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PhoenixTears wrote: I'm not sure what Abs. meant about no self-respecting BO lynching pofa, since pofa was still suspicious, despite it looking like breva would be getting lynched.
pofa may have still had enough votes (over breva) to be lynched.  The tide had changed over to breva some time into the Day, and some players may have already voted pofa and not been able to change their vote before the end of the phase.  If BO voted for pofa, they may not have known whether it was the one vote needed to put pofa's votes on top.  It would have been quite risky for BO to vote for pofa.

Also, everything PT is saying now makes me think that PT definitely had enough information to poison breva (and is perhaps playing dumb about that fact).
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What about the italicizes names? ???
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Edogawa4869 wrote: What about the italicizes names? ???
Guess you couldn't tell from what I posted above:  I consider the italicized players more suspicious than the rest.  

However they are all under suspicion.  I mean, come on.  This is me we're talking about.  :P
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Abs. wrote:
Edogawa4869 wrote: What about the italicizes names? ???
Guess you couldn't tell from what I posted above:  I consider the italicized players more suspicious than the rest. 

However they are all under suspicion.  I mean, come on.  This is me we're talking about.  :P
Which is exactly why I'm surprised your name isn't on the list as well, for whatever random reason you can come up with. :P
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I dunno what to tell you, Abs. All I knew of breva was what I posted. Of course, there's very little I can do to prove that, so believe what you will. I think just about the only thing I could do at this point to prove I didn't know about breva would be give my role to the DBs to check - but considering breva did that too, and she's now dead? Yeah, not seeming like such a good idea at this point.

You didn't vote at all, Abs. Could it be that you didn't want to be the one vote that may have "turned the tide" and pushed the lynching toward pofa because you two are BO together? And you also could have abstained from voting for breva because you knew it would look suspicious.

All I'm seeing here is that you're suspicious of me because I said I was in contact with breva, was suspicious of her, and voted for her.

And if you're just being incredibly paranoid about this whole thing: ::)
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Meh, I figured I was about as convinced that breva was BO as I was convinced pofa was BO, so decided not to vote for either of them.  I entertained the idea of voting for Detective Tommy again  >:D but decided not to...  Okay the real reason was time ran out as I was trying to decide who to vote for  ::)

Anyhow, I was convinced we had a fake DB on our hands when breva turned out poisoned, but your post made me think that perhaps there was some other way...  You see, I was not aware that breva had even been in contact with anyone (well, besides Dus)...  She refused my request for a PM after all so I assumed she just wasn't talking.

However it is apparent from her will that she had talked (and so Dus goes back on my suspicion list, sorry about missing it earlier, Holmesie  :-*):
Kleene Onigiri wrote: breva was clenching onto a piece of paper, but with that acid, some parts of it is missing:

night 1:
interrogate: pofa=not BO. Dus  knew about that interrogation, he investigated it.

day 1:
vote: Edogawa (randomly)
Analyze results: pofa=BO, meaning pofa was slan..... .. ..... . ... .us is suspic.... of bei.. BO.

night 2:
I was told Akonyl could be BO and an interrogator would be useful on that case, that mak.. ....... susp...... to me.
Dus wants to prove himself by guessing my interrogation target, I gave him 3 names. I expected Akonyl to be slandered so I chose another target instead
interrogate: Detective Tommy=BO no.... kn.. about it b.. could be slandered.

day 2:
I'm lynching pofa, it's possible she is Chia.../.... so I will become injured after lynching her, I decided to continue the communication with ... even if he is my ..... .......
A .. contacted me and I told her .. role, I know I have nothing to lose now and  hope Yuriko is not faking a role again
Analize results from last night: I will never know
Looks like breva suspects Dus of being BO - in fact it looks like he is her prime suspect

She doesn't mention PT at all, but she does mention Yuriko in connection with "telling her my role" - so one can surmise that either Yurikochan is the DB (sorry if this is correct, but it's pretty plain as day) or perhaps we can surmise that PT is the DB and Yurikochan is the one who proved her (a bit of a stretch if you ask me).

Has anyone proved Yurikochan?  Because upon this further examination of breva's will, we add Dus and Yurikochan to the list of likely suspects.
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Abs. wrote: Meh, I figured I was about as convinced that breva was BO as I was convinced pofa was BO, so decided not to vote for either of them.  I entertained the idea of voting for Detective Tommy again  >:D but decided not to...  Okay the real reason was time ran out as I was trying to decide who to vote for  ::)

Anyhow, I was convinced we had a fake DB on our hands when breva turned out poisoned, but your post made me think that perhaps there was some other way...  You see, I was not aware that breva had even been in contact with anyone (well, besides Dus)...  She refused my request for a PM after all so I assumed she just wasn't talking.

However it is apparent from her will that she had talked (and so Dus goes back on my suspicion list, sorry about missing it earlier, Holmesie  :-*):
Kleene Onigiri wrote: breva was clenching onto a piece of paper, but with that acid, some parts of it is missing:

night 1:
interrogate: pofa=not BO. Dus  knew about that interrogation, he investigated it.

day 1:
vote: Edogawa (randomly)
Analyze results: pofa=BO, meaning pofa was slan..... .. ..... . ... .us is suspic.... of bei.. BO.

night 2:
I was told Akonyl could be BO and an interrogator would be useful on that case, that mak.. ....... susp...... to me.
Dus wants to prove himself by guessing my interrogation target, I gave him 3 names. I expected Akonyl to be slandered so I chose another target instead
interrogate: Detective Tommy=BO no.... kn.. about it b.. could be slandered.

day 2:
I'm lynching pofa, it's possible she is Chia.../.... so I will become injured after lynching her, I decided to continue the communication with ... even if he is my ..... .......
A .. contacted me and I told her .. role, I know I have nothing to lose now and  hope Yuriko is not faking a role again
Analize results from last night: I will never know
Looks like breva suspects Dus of being BO - in fact it looks like he is her prime suspect

She doesn't mention PT at all, but she does mention Yuriko in connection with "telling her my role" - so one can surmise that either Yurikochan is the DB (sorry if this is correct, but it's pretty plain as day) or perhaps we can surmise that PT is the DB and Yurikochan is the one who proved her (a bit of a stretch if you ask me).

Has anyone proved Yurikochan?  Because upon this further examination of breva's will, we add Dus and Yurikochan to the list of likely suspects.
I haven't been proved, but looking for a way to be. Been for quite awhile. But she only told me minutes before the phase change she was Kogoro.

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Ok, I seem not to be as suspicious as I thought I would be, so my paranoia might have been unbased, still, I'll tell you everything that has happened between me and breva, so that you can make up your mind.
Anyway, there is no doubt whatsoever that pofa is BO.
Kogoro's analysis cannot be slandered or anything and I guess no-one should distrust breva at this point. ;)
ALL townies have to vote for her tomorrow, since the numbers are pretty close and the BO might be able to poison one or two people.
We cannot allow them to outvote us because we have to prime suspects for being BO (as has happened in round 15).

As you might remember, I had arrived a bit late, so breva was the only I managed to contact before night 1 ended who actually could be investigated. She offered me her interrogation for investigation. I was a bit surprised that she told me that, to be honest (but it makes sense if she's Kogoro) and warned her not to let anyone else know and I didn't tell anyone else either, of course.
My guess is that pofa is Gin and slandered herself, but it's fair to assume for youse that I am BO or even Gin I suppose. :-\
After night 2 had ended, breva told me that pofa is definitely BO and that I have to trust her on this. I was a bit confused, but I thought to make up such an inbelievable story wouldn't make sense for a BO.

Then I read the thread and saw that she had posted that "she found pofa out on day 1", which caused me a great deal of panic, since I instantly knew that she was Kogoro and was afraid that the BO would probably be able to figure it out as well.

I contacted her about that, saying that I think that was a mistake and that she should be very careful if she didn't want to get APTXed. She told me she wasn't Kogoro but had re-interrogated pofa after coming to suspect that she was Korn and got a different result this time.

While this eased my mind about her getting potentially APTXed, this also meant that there was just a 50/50 chance pofa was actually BO and it also meant that breva seemed to believe I was BO and had pofa slandered. As you might have noticed, I then tried to convince people to vote for pofa, but to little avail. As you probably all know, the DBs had her identified, discouraging people to vote for her. This takes me to my next point:

The "DBs". Who have they actually identified? They tried for xpon on day 1, and, surprisingly enough, he was lynched. ::) On day 2, they "identify" pofa. Has anyone heard about their results? Because I haven't. And there is another thing VERY suspicous about the person that's claiming a DB:

I got breva in contact with them (they might have been in contact before, though, since breva didn't trust me, obviously) so she could get identified and we could actually get pofa lynched. I told them the whole story why I think that breva is right about pofa being BO, mentioning that I had initially thought her to be Kogoro. They told me that was indeed the role she was claiming. So, why would they tell me her role? I'm not exactly trustworthy atm!

In conclusion, I AM willing to do as much as I can to prove I'm actually town by day 4, but I WON'T give the DBs my role for identification. And I advise everyone to be wary of them as well.
I also have a few well-founded suspicions about other people. They are going in my will NOW, so I'm basically challenging the BO to erase me. In fact, I think I even know about a crime someone  can be arrested for, and I'm almost positive I'll know for sure by tomorrow. (Megure could do it tonight, I suppose)
So if you are police, or know a police, please get in contact with me.
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Dus,

First off it was minutes before the phase change we talked and you told me her role. And for some reason yes I trusted you because you pretty much relayed the same information and knew she was Kogoro yourself. "At this point I still wasn't sure who I honestly trusted." (Plus I had the biggest headache in the world from the change in weather and everything else. I admit to making mistakes. :-\ Gomen nesai for being human. :P

If you must know, Pofa's results came out to be not the claimed role.
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Yurikochan wrote: Dus,

First off it was minutes before the phase change we talked and you told me her role. And for some reason yes I trusted you because you pretty much relayed the same information and knew she was Kogoro yourself. "At this point I still wasn't sure who I honestly trusted." (Plus I had the biggest headache in the world from the change in weather and everything else. I admit to making mistakes. :-\ Gomen nesai for being human. :P

If you must know, Pofa's results came out to be not the claimed role.
Does this honestly surprise anyone? :-\
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Edogawa4869 wrote:
Yurikochan wrote: Dus,

First off it was minutes before the phase change we talked and you told me her role. And for some reason yes I trusted you because you pretty much relayed the same information and knew she was Kogoro yourself. "At this point I still wasn't sure who I honestly trusted." (Plus I had the biggest headache in the world from the change in weather and everything else. I admit to making mistakes. :-\ Gomen nesai for being human. :P

If you must know, Pofa's results came out to be not the claimed role.
Does this honestly surprise anyone? :-\
no, but Dus said I never stated it so there it is.
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First: I'm not a DB. And I never claimed to be.

Second: even if you're that suspicious that I'm BO, wouldn't it make more sense at this point to go after the ones you know probably are? (pofa definitely, Dus likely)

The way I see it is this: we started off with 24 players (meaning probably 7-8 BO). We're down to 19, and no dead BO.

If there are 7 BO, there are 12 living townies.
If there are 8 BO, there are 11 living townies.

At this point, the town can't really afford another mis-lynch, so during the nights check into the ones that are somewhat suspicious, and only lynch the ones we know for sure are BO during the day. And if they poison any of us, we're probably gonna lose just like that.

On that note: DON'T TELL YOUR ROLES TO ANYONE. AT ALL. NOT EVEN SOMEONE CLAIMING TO BE A DB. THE BO DOESN'T NEED VERY MANY POISONINGS TO WIN AT THIS POINT.

But that's just me trying to save the town... ::) I'm pretty much expecting to die soon (surprised I've lived this long, actually), since the BO will either kill me for catching on to them or use me as a scapegoat during the next lynching.
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Yurikochan wrote: Dus,

First off it was minutes before the phase change we talked and you told me her role. And for some reason yes I trusted you because you pretty much relayed the same information and knew she was Kogoro yourself. "At this point I still wasn't sure who I honestly trusted." (Plus I had the biggest headache in the world from the change in weather and everything else. I admit to making mistakes. :-\ Gomen nesai for being human. :P

If you must know, Pofa's results came out to be not the claimed role.
I'm not saying you are BO. But I'm not trusting you enought to tell you my role anymore, I'm sorry.
I'll have to check, but I'm fairly sure you know about her role before I started to have with my internet (from her, not from me). So what I'm saying is: It's very well possible you are responsible for the poisoning. :-\
And it doesn't matter when you told me someone else's role, you told me, I didn't even ask for it. And you say you trusted me but at the same time you're voting for me? ???

Anyway, there's another person has suspicious, according to breva's will:
Detective Tommy, who got a BO result.
She definitely didn't tell me about that interrogation and I doubt anyone else knew, so I don't think there's much reason to suspect slandering.
Still, we'll have to lynch pofa first.
But we should use the time till day 4 to confirm these 3:
Yuriko, DT, and yours truly.

@PT: True, the numbers are way too close to chance on a lynching. And we'll probably need arrest if we still want to win this one. :-\
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@PT

I'm just pointing out those who we should keep an eye on, in case I die tonight.  Unless you don't want me to say anything at all  :-*

Anyone who doesn't lynch pofa during the day is obviously not paying attention to the game...
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Well, I guess it might be a good idea to get myself confirmed quickly as well.

I am not sure who to contact, so anyone who can help me - please contact me. This includes DB.
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