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Re: Mafia Round 12 - Bear Round! (Night Four)

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Holmes wrote: This is not good.
Right and all they do now is talking off-topic and lettind Ghosts eat some popcorn. :P

I think this huge loss today proves that we´ve got Vermouth disguised as a police officer in this game and too many people trusted this person too much. o.o
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James Rye wrote:
Holmes wrote: This is not good.
Right and all they do now is talking off-topic and lettind Ghosts eat some popcorn. :P

I think this huge loss today proves that we´ve got Vermouth disguised as a police officer in this game and too many people trusted this person too much. o.o
i want popcorn too o.O but i don't want to die D:
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D:

Oh yeah! I still didn't die on a night as a target! ;D And I also got a different role again \o/ Wuzaaa!
But I bet if I wouldn't have been killed too, people would suspect me for this mass APTXing ;p

Abs. wrote: ...Part of My harem!  >:(
Came back to you  :-*
Ctu wrote:
Abs. wrote: ...Part of My harem!  >:(
I want a harem :(
I gave you Khinkhun ;p A female player. Be thankful that I didn't pair you up with xpon or Abs. or another male player ;p
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PhoenixTears wrote:
Ctu wrote:
Abs. wrote: ...Part of My harem!  >:(
I want a harem :(
Join ours?
Abs. wrote: My harem, Our harem...

Potatoes Potahtoes...

<3  :-*
I haven't completely thrown out the idea of taking over, ya know.

:-*
ok I will

PS: I am happy Yumi(Kleene died for making me a lover to a male role who got me killed :(
Ctu APTXed me?! D: Oh shi...

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Kleene Onigiri wrote: Oh yeah! I still didn't die on a night as a target! ;D And I also got a different role again \o/ Wuzaaa!
you should definitely be glad for that. I mean, this is the third time I've gotten Eisuke, what's up with that?
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Callid wrote: OK, I'm going to post a giant wall of text, mostly quotes. Be prepared.
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Kleene Onigiri wrote:
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All the dead towns stay here and have a food fight? Seems fun.
Anyways, I'm off to work in an hour or so, and don't know when I'll be home.
Hopefully early to discuss.

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Actually I would have written all of this in my will, cause I'm convinced I'll die tonight, but than my will would probably get changed by the GM due to "too much information".

Anyway, let the show begin!
*pulls off Chiba mask an appears in white clothes, with a white cloak, a white top hat and a monocle*
Ladies and Gentlemans!
...
Well, where should I start? Hmm, perhaps how I go in contact with PhoenixTears (PT). Basically, my now-abandoned (for falsely suspecting TheBlind) notes listed three people that seemed to be very likely town: PT, Schillok and Kleene. Consequently, I contacted all of them during Night 2.
There hasn't much to be said about this, basically only Schillok, and to a certain degree Kleene answered before I went offline.
In the night, I stole from PT and got glasses.
Due to the Schillok-Affair, we did trust each other much more, and ended up in an alliance. PT wasn't really part of it, though, only an "approacher". A problem arouse when Schillok went offline early on Night 3, and Kleene wanted a sudden change of plans. Basically, we explained our distrust for each other, our trust for Schillok and that we'd carry on with the plan.
A little earlier, we had asked PT for a participation in our plan. However, this would have needed TWO investigate-actions from him:
PhoenixTears wrote:
Callid wrote: OK, you shall now know that I've formed something like an alliance with Kleene and Schillok. My plan is now finished, and when the others agree, I'll tell you as well. This plan is meant to confirm that you do have investigative abilities, and it will require that you spend two investigate-actions on Schillok. Are you still interested to form an alliance?
This puts me in a really tough spot. I am interested in forming the alliance, and I do have quite a bit of useful information I could share with you. The problem is, telling you why I'm in a tough spot would require revealing my role to all of you. And while I have a feeling that the BO has enough clues to figure it out on their own, I'm paranoid about giving out my role after what happened last round. (Kleene: :P Yes, I forgive you. But I don't want to make the same mistake again.)

But Kleene probably already knows this, and I've told Schillok as well: I can have the DBs prove my role during the next day phase.
This mail, in connection with the glasses he had, convinced me of my thought about his role:
PhoenixTears wrote:
Callid wrote: OK, just to inform you, this is a message that doesn't go to Schillok or conia as a BCC. I also won't tell them about this, but I'm pretty sure you're James. You may state that in your will or not, that's up to you. I already suspected that, and your message made that even more clear (actually it's so clear that I'm not happy that you did send it to both of them). If you can confirm that, I have an idea ready how you can prove yourself with just one action.
conia? I'm hoping you meant Kleene, because if you've sent any of our conversations to conia I will have to lynch you. :P

...I hate to do this, but you're absolutely right about my role. Only a few other people know my role: DBs and someone whose role was proven by the DBs yesterday. What's your idea?
PhoenixTears wrote:
Callid wrote: Of course I meant Kleene. *sigh*

I thought about you investigating a past action of mine. So if you can tell me whether I investigated Ctu or Abs on Night 1. One of them is true, the other isn't. So if you can tell me which of them is true and which is false, you are definitely James. In this case, I'll also tell my role to you.
Oh, and if you could tell e who the DBs are, I'd be pleased (don't tell me their actual roles, and also one of them is enough).
Okay, good.

I could do that, possibly. I'll have to notify a couple of people who are supposed to be investigating me tonight about the change (and unfortunately, I don't think one of them is going to have a chance to change it accordingly, but I'll have to talk to that person later and try to prove myself again if I get the chance). Not that I'm complaining about you telling me your role if I happen to investigate correctly, but how can you be sure that I'm not Vermouth disguised as James?

I actually don't know which of the DBs are which role (I didn't ask, it wasn't necessary information), so I couldn't tell you that anyway. I just know who they are. And I'll tell you during the day if we both survive the night and everything turns out alright. If not, I'm 95% sure Kleene knows at least one of them.
Well, this is where we stopped when Night 3 ended. Schillok was dead, our plan to confirm Kleene had failed and our GM confused his actions, which led me to steal a notebook from Xcommando and to get a "false" on "PT investigates Callid". Both of them were wrong; I got a school book, and PT did investigate me. I also got a "false" for "Kleene investigated Schillok", which had been needed for our plan. Kleene immediately claimed she was tricked, and I got really suspicious of her. However, things finally became clear. Also, PT gave me the correct answer:
PhoenixTears wrote: My results show that you investigated Abs. on Night 1.
However, my school book led me to trust Xcommando, which hasn't really changed until now (he was also the reason I noticed that my investigation result had to be wrong, cause he did the same and got "true"). Also, I finally told my disguise to PT:
PhoenixTears wrote:
Callid wrote: BTW, have you talked with anyone about how I wanted you to confirm yourself?

Oh, and because I forgot it before: I'm Chiba.
I have talked to two people about it, but they're two people I trust, because I needed them to know what was going on in case I died. The only other people I've even spoken to were the two who were supposed to investigate me - and that was only to tell them to change their investigation of me to you instead of Kleene.

(...)
After this, I had a LOT of conversation with PT, and we basically created a list which player had which role of our combined knowledge. It's a pity, but I don't think I can show it here. So there's only the censored version:
PhoenixTears wrote:
Callid wrote: Bold = Confirmed
Striked Through = Dead/Arrested
Italics = Claimed
Normal = Figured out
! = probably
!! = likely
!!! = very likely
? = doubtable
?? = unlikely
??? = very unlikely
Red = BO
Blue = Twon


xponChianti
YurikochanDB!!
CtuOkiya
Detective Tommy     XXX!!
PhoenixTearsJames
nomemoryInterrogator!!!
AkonylBO
Kleene OnigiriPolice?
Commi-NinjaXXX?
Beastly[color=blue]Ran
[color=blue]Schillok[color=blue]Satou
Holmes[color=blue]XXX
!!
Abs.[color=blue]Akai
James Rye[color=red]BO

pofaBO
Khinkun[color=blue]Megure
[color=blue]Callid[color=blue]Chiba
Laurell[color=blue]DB
!!
KainTheVampireXXX
xcommandoXXX!!!
conia[color=red]BO
[color=blue]TheBlind[color=blue]Kazuha
Sherlock3[color=red]BO

bluekaitou1412BO


I hope you didn't send that table to anyone besides me.

I suggest to send Kleene something like an ultimatum. She should either tell her concrete role to you or me so we can confirm her. What do you think?
Also, whom should we lynch today?

No, you're the only one I've sent it to.

Kleene probably trusts you more than me, but with you suspecting her, maybe she should send it to me?

I'm leaning toward pofa for lynching, since I suspect she's probably BO, but you have a different person you'd like to lynch instead, let me know. And I'm curious to know if they've used any of their poisons other than the one on Khinkun.
Callid wrote: I agree with the plan to lynch pofa.

I've send you a BCC of my PM to Kleene.

Also, you better shouldn't show this table to someone else, cause if the BO would get it...
Well, let's say we had a lot APTX-deaths, although Xcommando fears that he's APTXed anyway.

And Akonyl is really annoying. He should know when he has lost.
PhoenixTears wrote: Alright, I just need to wait on Yuriko and nomemory and see if they agree.

Yeah, the BO doesn't need more help figuring everyone out. Getting this would give them even more of an advantage than they seem to have already.
I'm not ruling out being APTXed myself, though the only ones that I know for sure know my role are people I trust. But given the items that were stolen from me, if Akemi stole them both (however unlikely that may be, I'm not ruling out the possibility), BO can narrow me down to James or Jodie.

Rohoph didn't really answer the question about Special Investigations, so I'm confronting Akonyl through PM. He has no reason not to tell me who he tricked and when. After all, if he's Eisuke, he's already arrested, I can't kill him. We'll see what he says though. And if it's something I can't prove wrong just through my own information, I'll investigate it tomorrow.
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Callid wrote: OK, you claim you are police, don't you? However you have been discombobulated tonight and therefore couldn't follow the plan, right?
Well, PhoenixTears and me have now agreed that if you can tell us your role, we'll be able to decide if you are BO or not. However, it's the question if you want to tell either of us. If you want, send a PM to either one or both of us. If you want only one of us to learn it, send it to this one and tell him not to tell the other. As we basically trust each other completely, a "She's BO" or "She's no BO" from the other will be enough for us.
If you do not want to send your role, you have to understand that we, of course, have to work with the possibility that you are BO.

Callid

P.S.:
This is in English because PhoenixTears is BCC.


Why do you add her in Bcc? When I write back using quote just you'll get the PM O.o" And I have to add PT then lol.
Anyway. I rather tell the DB my role than one of you. I would like to tell no one my role actually. But if I have to decide between Callid and PT, (and not DB), then I would tell it to Callid rather than PT.

But before I decide completely, I'd like to get a PM from someone else first (DB)
PhoenixTears wrote:
Callid wrote: Are you willing to tell Kleene one of the DBs? And do THEY agree? Or is it better to tell Kleene to tell me?

Kleene has been talking to Yurikochan for awhile now. I'm sure she knows that Yuriko is a DB, but I'll double check with Yuriko.

At this point, I got a PM from PT, touching a very sensitive point I had avoided so far:
PhoenixTears wrote: I meant to tell you this before as well.

Regarding the fish:
nomemory spoke to several people who claimed to have fishes, including me. When we started to trust each other, we talked about what they could possibly mean. Our most likely thought was that the fish meant we were "prey" for the "bears", and that all townies got them.

That was proven wrong when TheBlind was discovered to be Kazuha, since he didn't get one. However, I still think only townies got them.

And then nomemory and I discovered that in the original PMs with our role from Rohoph, we had a 'reaction' to the fish. My reaction, for example, was to automatically suspect it's from the Black Org. And based on nomemory's reaction and her role, plus mine, and Yurikochan's reaction (she said something about the episode where the DBs were looking for a fish or something. I don't remember exactly, would have to go back through my PMs to find it), we decided it's probably based on our specific role. (i.e. - it would be "in character" for James Black to find something suspicious and suspect it has a connection to the Black Org.)

Someone nomemory talked to's reaction, she told me, was that they were "creeped out" by the fish. The only role I can think of that would have that kind of reaction is Kid. It cemented my belief that that person was Kid when nomemory told me that that person automatically accused nomemory of being Kid, just because she also had a fish. Why else would you automatically accuse another person of being Kid, unless you're trying to cover up yourself being Kid?

And then I found out that person was Kleene. So I'm thinking Kleene is probably Kid disguised as a police officer. But we'll see what she says.

Do you have any thoughts on this?
Callid wrote: I can tell you that Kleene is definitely not 1412. I do have proof for that, and that proof is 100% reliable. It's completely impossible that Kleene is 1412.
Callid wrote:
PhoenixTears wrote: Okay, good to know. What is your proof, if you don't mind telling me?

Well, let's just say that I know who's 1412. He's already on our list, as his disguised role. However, to protect himself from APTX, he doesn't want me to tell anyone who he is.
I'll warn you if we were about to lynch him, and my will contains information who he is, but you 'll be the only one who will be able to decipher that information. BTW, do you know modulo?
PhoenixTears wrote: Alright, I figured that might be what it was. So, he's one of the ones that we know the "role" of, and not one of the ones I suspect? Good. Then I won't ask you to further clarify unless something comes up that seems suspicious.

No, I don't know modulo.
PhoenixTears wrote:
Callid wrote: OK.
Modulo is basically the remainder, so
35 mod 35 = 0, cause the remainder of 35/35 is 0.
35 mod 26 = 9, cause the remainder of 35/26 is 9.
And so on:
35 mod 20 = 15
35 mod 17 = 1
35 mod 14 = 7
35 mod 7 = 0
35 mod 2 = 1

Has Kleene already told the DBs her role? And are the DBs going to confirm it?

Alright, cool.

Yes, she has, and yes, they are. Yuriko told me that Kleene told her her role, and asked if she should go ahead and check it. I told her yes, she should, that way we would know we can trust her. I get the feeling she's Yumi, though.
Kleene Onigiri wrote:
Callid wrote: You know, until the DBs confirm you, I'm still careful. It means that everything considering Xcom is as it should be, and basically he's either town (95%) or Vermouth (5%), which I will rule out tonight (to be honest, I didn't notice that officers can test for disguises until you highlighted it. Damned).


I already checked xcom for disguises (night 2) And he's not disguised. But of course you don't believe me now. But you can't investigate on day anyway.
So you'll know after I get checked by the DB, or if I end up dead with APTX, that I'm townie :)

Now we are getting closer to the point I wanted to make:
PhoenixTears wrote:
Callid wrote: Do the DBs know my role, and how much of the table do they know? So, basically, could they tell that Kleene is lying if she said she was XXX/YYY/ZZZ?

Yes, she would know if Kleene claims your role (YYY). Laurell is the one who was in contact with VVV, and he's the one that said she's XXX, but they haven't confirmed it. Either way, if Kleene claimed XXX, Yuriko would know it's suspicious.

I'm apologize for telling your role without your consent but it was necessary to narrow things down.

A throw-in from our contact with Kleene:
Kleene Onigiri wrote:
PhoenixTears wrote:
Callid wrote:
Kleene Onigiri wrote: I'm thinking about the arresting.

If I fail and get suspended, I won't be able to arrest or to investigate anything. And the DB is already proving me, so I don't really have to do an arrest, but can do an arrest.

Do you want me to try to get another BO down? Tho I don't have any clues at all on who could have killed schillok.
What do you think? Should I try? But if it's wrong and I get suspended, I can't investigate the next night anymore D:

Since I said that I'll do an arrest, I don't just want to decide against that now. So I wanna know if you guys prefer that I can investigate for sure the next phase, or if you wanna take a bet on getting another BO arrested.

IMO, you don't need to arrest. If we don't get a mass-APTX-death, we have basically won now.

I was thinking pretty much the same thing. And we might need your investigate ability during the next night so it would be useless to get yourself suspended (cause it's unlikely that we'll get three lucky arrests).


Alright. Guess I won't do it then :D

And back to PT:
PhoenixTears wrote:
Callid wrote:
PhoenixTears wrote: (...)
I'm apologize for telling your role without your consent but it was necessary to narrow things down.

I'm not amused. Ask me, and I'll say it's okay, but ask me beforehand! Also, whom did you tell my role? Both?

No. Just Yurikochan. Originally I was going to have her check you out today, but then we changed it to Kleene.

At this point I made another ally. I won't say who it was, nor his/her role. This ally didn't want me to tell his/her role to PT and therefore the information on his/her role never reached the DBs. This ally is still alive.
Afterward, we had a little chat about Akonyl:
PhoenixTears wrote: He answered me.
Akonyl wrote:
PhoenixTears wrote: If you are, in fact, Eisuke, then who have you tricked and when?
I would say "but amgs you'll arrest me!" but uh, looks like that's already happened.

Night 1 I put some pepper in your eyedrops, sorry about that.
Night 2 was xcom, whom I slapped with a large trout. Why? Not a fan of pre-game alliances. :P


Now, I thought I was tricked Night 1, but it's entirely possible I wasn't, given who I investigated (someone who was out of the country at the time). If I was tricked, then it would still give me the same result as investigating someone who's not in Japan, if I remember correctly. So the only way to be certain is for me to investigate it.

And I know for a fact that Xcomm was tricked on Night 2, but I think pretty much everybody knows that, so he could've lied about that too.

And if all of this is true, he's probably Vodka, since you arrested him for killing.

However, now we get to IMO the most important exchange we had, especially considering yesterday's events:
PhoenixTears wrote:
Callid wrote: Xcom is either Vermouth or town, cause 1412 stole his school book XD
Therefore, if Kleene is town and therefore trustable, he's indeed a Meitantei.

(...)

But right to the point: How did you confirm that Yurikochan is DB? Cause she's the heart of our alliance, and I really want to be sure on her.

Considering your death: You can simply state in your will that everyone should contact me instead of you. That is, if you trust me enough.

Right, exactly the point I was trying to make about Xcomm. ;D

(...)

The only proof I have that Yuriko is a DB is this: she has known my role since basically the beginning of the game (the end of Day 1 if I remember correctly), and she also knows nomemory's role. And neither of us have been poisoned yet. Other than that, there's really no way to prove it.

My will is pretty straightforward, and I did leave a note in it that my 'friends' should help each other out. And the ones that I meant that for have been told by me that they should contact each other. (nomemory and Yuriko to you, and Tommy to nomemory.)
PhoenixTears wrote:
Callid wrote: You... YOU DON'T HAVE ANY PROOF ABOUT YURIKOCHAN!? :o :o :o
And she knows almost all about the alliance!?  :o
OMFG!
Please... please tell me that at least someone has at least already interrogated them!

Until further notice, don't tell Yurikochan anything about what I told you. Nothing. N. O. T. H. I. N. G.
Also, what does she know?

Seriously? You're freaking out about this now?  ::) Not one bit of suspicious information has come up about Yuriko during the entire game. At all. Even last game when I was stupidly in an alliance with Kleene and trusted her, and she ended up poisoning me, I did suspect her quite a bit more than I let on. So yeah, I trust Yuriko completely. But either way, I wasn't planning on telling her anything else anyway.

She has known enough about me since the beginning of the game that if she was BO, I would've been killed already, I can guarantee you that. I've done most of the talking between everybody on our side of the alliance, and she knows that. I'm more of a threat to her than you or nomemory or Tommy or Xcomm or whoever.

Calm down. And nomemory trusts her completely aside from my trust of her. We were both talking to Yuriko at the same time back in the beginning, but neither of us knew that. She told me she trusted Yuriko before I ever told her I did. nomemory is a proven interrogator. If you're really certain that you'd rather have her waste her interrogation on Yuriko, I will tell her to interrogate her during the next night, despite the the fact that we should probably focus on the ones that are really suspicious. But if it'll get you to stop freaking out, we'll play it your way. Just don't treat me like an idiot. It's not appreciated.
PhoenixTears wrote:
Callid wrote: Sorry, I think I got a little bit ... carried away  :P

Ok, you're right, it's unlikely they are BO, although it could be they just wanted to wait until they have practically all of the town. However, I want to see what happens today. We'll stick to our original plan, at least for today.

Also, how was nomemory proven? By Yurikochan, IIRC. So, if Yurikochan is BO (what I still fear, although it's probably only about 20% likely, and if we survive today, 5-10%), there is no reason why nomemory couldn't be BO as well.
Anyway, let them try Kleene today.
Oh, do they know about our thought that [ally I mentioned above] may be [certain role]? If not, please don't tell them. Duh.

I've also contacted our four BO-suspects. Don't worry, I won't reveal anything, I just want to see what roles they claim. Also, I've send an identical PM to all of them, so if I get identical answers, or answers that imply they know it was a standard-message, that's a hint they might be BO.

Also, I'm sorry for screaming at you  :-[

As long as you don't go back to screaming at me, we're cool.

nomemory was proven by Yuriko, yes, but Tommy also investigated her interrogating me last night and it came back true (and for the record, I came back as Not BO). Anyway, if I get the chance to investigate Akonyl, it should clarify everything.

I mentioned it to nomemory that I think [ally] is [role] before I ever got in contact with you. Yuriko doesn't know, as far as I know.

Good to know. Let me know what they say.

Also, if it turns out pofa is BO, Yuriko didn't even put up any sort of disagreement for lynching her,
if that helps you trust her more. She mentioned that she had also been suspicious of pofa. But, of course, we'll have to wait and see what happens today.
PhoenixTears wrote:
Callid wrote: My basic fear is that we are all dead by today. If we all survive today, things look much better anyway.

Oh, and does Yuriko know about 1412 being among the ones on the list?

We definitely need to check on Xcomm ASAP. He PMed me asking who we're lynching today and I told him pofa. He's saying that 1) he's been in contact with pofa and she doesn't seem suspicious; and 2) he doesn't have enough proof to want to lynch her.

Either way, I'm still going with pofa. Too late to change the plan now.

I understand your fear though. I've thought that about myself for the last couple of phases. And no, Yuriko doesn't know that. She was still saying she thinks Kleene is Kid up until Kleene told her her role.
PhoenixTears wrote:
Callid wrote:
pofa wrote: I would probably be considered an "information gatherer."

And that is the most I've given anyone this game about my role, so be careful who you tell if you're town. If you are Vermouth or a friend of hers, careful about killing or APTXing me, because starting now you're in my will as the only person I've given hints about who I am.

Otherwise, I look forward to working with you. ;D

Only person he has given hints!? I don't believe that...

Not to mention "information gatherer" is pretty vague; that includes most roles in the game. I still definitely think she's BO.
Callid wrote: Well, I told him:
I wanted to suggest an alliance.
As you probably know, I'm police. I think that's quite a good basis to work on. I'd be interested in what you are, or at least, which "area" of the town you belong in ("information-gatherer"; "protectors&healers"; "other").

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PhoenixTears wrote: That makes a little more sense then.

And our very last exchange:
Callid wrote: BTW, when you talked with Akonyl, did you make sure he doesn't suspect that you're James? And have you stated that in your will?
PhoenixTears wrote: Yes, I was careful about what I wrote. No, I didn't put it in my will. Honestly, I'm not sure who knows my role anymore. I don't know who stole from me the two nights, and if Kleene is BO, and Yuriko happened to mention something about me (which I don't think she did, but I'm not excluding the possibility), then it's possible all of the BO knows anyway. I know for a fact that you, Yuriko and nomemory know my role. But other than that, I'm not sure?


So, basically, from the above, I believe that Yurikochan is BO, cause every role she knew (cause the DBs wanted to "confirme" it) is dead now. Yet those whose role weren't clear already, like Xcom, are still alive, as are those whose role I didn't tell PT are as well.
Also, I believe that there was a fourth APTX send out supposed to kill "Callid = Chiba". This one did of course not work, cause I am not Chiba, but 1412 (so investigating if I'm disguised as Chiba tonight is pretty stupid: Yes, I am). This is also the only reason the information above isn't lost by now. So, with 5 APTX already spended, I doubt the BO has any more. About Laurell, I'm not sure, especially judging from the messages of Yurikochan (who is still trying to fool me. Duh.):
Yurikochan wrote: I think we have a traitor in our mist...Read Commi's role very closely, I let Kain, the other DB, I think you were told who it was I could be wrong though, I know Haibara is in the game too. I think we should lynch her. I may post this in the thread sometimes tomorrow, and they can decide if the BO may end up killing me if I do. But this is from PT, and I'm not sure if she sent this to you at all. The reason I sent you Tommy's and Xcom's is cause one of them are lying cause I'm not sure if you can have Heiji/Conan/Shinichi in one game, or well Heiji/Shinichi Heiji/Conan, you get what I mean. If that makes any sense. I know nothing about Sherlock, James Rye, or BlueKaito either. I may try to contact them and I may post Phoenix's list in the thread as I did to you. I didn't edit out who you are cause I think you know who you are :P
PhoenixTears wrote: (...)

Wait - the other DB was Laurell, wasn't it? So now it's Kain? Either Yurikochan screwed up here a great deal and revealed two BO, or she simply picks random townies as her partners...

Considering myself:
Some might argue that I'm the traitor. There are a few points that clearly speak against this: I never knew the concrete role of Kleene (as you can see from the messages above) or nomemory, whom I had never contact with.
Some might ask why I reveal my role. That's pretty easy; I don't think I'll survive the night anyway, and if I do, I heavily doubt that the BO still has APTX. Not to mention that, if they have, they have probably figured out my role by themselves - after all, they know that I'm not Chiba.

So, basically, if I survive tonight (and not because I was protected etc., but because someone else died), then I'm going to die from APTX the next day anyway.
If someone has additional questions, please PM me.
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Yurikochan wrote: I think we have a traitor in our mist...Read Commi's role very closely, I let Kain, the other DB, I think you were told who it was I could be wrong though, I know Haibara is in the game too. I think we should lynch her. I may post this in the thread sometimes tomorrow, and they can decide if the BO may end up killing me if I do. But this is from PT, and I'm not sure if she sent this to you at all. The reason I sent you Tommy's and Xcom's is cause one of them are lying cause I'm not sure if you can have Heiji/Conan/Shinichi in one game, or well Heiji/Shinichi Heiji/Conan, you get what I mean. If that makes any sense. I know nothing about Sherlock, James Rye, or BlueKaito either. I may try to contact them and I may post Phoenix's list in the thread as I did to you. I didn't edit out who you are cause I think you know who you are :P
PhoenixTears wrote: (...)
Callid wrote:Wait - the other DB was Laurell, wasn't it? So now it's Kain? Either Yurikochan screwed up here a great deal and revealed two BO, or she simply picks random townies as her partners...

Considering myself:
Some might argue that I'm the traitor. There are a few points that clearly speak against this: I never knew the concrete role of Kleene (as you can see from the messages above) or nomemory, whom I had never contact with.
Some might ask why I reveal my role. That's pretty easy; I don't think I'll survive the night anyway, and if I do, I heavily doubt that the BO still has APTX. Not to mention that, if they have, they have probably figured out my role by themselves - after all, they know that I'm not Chiba.

So, basically, if I survive tonight (and not because I was protected etc., but because someone else died), then I'm going to die from APTX the next day anyway.
If someone has additional questions, please PM me.
I fear that the game will be over tonight. We don't know how many BO there really are. And we have 11 players right now. I'm assuming there is not 6 BO... obviously.But if Yurikochan is BO, I'm going to kill her along with Kleene. To get revenge for infiltrating the town's alliance.

Anyways, I was only in contact with PhoenixTears, and nobody else. She never told me her role, but only that she can investigate.

Also, I even offered all my night actions to her this weekend, because I'm going to New York and might not have internet.
But since she's dead, I'm going to send Rohoph my future night actions/day actions/etc. Because I have no idea where I'll be staying.
Right now, I don't know who is BO and who isn't, but you seem like an assured town. So I'm going to follow you.

I'm going to work now, and leaving for New York tomorrow. Hopefully we can still win this. :-\

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Uhh... wow. At a moment like this I really regret not being in the game anymore. But it is still pretty awesome to witness it as an observer.

No matter if it was made up or not, if Callid made the right conclusions or not... it is epic. Better than a book. Or a crime series in TV. ;D
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I've thought a little bit, and got to the conclusion that it would be best if everyone would send me a PM, claiming their exact role.
One might ask why. Basically, I don't have much time. About 10 hours. I can't confirm every single one of you. Therefore I'm quite happy when I force the BO to take town roles which others may claim as well, cause then I can say for sure that one of those two who have claimed they are Takagi is indeed BO.
I hope you all trust me now and do so, cause the ones who don't PM me will of course be assumed to be BO.
Also, if you are afraid of APTX, there isn't much to be afraid of anymore; the BO has now only 0 or 1 APTX left, so in the worst case they can poison only one of you.
If you don't want to tell me your role despite everything what I've said for whatever reason, PM me anyway. Perhaps we can't find a way to solve the problem.
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Oh, lots of quotes XD
Callid wrote:At this point, I got a PM from PT, touching a very sensitive point I had avoided so far:
Pervert! Oh wait.... you didn't mean it like that D:
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Kleene Onigiri wrote: Oh, lots of quotes XD
Callid wrote:At this point, I got a PM from PT, touching a very sensitive point I had avoided so far:
Pervert! Oh wait.... you didn't mean it like that D:
I lol'd at this, too.
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