Mafia Round 12 - Bear Round! (Day Five...??)

[James Rye]

or the person codenamed "Vermouth", disguising as one of us from the police.

You mean this from Schillok´s will?

Yeah, if Vermouth is a disguised police officer and just arrested someone who would have get lynched next time anyway like Akonly or arrested Eisuke for trckery and just claimed it was for murder or poison then we´re pretty much ****ed cause we don´t know who of the remaining police officers is the disguised one.

[Callid]

Oh shut up, Akonyl.
I arrested you for killing Khinkun, as I told before - as anyone who can investigate could confirm. Actually I'm surprised it worked. And as for myself being Vermouth - it was me who supported Schillok in the first place, do you remember? Also I'm pretty surprised the BO was able to kill Schillok. I had expected all the protectors and healers to be there, cause he was about to become the town leader (thanks to him being "saved" by arresting conia, and everyone trusting him), but obviously I were wrong.

BTW, did you realize that, until now, every murderer besides the one who killed Schillok is either dead or arrested (if xpon did indeed kill Ran, what I do believe)? The police is doing an incredible good job this time.

I need to say that I strongly distrust Kleene, despite what Schillok said. However, I still need to confirm a few points with people who aren't online. I just advise you to be careful with her.

[Kleene Onigiri]

Well, we got two arrested if both were arrested for intimating then one of them is Eisuke for sure. But since it looks like we have no Eri or basically if we have maybe this person is off-game then Eisuke will stay in prison.
But i think he deserves it anyway to be there. XDDD

And man, this update was really late. New record!

We lost a protector, a useless one and two police officers plus Okiya. We lynched a BO and have arrested two persons for i don´t know what crimes. With 23 at beginning we´ve 15 left, pretty good so far i would say.^^

Well, if what was posted in the thread before the arrests is true, conia was arrested for killing Abs. and Akonyl for poisoning Khinkun.  There is the possibility that the arresting officers were lying in the thread and arrested them for something else, I don't know.

Well, obviously Schillok didn't lie ;p

Oh shut up, Akonyl.
I arrested you for killing Khinkun, as I told before - as anyone who can investigate could confirm. Actually I'm surprised it worked. And as for myself being Vermouth - it was me who supported Schillok in the first place, do you remember? Also I'm pretty surprised the BO was able to kill Schillok. I had expected all the protectors and healers to be there, cause he was about to become the town leader (thanks to him being "saved" by arresting conia, and everyone trusting him), but obviously I were wrong.

BTW, did you realize that, until now, every murderer besides the one who killed Schillok is either dead or arrested (if xpon did indeed kill Ran, what I do believe)? The police is doing an incredible good job this time.

I need to say that I strongly distrust Kleene, despite what Schillok said. However, I still need to confirm a few points with people who aren't online. I just advise you to be careful with her.

Although Callid said he'll arrest Akonyl, I wasn't able to prove him or he me, since I was tricked this night and Schillok, who was supposed to prove me, was killed.
So Callids doubt about me isn't just for fun ;p
Since Callid did a successful arrest, I trust him more, but not 100%, since it could still be a trick with vermouth etc.

Still, since I was tricked this night, the interrogator shouldn't have been tricked. Maybe a interrogator found a BO then? And someone should also have gotten a dream too.

So even tho Callid is doubting me, I can still prove myself. But before I reveal anything, I want to wait for more people talking about their results or if they got a dream etc.

[Akonyl]

Oh shut up, Akonyl.
I arrested you for killing Khinkun, as I told before - as anyone who can investigate could confirm. Actually I'm surprised it worked. And as for myself being Vermouth - it was me who supported Schillok in the first place, do you remember? Also I'm pretty surprised the BO was able to kill Schillok. I had expected all the protectors and healers to be there, cause he was about to become the town leader (thanks to him being "saved" by arresting conia, and everyone trusting him), but obviously I were wrong.

BTW, did you realize that, until now, every murderer besides the one who killed Schillok is either dead or arrested (if xpon did indeed kill Ran, what I do believe)? The police is doing an incredible good job this time.

I need to say that I strongly distrust Kleene, despite what Schillok said. However, I still need to confirm a few points with people who aren't online. I just advise you to be careful with her.

first off: no.

second: nobody would be able to investigate that. Sure, they could investigate that you arrested me, but not why. Also, APTX being a day action, and thus uninvestigatable, one questions how you would have the information to arrest me in such a way, considering not even james black can investigate day actions.

[Callid]

second: nobody would be able to investigate that. Sure, they could investigate that you arrested me, but not why. Also, APTX being a day action, and thus uninvestigatable, one questions how you would have the information to arrest me in such a way, considering not even james black can investigate day actions.

I didn't have the information Actually, even the bear send me a PM asking how I got to that conclusion 
I just took the most suspicious BO and the murder where the murderer was most likely to be still around. The reason I did so was to prove that I'm indeed a police officer, not to actually arrest someone (and I thought that was pretty clear), which is why I wrote this and an investigation openly in the thread (I even bolded it), just as I had explained beforehand.
You can imagine my surprise when I found out that I did actually arrest someone...
BTW, James Black CAN investigate day actions. It says "The investigated action could have happened in the past.", not "The investigated action could have happened in a past night.". Nothing in the entry about special investigate suggests that it can only investigate Night actions. So, James could prove that you did poison Khinkun.

Not to mention that it doesn't make much sense to first defend Schillok (town) and then arrest a townie.

[PT]

Well, we got two arrested if both were arrested for intimating then one of them is Eisuke for sure. But since it looks like we have no Eri or basically if we have maybe this person is off-game then Eisuke will stay in prison.
But i think he deserves it anyway to be there. XDDD

And man, this update was really late. New record!

We lost a protector, a useless one and two police officers plus Okiya. We lynched a BO and have arrested two persons for i don´t know what crimes. With 23 at beginning we´ve 15 left, pretty good so far i would say.^^

Well, if what was posted in the thread before the arrests is true, conia was arrested for killing Abs. and Akonyl for poisoning Khinkun.  There is the possibility that the arresting officers were lying in the thread and arrested them for something else, I don't know.

I'm arrested for trickery, I tells ya!

Oh gee, and here I thought Abs. was dead already. Do you just miss him that much, Ako-chan, that you have to go and be like him?

[Akonyl]

BTW, James Black CAN investigate day actions. It says "The investigated action could have happened in the past.", not "The investigated action could have happened in a past night.". Nothing in the entry about special investigate suggests that it can only investigate Night actions. So, James could prove that you did poison Khinkun.

while you're right that it isn't directly specified in the rules, I'm fairly certain the matter's been discussed before and that the conclusion was that james black could only investigate night actions, as those are the only investigatable actions in the first place.

Oh gee, and here I thought Abs. was dead already. Do you just miss him that much, Ako-chan, that you have to go and be like him?

Except this time it's the truth!

[Tanner-kun]

*looks around for missing schoolbook* does anyone else think the bear messed up with the investigations?

[Callid]

*looks around for missing schoolbook* does anyone else think the bear messed up with the investigations?

You could say so. I'm still waiting for him to correct one. Duh.

Oh gee, and here I thought Abs. was dead already. Do you just miss him that much, Ako-chan, that you have to go and be like him?

Except this time it's the truth!

Of course it is. And I'm Gosho disguised as Satou disguised as Anakota.

[PT]

Oh gee, and here I thought Abs. was dead already. Do you just miss him that much, Ako-chan, that you have to go and be like him?

Except this time it's the truth!

Yeah, that's what Abs. said too. And he was Anokata that last time. So far? Not convinced. Murderer.

[KainTheVampire]

*looks around for missing schoolbook* does anyone else think the bear messed up with the investigations?

You could say so. I'm still waiting for him to correct one. Duh.

Oh gee, and here I thought Abs. was dead already. Do you just miss him that much, Ako-chan, that you have to go and be like him?

Except this time it's the truth!

Of course it is. And I'm Gosho disguised as Satou disguised as Anakota.

that was complicated o.O

[Grawwbear]

Due to last night's events, an error may have occurred with several PMs. I just resent PMs to several people in order to make sure all results match up correctly. If the problem continues to persist, PM me immediately.

Also, the current RL problem that caused my late posting of results has developed, and I will most definitely be late again (though hopefully not as late as 11 PM again). At the most I aim to post the current phase's result at 10 PDT. If the RL problem continues to worsen I may permanently make the next phase changes at the same time as well (10 PDT). I apologize for the inconvenience.

(If you don't want to blame me you can always blame Ako-chan)

EDIT:
To save you all the trouble, Special Investigate can be used to investigate actions that occurred during night phases. Otherwise it is just like a normal Investigate #.

[Akonyl]

EDIT:
To save you all the trouble, Special Investigate can be used to investigate actions that occurred during night phases. Otherwise it is just like a normal Investigate #.

we know that it can investigate night, the question is about day phases.

and even if you can investigate day phases, I welcome james black to investigate me poisoning khinkhun on day 1 just so we can see how silly this is.

[Kleene Onigiri]

BTW, James Black CAN investigate day actions. It says "The investigated action could have happened in the past.", not "The investigated action could have happened in a past night.". Nothing in the entry about special investigate suggests that it can only investigate Night actions. So, James could prove that you did poison Khinkun.

while you're right that it isn't directly specified in the rules, I'm fairly certain the matter's been discussed before and that the conclusion was that james black could only investigate night actions, as those are the only investigatable actions in the first place.

* Special Investigate
- Role with that action: James
- Same as Investigate # but can just Investigate one action (same investigation rules apply here)
- The investigated action could have happened in the past. So if James investigates something on Night 3, he can investigate "Akonyl protected conia on Night 1" (needs to give the info on what night it happened. Can be the same night he's investigating too)

"Same as Investigate #" means it has the same rules as investigate #. Meaning it can only investigate night actions and disguise.
So, Special investigate can't investigate day actions. ->

* Investigate #
- Role with that action: Gin, Megure, Satou, Takagi, Shiratori, Chiba, Yumi, Akai, Shinichi, Heiji, Conan
- The player can Investigate a certain number of actions "#". He can only Investigate the actions that are happening in the same night he's Investigating. He may not Investigate actions from previous nights, or Day actions.
- He may investigate if someone is disguised.
- Can be discombobulated. Then the Player won't get any results but a "failed action" as a PM
- If a discombobulated action is investigated, then the action will be shown as "false", because the action wasn't done in the end.
- Healing/First Aid; Investigate/Special Investigate are considered the same actions.
- Black Suitcase actions appear as if they were legitimate actions.
- Example: conia(Vermouth) is disguised as Ran. Akonyl slanders conia. conia kills Ctu. pofa(Araide) heals xpon. Kleene Onigiri (James) investigated Schillok.
Investigate:
"Akonyl Slanders conia" - True
"Akonyl Kills Ctu" - False
"conia is Disguised as Ran" - True, but you don't know if Conia is Vermouth or 1412
"conia is Disguised as Vermouth" - Invalid investigation, since you need to ask for the disguise
"conia Disguised" - Invalid investigation, you need to ask for a disguise
"pofa Heals xpon" - True
"pofa uses First Aid on xpon" - True
"Kleene Onigiri Investigates Schillok" - True
"Kleene Onigiri Special Investigates Schillok" - True
"Kleene Onigiri Fake Investigates Schillokâ€

[Grawwbear]

No one reads the rules anymore it seems.