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[Edogawa4869]

It looks like Kir is ready.  Judgement time (PS: No BO knowledge):

* Kir, Undercover Agent
Prep. Action: Contact
Night Action: Eagle Eye
Interrogation: "BO"
Scent: No
Disguise:  No
Items: Gun, Panties, Car Keys, Headgear, Alcohol

*Contact
Role with this Action: Kir/Hidemi
- In the Prep Phase, Kir selects 8 players.  If one player is FBI, Shinichi/Conan, or Eisuke, Kir makes contact with ONLY one of them (chosen at random).
- Both Kir and the Contact know the other's identity.
- If Vermouth is disguised as any of the characters listed, she MAY be Contacted.
Example: Kir (Detective Tommy), Akai (PhoenixTears), Jodie (Edogawa), Shinichi (xpon), Pisco (pofa), Gin (Abs.), Vermouth disguised as Camel (Rohoph), James Black (Khinkkun), & Sonoko (Akonyl)
Detective Tommy Contacts PhoenixTears, Edogawa, xpon, pofa, Abs., Rohoph, Eve, and Akonyl
Result: Detective Tommy randomly Contacts PhoenixTears, Edogawa, xpon, Rohoph, or Khinkkun.

*Eagle Eye
Role with that action: Kir/Hidemi
-Whenever a sniping takes place, Kir recieves a note telling her the identity of the character who sniped the victim.

[Detective Tommy]

It looks like Kir is ready.  Judgement time (PS: No BO knowledge):

* Kir, Undercover Agent
Prep. Action: Contact
Death Action: SOS
Interrogation: "BO"
Scent: No
Disguise:  No
Items: Gun, Panties, Car Keys, Headgear, Alcohol

*Contact
Role with this Action: Kir/Hidemi
- In the Prep Phase, Kir selects 8 players.  If one player is FBI, Shinichi/Conan, or Eisuke, Kir makes contact with ONLY one of them (chosen at random).
- Both Kir and the Contact know the other's identity.
Example: Kir (Detective Tommy), Akai (PhoenixTears), Jodie (Edogawa), Shinichi (xpon), Pisco (pofa), & Sonoko (Akonyl)
Detective Tommy Contacts PhoenixTears, Edogawa, xpon, pofa, and Akonyl
Result: Detective Tommy randomly Contacts either PhoenixTears or Edogawa

*Eagle Eye
Role with that action: Kir/Hidemi
-Whenever a sniping takes place, Kir recieves a note telling her the identity of the character who sniped the victim.

Why is SOS listed and not Eagle Eye?
Is SOS still one of her abilities?

So she has Prep Action, Night Action and Death Action?

So far, she looks completed.
Good job!

[Edogawa4869]

It looks like Kir is ready.  Judgement time (PS: No BO knowledge):

* Kir, Undercover Agent
Prep. Action: Contact
Night Action: Eagle Eye
Interrogation: "BO"
Scent: No
Disguise:  No
Items: Gun, Panties, Car Keys, Headgear, Alcohol

*Contact
Role with this Action: Kir/Hidemi
- In the Prep Phase, Kir selects 8 players.  If one player is FBI, Shinichi/Conan, or Eisuke, Kir makes contact with ONLY one of them (chosen at random).
- Both Kir and the Contact know the other's identity.
Example: Kir (Detective Tommy), Akai (PhoenixTears), Jodie (Edogawa), Shinichi (xpon), Pisco (pofa), & Sonoko (Akonyl)
Detective Tommy Contacts PhoenixTears, Edogawa, xpon, pofa, and Akonyl
Result: Detective Tommy randomly Contacts either PhoenixTears or Edogawa

*Eagle Eye
Role with that action: Kir/Hidemi
-Whenever a sniping takes place, Kir recieves a note telling her the identity of the character who sniped the victim.

Why is SOS listed and not Eagle Eye?
Is SOS still one of her abilities?

So she has Prep Action, Night Action and Death Action?

So far, she looks completed.
Good job!

Oh, whoops!  That was just a typo.  Fixing now.

Edit: Fixed.

[Detective Tommy]

Okay, I think her role is pretty good and completed.
I hope I get to try her role soon

[Edogawa4869]

Hey people, sorry to bring this up one more time, but I just realized one tiny flaw in Contact: what if Vermouth disguised as any of the characters?  Would she have a chance to be the contact or no?

[Akonyl]

don't see why not. Sonoko can befriend Vermouth (and only gets to know the disguise), and Contact's pretty much the same thing.

But maybe Contact could be made better than befriending in that sense because kir has the whole BO thing attached, and it's a more limited scope of people.

[Edogawa4869]

don't see why not. Sonoko can befriend Vermouth (and only gets to know the disguise), and Contact's pretty much the same thing.

But maybe Contact could be made better than befriending in that sense because kir has the whole BO thing attached, and it's a more limited scope of people.

So you say that Vermouth can.  Ok, let's add that into the description of Contact, then.

Edit: Done.

[Detective Tommy]

don't see why not. Sonoko can befriend Vermouth (and only gets to know the disguise), and Contact's pretty much the same thing.

But maybe Contact could be made better than befriending in that sense because kir has the whole BO thing attached, and it's a more limited scope of people.

How will it be made better?

[Akonyl]

don't see why not. Sonoko can befriend Vermouth (and only gets to know the disguise), and Contact's pretty much the same thing.

But maybe Contact could be made better than befriending in that sense because kir has the whole BO thing attached, and it's a more limited scope of people.

How will it be made better?

if it was imporrible for kir to befriend vermouth, it would be a slight advantage over sonoko because kir would know for a fact that her friend wasn't just disguised.

[Abs.]

don't see why not. Sonoko can befriend Vermouth (and only gets to know the disguise), and Contact's pretty much the same thing.

But maybe Contact could be made better than befriending in that sense because kir has the whole BO thing attached, and it's a more limited scope of people.

How will it be made better?

if it was imporrible for kir to befriend vermouth, it would be a slight advantage over sonoko because kir would know for a fact that her friend wasn't just disguised.

Or at least Vermouth in disguise.  I like it.  Had been trying to figure out some sort of Vermouth/Kir thing for her role to go with the Vermouth "knowing" Kir was a NOC thing in canon.

[Akonyl]

don't see why not. Sonoko can befriend Vermouth (and only gets to know the disguise), and Contact's pretty much the same thing.

But maybe Contact could be made better than befriending in that sense because kir has the whole BO thing attached, and it's a more limited scope of people.

How will it be made better?

if it was imporrible for kir to befriend vermouth, it would be a slight advantage over sonoko because kir would know for a fact that her friend wasn't just disguised.

Or at least Vermouth in disguise.  I like it.  Had been trying to figure out some sort of Vermouth/Kir thing for her role to go with the Vermouth "knowing" Kir was a NOC thing in canon.

well yeah, but I mean generally if Kid befriends someone, he'll tell them he's KID because he doesn't have a reason not to.

[Detective Tommy]

don't see why not. Sonoko can befriend Vermouth (and only gets to know the disguise), and Contact's pretty much the same thing.

But maybe Contact could be made better than befriending in that sense because kir has the whole BO thing attached, and it's a more limited scope of people.

How will it be made better?

if it was imporrible for kir to befriend vermouth, it would be a slight advantage over sonoko because kir would know for a fact that her friend wasn't just disguised.

Or at least Vermouth in disguise.  I like it.  Had been trying to figure out some sort of Vermouth/Kir thing for her role to go with the Vermouth "knowing" Kir was a NOC thing in canon.

well yeah, but I mean generally if Kid befriends someone, he'll tell them he's KID because he doesn't have a reason not to.

Okay, so Kir cannot befriend Vermouth?
Well, Kid might not tell anyone he's Kid to prevent his friend from accidentally leaking info.

[Edogawa4869]

don't see why not. Sonoko can befriend Vermouth (and only gets to know the disguise), and Contact's pretty much the same thing.

But maybe Contact could be made better than befriending in that sense because kir has the whole BO thing attached, and it's a more limited scope of people.

How will it be made better?

if it was imporrible for kir to befriend vermouth, it would be a slight advantage over sonoko because kir would know for a fact that her friend wasn't just disguised.

Or at least Vermouth in disguise.  I like it.  Had been trying to figure out some sort of Vermouth/Kir thing for her role to go with the Vermouth "knowing" Kir was a NOC thing in canon.

well yeah, but I mean generally if Kid befriends someone, he'll tell them he's KID because he doesn't have a reason not to.

Okay, so Kir cannot befriend Vermouth?
Well, Kid might not tell anyone he's Kid to prevent his friend from accidentally leaking info.

I don't know, Akonyl sometimes confuses me with that.

[Akonyl]

don't see why not. Sonoko can befriend Vermouth (and only gets to know the disguise), and Contact's pretty much the same thing.

But maybe Contact could be made better than befriending in that sense because kir has the whole BO thing attached, and it's a more limited scope of people.

How will it be made better?

if it was imporrible for kir to befriend vermouth, it would be a slight advantage over sonoko because kir would know for a fact that her friend wasn't just disguised.

Or at least Vermouth in disguise.  I like it.  Had been trying to figure out some sort of Vermouth/Kir thing for her role to go with the Vermouth "knowing" Kir was a NOC thing in canon.

well yeah, but I mean generally if Kid befriends someone, he'll tell them he's KID because he doesn't have a reason not to.

Okay, so Kir cannot befriend Vermouth?
Well, Kid might not tell anyone he's Kid to prevent his friend from accidentally leaking info.

I don't know, Akonyl sometimes confuses me with that.

I was saying that you could do it either way, but suggested a reason why him not being able to befriend vermouth would make sense.

I'm not telling you what she should be (if I was, I'd be contradicting myself by giving different possibilities), i'm just giving suggestions for you to consider.

[Detective Tommy]

don't see why not. Sonoko can befriend Vermouth (and only gets to know the disguise), and Contact's pretty much the same thing.

But maybe Contact could be made better than befriending in that sense because kir has the whole BO thing attached, and it's a more limited scope of people.

How will it be made better?

if it was imporrible for kir to befriend vermouth, it would be a slight advantage over sonoko because kir would know for a fact that her friend wasn't just disguised.

Or at least Vermouth in disguise.  I like it.  Had been trying to figure out some sort of Vermouth/Kir thing for her role to go with the Vermouth "knowing" Kir was a NOC thing in canon.

well yeah, but I mean generally if Kid befriends someone, he'll tell them he's KID because he doesn't have a reason not to.

Okay, so Kir cannot befriend Vermouth?
Well, Kid might not tell anyone he's Kid to prevent his friend from accidentally leaking info.

I don't know, Akonyl sometimes confuses me with that.

I was saying that you could do it either way, but suggested a reason why him not being able to befriend vermouth would make sense.

I'm not telling you what she should be (if I was, I'd be contradicting myself by giving different possibilities), i'm just giving suggestions for you to consider.

Okay, I think it's fair to say that she cannot contact Vermouth.
So what are the chances of Kir being in the next game?