

For the record: when I was a DB and you pulled that, I knew you were BO before we ever identified you.