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Akonyl wrote:
Eve wrote: Meaning if there's an inactive player who didn't flee, s/he is most likely BO? ::)
though, TBH, if they're not playing, they shouldn't be allowed to sign up, :P, even if that means BO have fewer people (that's a good thing BTW), or the game has fewer people. I mean let's face it, They know how to play, but signing up and not playing is not "knowing how to play" now, is it?
I still don't get what your rationale is in saying that fewer BO = better. An extra hand to lynch and one less person you don't need to kill is just advantageous, because it's not necessarily the case that one's death will cause the rest to die unless they get involved in each other's lies.
Eve wrote: "Arrest was made due to angering the GM? XD lol"
We need to think of a cool "charge" or "crime" for that arrest then :P
"Beastly was arrested for invoking the anger of God!"
I guess what I meant was it is easier to lie when they're so many townies compare to BOs going around and lying to each other :P, imagine a game with 28 players and two BOs XD the chance townies will interrogate or investigate the right BO is very slim, while in the first night, one BO can kill and the other can simply slip one lie from one townie to another, one at the time, and soon townies will cause chaos among themselves. But that's my own theory not a plan XD

LOL...but why would "God" imprison, instead of just vaporizing that poor, poor soul XD
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Eve wrote: LOL...but why would "God" imprison, instead of just vaporizing that poor, poor soul XD
Because "God" has a crazy/deranged/not-at-all funny sense of humor. :P
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Eve wrote: LOL...but why would "God" imprison, instead of just vaporizing that poor, poor soul XD
Because "God" has a crazy/deranged/not-at-all funny sense of humor. :P
XD you must know "God" well ;D
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Eve wrote:
Akonyl wrote:
Eve wrote: Meaning if there's an inactive player who didn't flee, s/he is most likely BO? ::)
though, TBH, if they're not playing, they shouldn't be allowed to sign up, :P, even if that means BO have fewer people (that's a good thing BTW), or the game has fewer people. I mean let's face it, They know how to play, but signing up and not playing is not "knowing how to play" now, is it?
I still don't get what your rationale is in saying that fewer BO = better. An extra hand to lynch and one less person you don't need to kill is just advantageous, because it's not necessarily the case that one's death will cause the rest to die unless they get involved in each other's lies.
only if the townies go around lying to each other massively would that really matter :P

also, if there's just 2 BO rather than say, 9, they would have to go for an extra 4ish day+night phases against a town that would have even more interrogators, police, protectors etc, so while it might take onger until the first one dies, they'll have a higher chance to lose anyway.
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First, Akonyl failed at quoting ::) XD lol

Second - it's not like Town don't lie to each other :P
Third - But what are the chances those massive number of interrogators/police would determine the right BO among 28 players? XD, and again, it was just something I've worked up in my mind :P don't dwell on that thought XD I'm still working on it :P
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I think their might be something wrong with the excel file

town % - 133.3%
Winning % -133.3%
weighted ratio - 8.41

someone mid telling me how that is possible, and why the one here is so differant?
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Eve wrote: First, Akonyl failed at quoting ::) XD lol

Second - it's not like Town don't lie to each other :P
Third - But what are the chances those massive number of interrogators/police would determine the right BO among 28 players? XD, and again, it was just something I've worked up in my mind :P don't dwell on that thought XD I'm still working on it :P
1. He does that from time to time. :P
2. Town does lie to each other. But surely someone would notice the massive amount of lies...
3. Just because there's not a very good chance of it happening doesn't mean it wouldn't happen. Awhile back I said something along the lines of "Anything that can happen in Mafia, will happen, with the worst possible results for all involved parties" and for the most part, that seems to have stayed pretty true.
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PhoenixTears wrote:
Eve wrote: First, Akonyl failed at quoting ::) XD lol

Second - it's not like Town don't lie to each other :P
Third - But what are the chances those massive number of interrogators/police would determine the right BO among 28 players? XD, and again, it was just something I've worked up in my mind :P don't dwell on that thought XD I'm still working on it :P
1. He does that from time to time. :P
2. Town does lie to each other. But surely someone would notice the massive amount of lies...
3. Just because there's not a very good chance of it happening doesn't mean it wouldn't happen. Awhile back I said something along the lines of "Anything that can happen in Mafia, will happen, with the worst possible results for all involved parties" and for the most part, that seems to have stayed pretty true.
1) I used to be such a good quoter too, I dunno what happened D:
2) They do lie, but not huge lies that would get them caught in "you contradicted yourself, you're BO!" type deals, usually.
3) Not as high as if 9 BO existed, yeah, but that's only on a per-night basis. With 2 BOs, you'd have to survive for longer and thus you'd have longer to get pointed out. Also, you've failed to point out how identifying (for example), an inactive Beastly BO and lynching him would be worse off than just starting off with the other BOs sans Inactive-BO-member, as long as there's nothing connecting him to the BO.
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PhoenixTears wrote:
Eve wrote: First, Akonyl failed at quoting ::) XD lol

Second - it's not like Town don't lie to each other :P
Third - But what are the chances those massive number of interrogators/police would determine the right BO among 28 players? XD, and again, it was just something I've worked up in my mind :P don't dwell on that thought XD I'm still working on it :P
1. He does that from time to time. :P
2. Town does lie to each other. But surely someone would notice the massive amount of lies...
3. Just because there's not a very good chance of it happening doesn't mean it wouldn't happen. Awhile back I said something along the lines of "Anything that can happen in Mafia, will happen, with the worst possible results for all involved parties" and for the most part, that seems to have stayed pretty true.
1. ::) That old man :P
2. Yes, hence, BO only has to deliver those lies, instead of trying to lie themselves :P, townie will surely figure out each other's lies XD 
3. I understand what can happen WILL happen, but would that "lucky" person believe that he was that lucky? XD + What Akonyl is saying :P
But Again: It's a theoretical scenario that I would go over in my head for the fun of it, don't dwell on it too much, unless we have to put it in practice :P
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Eve wrote:
Kleene Onigiri wrote: Well, in case those 2 want to sign up, I'll ask them if they really have time and can :V

And in case someone get's inactive (since others could too because of getting busy suddenly), I thought about arresting them instead of making them flee.

For once, in case they pop up again, they could be freed by Eri. And if they got to know something, they can still share the info. And you wouldn't know if it was a BO or a town either.
"Arrest was made due to angering the GM? XD lol"
We need to think of a cool "charge" or "crime" for that arrest then :P
Like Ako-chan said, ignoring the GM is a crime :x
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The beauty of my plan was that if they go inactive, I'll get credit for having played the round instead of them.  :P
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Abs. wrote: The beauty of my plan was that if they go inactive, I'll get credit for having played the round instead of them.  :P
The same can be accomplished by you playing the round, and Kleene not letting them play. :P
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Maybe Kleene can come up with a role whose sole purpose is to brutally murder those who go inactive - brutal enough that they won't get credit for having played the round, win or lose!  :D
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.....I'm thinking you would be a good fit for that role. :P
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Or we could just have the GM give Seb the list of inactive people after each round, and they don't get credit for playing on the table. :P
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