Mafia! Mafia! Mafia! Character Role Discussions

[Abs.]

Perhaps the failure is the consolation prize itself?

She will know that none of the people on the list are FBI (or whatever the criteria is)

Multiple tries sounds good as well

[Akonyl]

Perhaps the failure is the consolation prize itself?

She will know that none of the people on the list are FBI (or whatever the criteria is)

Multiple tries sounds good as well

maybe if it was fbi/police, but when there's just 4 possible FBI roles in a game where there's more than 30 roles, it's not really interesting information that one of the 4 doesn't happen to be in the list of 5 people.

[Edogawa4869]

Wait,  I thought we were getting rid of Contact in favor of knowledge of BO roles.  I must have missed something after falling asleep...

When I went to sleep, we were left with knowledge of BO roles, SOS, and possible Investigate 1 (that I added after Contact was taken away).  So now, I gather, we may be bringing it back?

Perhaps Contact should be tweaked.  But remember that if it is a success, Kir has two separate townies that will receive unequivocal information from her.  Of course without the investigation it would only consist of PMs on the part of the contact, but still.

In the description I made, Kir only gets one FBI contact using Contact, not two.

[Akonyl]

Wait,  I thought we were getting rid of Contact in favor of knowledge of BO roles.  I must have missed something after falling asleep...

When I went to sleep, we were left with knowledge of BO roles, SOS, and possible Investigate 1 (that I added after Contact was taken away).  So now, I gather, we may be bringing it back?

Perhaps Contact should be tweaked.  But remember that if it is a success, Kir has two separate townies that will receive unequivocal information from her.  Of course without the investigation it would only consist of PMs on the part of the contact, but still.

In the description I made, Kir only gets one FBI contact using Contact, not two.

I think he's referring to the contact + the SOS target.

Also, I'm against seeing any more investigating in the game.

[Edogawa4869]

Wait,  I thought we were getting rid of Contact in favor of knowledge of BO roles.  I must have missed something after falling asleep...

When I went to sleep, we were left with knowledge of BO roles, SOS, and possible Investigate 1 (that I added after Contact was taken away).  So now, I gather, we may be bringing it back?

Perhaps Contact should be tweaked.  But remember that if it is a success, Kir has two separate townies that will receive unequivocal information from her.  Of course without the investigation it would only consist of PMs on the part of the contact, but still.

In the description I made, Kir only gets one FBI contact using Contact, not two.

I think he's referring to the contact + the SOS target.

Also, I'm against seeing any more investigating in the game.

Ok, no Investigating.  So now, from what I gather, Kir has no clue as BO information, Contact, and SOS.  Have I got it now?

[Akonyl]

Wait,  I thought we were getting rid of Contact in favor of knowledge of BO roles.  I must have missed something after falling asleep...

When I went to sleep, we were left with knowledge of BO roles, SOS, and possible Investigate 1 (that I added after Contact was taken away).  So now, I gather, we may be bringing it back?

Perhaps Contact should be tweaked.  But remember that if it is a success, Kir has two separate townies that will receive unequivocal information from her.  Of course without the investigation it would only consist of PMs on the part of the contact, but still.

In the description I made, Kir only gets one FBI contact using Contact, not two.

I think he's referring to the contact + the SOS target.

Also, I'm against seeing any more investigating in the game.

Ok, no Investigating.  So now, from what I gather, Kir has no clue as BO information, Contact, and SOS.  Have I got it now?

that's what it sorta sounds like now, but none of this is set in stone, after all.

[Edogawa4869]

Ok, so this is what her character looks like, with no knowledge of the BO:

* Kir, Undercover Agent
Prep. Action: Contact
Day/Night Action: SOS
Interrogation: "BO"
Scent: No
Disguise:  No
Items: Gun, Panties, Car Keys, Headgear, Alcohol

*Contact
Role with this Action: Kir/Hidemi
- In the Prep Phase, Kir selects 8 players.  If one player is FBI (Camel, Jodie, Akai, or James Black), Kir makes contact with ONLY one of them (chosen at random).
- Both Kir and the Contact know the other's identity.
Example: Kir (Detective Tommy), Akai (PhoenixTears), Jodie (Edogawa), Shinichi (xpon), Pisco (pofa), & Sonoko (Akonyl)
Detective Tommy Contacts PhoenixTears, Edogawa, xpon, pofa, and Akonyl
Result: Detective Tommy randomly Contacts either PhoenixTears or Edogawa

*SOS
Role with that action: Kir/Hidemi
-When Kir is killed, one random Town member is given a note containing a clue to the identity of the killer.
-If Vermouth is disguised as a Town member, she MAY receive the note.
-Sometimes if the Town member deciphers the clue on the first attempt ONLY (by PMing the GM), an Auto-Report will be sent to a random officer.

I do remember you saying earlier that Contact needed tweaking.  How many more people should be chosen?

[Edogawa4869]

I've fixed Contact up a bit.  What do you think?

[xpon]

* Kir, Undercover Agent
Prep. Action: Contact
Day/Night Action: SOS
Interrogation: "BO"
Scent: No
Disguise:  No
Items: Gun, Panties, Car Keys, Headgear, Alcohol


please remove Alcohol. let KIR be like akemi

[Edogawa4869]

* Kir, Undercover Agent
Prep. Action: Contact
Day/Night Action: SOS
Interrogation: "BO"
Scent: No
Disguise:  No
Items: Gun, Panties, Car Keys, Headgear, Alcohol


please remove Alcohol. let KIR be like akemi

Speaking of which, why does Anokata and Akemi not have Alcohol anyway?

[xpon]

so Ai is not the most importance character!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Abs.]

The way I see it, if they have an alcoholic codename, they have alcohol.

Also Shiratori, Yumi, James, Akai, Jodie,  Heiji, Kogoro, Haibara (=Sherry), Okiya.

[Edogawa4869]

Ok, so Kir should have alcohol.  That's what I thought, as well.  Gimme a sec to change it.

Edit: Fixed.

[Detective Tommy]

Leave Kir alone and stop powering her up.  You can't keep trying to make every new character the game-breaking Townie Hero.

I'm confused. If we leave her alone - she'll only have the special rule of knowing which BO/# of BO are in the game.
That was the only thing Akonyl gave her if I recall correctly...

Betrayal/SOS/Contact/Investigation1/Etc were all new ideas.

its Tommy... i just gave idea!!!!!!

It was mostly addressed to Tommy.

I'm trying to balance her too. When I said give her "both knowledge about player/role", It was a joke. That's what the huge grin was.
Also, everything I suggest is an idea. I said you guys can change it...

Anyway, I'm fine with her being what she is suggested as right now, though I think choosing 5 players and requiring the contact to be FBI may be a little low (as in, low chance of finding a FBI in the pool), because it seems like right now all she is is a Sonoko who is interrogated as "BO".

What is she suggested as currently?
Knowing the # of roles and/or Contact and/or SOS?Nvm.

This is true. Perhaps if she doesn't successfully contact anybody, she can get some consolation prize, or perhaps, if she doesn't successfully contact anyone during prep phase, she may continue to attempt contact each night until she succeeds?

Isn't there a possibility that FBI won't even be in the game - making her abilities useless?
Also, why only FBI? I thought we made the list: Conan/Shinichi, FBI, Eisuke and Heiji.



I might have read a few things wrong. I'm extremely tired tonight - long day at work.
Please correct me if I posted wrong info. Thanks,

[Detective Tommy]

Ok, so this is what her character looks like, with no knowledge of the BO:

* Kir, Undercover Agent
Prep. Action: Contact
Day/Night Action: SOS
Interrogation: "BO"
Scent: No
Disguise:  No
Items: Gun, Panties, Car Keys, Headgear, Alcohol

*Contact
Role with this Action: Kir/Hidemi
- In the Prep Phase, Kir selects 8 players.  If one player is FBI (Camel, Jodie, Akai, or James Black), Kir makes contact with ONLY one of them (chosen at random).
- Both Kir and the Contact know the other's identity.
Example: Kir (Detective Tommy), Akai (PhoenixTears), Jodie (Edogawa), Shinichi (xpon), Pisco (pofa), & Sonoko (Akonyl)
Detective Tommy Contacts PhoenixTears, Edogawa, xpon, pofa, and Akonyl
Result: Detective Tommy randomly Contacts either PhoenixTears or Edogawa

*SOS
Role with that action: Kir/Hidemi
-When Kir is killed, one random Town member is given a note containing a clue to the identity of the killer.
-If Vermouth is disguised as a Town member, she MAY receive the note.
-Sometimes if the Town member deciphers the clue on the first attempt ONLY (by PMing the GM), an Auto-Report will be sent to a random officer.

I do remember you saying earlier that Contact needed tweaking.  How many more people should be chosen?

I think one obstacle about Kir's role is - what if there are no FBI in the game? Is that possible?
Other than that - your decisions look good and would be an interesting role.