Bourbon's Identity: Who is Bourbon!?

[shinichi55]

this is jst a thought but couldnt koumei be bourben.. he kinda fits the description of bourbon as being smart .

ps koumei is the detective in the red wall case

I thought about that possibility when the red wall case came out. If Koumei shows up again soon, it would be pretty suspicious. Koumei could also be a red herring; Gosho may be introducing a bunch of new characters to try to slip Bourbon in among them.

but he doesn't really seems like a bad guy... does he? 

[mam]

this is jst a thought but couldnt koumei be bourben.. he kinda fits the description of bourbon as being smart .

ps koumei is the detective in the red wall case

Yes, Koumei is undoubtedly suspicious.
But for the identity of Bourbon, still only guess. Now we have a mysterious Okiya, an amnesia??? Shuichi Akai, an undercover Bourbon, and a strange and smart detective Koumei.

Aahh, this topic is getting so interesting and fun!

To add my own tiny little opinion, I actually think that it's very probable that Okiya could be Yuusaku.
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I share the same thought with ruthc93 and some previous comments, that Yuusaku is Okiya and Bourbon as well.

Someone asked how could yusaku be bourbon when he was conan's (shinichi) dad. Well, he could join the B.O later, after Shinichi becoming Conan, to help him. When was the last time we met Yusaku? Long ago. Yukiko appears occasionally, and Aoyama-sensei makes us think that Yusaku is always busy or hiding somewhere just for his novel. I say, he might join the B.O to secretly investigate along with Shinichi. He has the connection after all, and creating a false profile for him to join the B.O is not difficult. And my guess is, Shinichi has also learnt about it after the big contact episode 345, don't ask me why, just guessing.

Yusaku being Okiya explains why he's good in deduction, and why Conan easily trusted him, let him stay at his house, sent him msg asking for help (the latest case, the Blue Spark of Hate). Yusaku being Bourbon also explains Haibara's reaction to the dark vibes of BO members.
As to why in the paper plane show down Shinichi asked Ran not to tell anything about him to Okiya? Perhaps it's just another trick to purposely confuse reader by Aoyama-sense again. Shinichi simply doesn't want Ran randomly pours her feelings for him to his dad, LOL Yes, I know, their family is bizarrely funny.

Anw, I believe Gosho always surprises us, so let wait

[cyberviper]

mam u got really good points there . uv completelys convinced me that yuusaku is okiya it really makes alot of sense. but i wouldnt be surprised if the whole thing is turned upside down

[mam]

Now we have a mysterious Okiya, an amnesia??? Shuichi Akai, an undercover Bourbon, and a strange and smart detective Koumei.

who's that amnesia?

What exactly is your question?
Didn't you see three question marks after the word "amnesia"?, I want to question the truth of that Shuichi Akai in file 677 - 679, whether he is the real Akai, and he's got amnesia or not? No one knows the answer at this point. 

Yusaku being Bourbon also explains Haibara's reaction to the dark vibes of BO members.

why is that?

Sorry, do you really don't get the idea here? Haibara always feels insecure, and reacts to the presence of BO members around her. She feels the same way whenever Okiya appears. So even if Okiya is a fake BO member, at least he's till got the dark vibe, though we can't exclude the possibility that someone else is there, like the case of Dr Araide-Vermouth and Jodie-sensei.

And remember all the things here are merely theoretical. There is no solid evidence to prove them true, yes, I mean solid!!! So until the truth is revealed, have fun in puzzling game.

[Hydok]

but Yusaku was never a BO member!

Prove it 

[Celeste]

if he was a BO member who would already have a some info about the organization that would be useful to conan plan, but  we didn't see anything about that.


and i didn't eliminate the possibility, i'm just saying that it won't explains haibara reaction.

IF Yusaku was in the BO as Bourbon then it wouldn't be easy to contact his own son. I mean Conan appears quite often in the newspapers and people should already be kind of suspicious. That's why it would only worsen the situation if he would try to give Conan some information about the BO. They don't go easy on members. After all they even daily placed a locating device on Rena when she was still some sort of rookie there.
But dunno, I'd rather think that Yusaku was only Okiya and not Bourbon. It would explain why Conan gave Okiya the keys to 'his' house without even doubting him. Ai was really worried after all. And his explanation that he gave her was kinda lame.

[mam]

Celeste, yes, it makes more sense if Yusaku was only Okiya and not Bourbon. So far, the theory that Okiya was Bourbon only comes from Haibara's reaction, also, if Yusaku was Bourbon and living in the house of Kudo Shinichi, it's deadly dangerous. I do not completely eliminate the possibility but I reconsider it. Tks

[rushx5]

I also think Yusaku us Okiya. I believe in the episode that first introduced Yusaku and Shinichi's mom (With Agasa in a Robot) Yusaku said he had connections with the FBI (or CIA I can't remember). Now with the FBI here in Japan fighting the BO it's likely that Yusaku will lend a hand in this conflict.

[ks4869]

I also think Yusaku us Okiya. I believe in the episode that first introduced Yusaku and Shinichi's mom (With Agasa in a Robot) Yusaku said he had connections with the FBI (or CIA I can't remember).

If I remember correctly it was interpol. I have thought of this theory that Yusaku might be involved with the BO in some way but I just don't know ... this is a possibility though.

But I have a new theory about Okiya and Bourbon's identity (I think no one have posted this yet but not sure). Maybe Okiya is the friend of Eisuke's father who was taken care of Eisuke and was a CIA member (in vol 57, file 587, Eisuke said he was living with one of his father's friend) . And when Eisuke went in America, the friend of Eisuke's father (Okiya) infiltrated the BO as Bourbon.

[kxjenn]

Yusaku always let Shinichi solve his own cases even though Yusaku knew exactly what was going on...
so it's very possible that he used to be a BO member o_o & he wants Shinichi to figure things out by himself ?

but as a father, I doubt he'd put Shinichi in so much danger !

My hopes are that Okiya = Akai, but I think Okiya is Bourbon..
because the storyline has to move SOMEWHERE ,
& if Okiya ends up being Akai, the storyline goes nowhere pretty much .

[Chekhov MacGuffin]

I was doing some rereading and I ran into this chapter page where Kogoro mentions bourbon among other alcoholic beverages he drank. Foreshadowing? Maybe.

Spoiler:

[ShinRan36]

I was doing some rereading and I ran into this chapter page where Kogoro mentions bourbon among other alcoholic beverages he drank. Foreshadowing? Maybe.

Spoiler:

lol there are people who think that kogoro is the boss of the organisation xD And they could say "here!This chapter is the proof"

[AICHAN]

I was doing some rereading and I ran into this chapter page where Kogoro mentions bourbon among other alcoholic beverages he drank. Foreshadowing? Maybe.

Spoiler:

lol there are people who think that kogoro is the boss of the organisation xD And they could say "here!This chapter is the proof"

loooooool!i totally forgot this chapter!!!but if kogoro was the boss,haibara would "feel the pressure of bo members"!(i still think that it could be yusaku,since ai never met him in person,not like shinichi's mother,who knows )but some people think it's agasa the boss!there's a lot of speculation ,but nothing is sure!maybe there will be something about the boss in file 700 i hope!

[ShinRan36]

I was doing some rereading and I ran into this chapter page where Kogoro mentions bourbon among other alcoholic beverages he drank. Foreshadowing? Maybe.

Spoiler:

lol there are people who think that kogoro is the boss of the organisation xD And they could say "here!This chapter is the proof"

loooooool!i totally forgot this chapter!!!but if kogoro was the boss,haibara would "feel the pressure of bo members"!(i still think that it could be yusaku,since ai never met him in person,not like shinichi's mother,who knows )but some people think it's agasa the boss!there's a lot of speculation ,but nothing is sure!maybe there will be something about the boss in file 700 i hope!

I also hope so, but if Ai is always right with her feelings, than Okiya has to be Bourbon, right? But I also have speculations.
Professor Agasa? Yeah also in germany they think so. And not to forget : Gosho said Haibara will surprised by the identity of the Boss.
Why should she be surprised by Yusaku?

[AICHAN]

I was doing some rereading and I ran into this chapter page where Kogoro mentions bourbon among other alcoholic beverages he drank. Foreshadowing? Maybe.

Spoiler:

lol there are people who think that kogoro is the boss of the organisation xD And they could say "here!This chapter is the proof"

loooooool!i totally forgot this chapter!!!but if kogoro was the boss,haibara would "feel the pressure of bo members"!(i still think that it could be yusaku,since ai never met him in person,not like shinichi's mother,who knows )but some people think it's agasa the boss!there's a lot of speculation ,but nothing is sure!maybe there will be something about the boss in file 700 i hope!

I also hope so, but if Ai is always right with her feelings, than Okiya has to be Bourbon, right? But I also have speculations.
Professor Agasa? Yeah also in germany they think so. And not to forget : Gosho said Haibara will surprised by the identity of the Boss.
Why should she be surprised by Yusaku?

she should be surprised by yusaku since he's a detective and the father of the guy she trust the more,so he should be a good man!lol! i know this is just speculations, i don't do it seriously!we haven't got enough informations to suspect someone seriously