well if thats honestly all you talked to him about then i don't know either...nomemory wrote: The only thing I've talked to him about is glass animals I fail to see how I was suspicious then, so it should be something other, but what I don't know.
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The problem was, Abs sent me the following PM during that night.NIGHT ONE.
Sent separate private communications to three persons: Kleene Onigiri, TheBlind, Schillok.
Told each I was going to investigate them.
Told each this was going to be stated in my will...*the tape seems to emit a scratching noise here…*
Only one replied in a suspicious, defensive manner. That one was Schillok.
That is all.
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Yes, it was his first and only PM during night 1. I don't know how you would have reacted to such an announcement, but to me it seemed strange. Which was why I was cautionary and defensive about it, trying to figure out what he wanted to achieve by sending this PM.Abs. wrote: I'm investigating you tonight.
And yes, I will write in my will that I sent you this PM.
Cheers!
Yes, I formed an alliance with Abs and another person. And I was the one suggesting it. However, I wouldn't have done so if they hadn't contacted me in the first place during night 1. Though, Abs could still have been Vermouth or Gin (or the other alliance member), so obviously everyone was careful not to give away too much.DAY ONE.
Schillok has reached out to me and another person. It only serves to make me even more suspicious of him.
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Yeah, I made a plan during night 2. Since Abs. made no real objection I thought he was okay with it. Beside, it was just a suggestion, so he could have done something else if he felt like it. Which he did as it seems.NIGHT TWO.
Suspicious of nomemory (what was her name again?), due to possible clue of "boyfriend looks like a girlfriend" - ergo, The Killers - she could be a Town/BO Lover. However no solid evidence yet, and will continue to keep in contact.
Schillok has hatched a plan for our night actions...*scratching noise* ...that would effectively block any possible interrogations by the three of us. Still suspicious.
Xcommando could be BO. No one even attempted to defend xpon, as if xpon had wanted to be lynched in the first place. Going to investigate if Xcommando truly interrogated me tonight, since I have a hunch that's what's really planned to happen (regardless of what I've been told). He could be BO, and therefore already know whether I (and xpon as well, for that matter) am BO or not without interrogating.
So far none of the above should know my role, if I happen to die via... *scratching noise*
Have not told any of the above what I plan to investigate.
Do you have any reason for that? I mean, beside following Abs. will. Because we were never in contact with each other this round by PM.PhoenixTears wrote: Also: I'm suspicious of Schillok as well. Have been for a little bit now.
My thinking of you as suspicious came before Abs.'s will, that just reinforced it.Schillok wrote:Do you have any reason for that? I mean, beside following Abs. will. Because we were never in contact with each other this round by PM.PhoenixTears wrote: Also: I'm suspicious of Schillok as well. Have been for a little bit now.
So... why do you think I am suspicious? Or did you just want to point me out trying to get my lynched?
pofa wrote: I have never done a single thing wrong in mafia, never one lie or act of violence
Both Khinkun and Ctu were already dead at that point. All I wanted to know was who was in contact with them prior to their death, since one among them MUST be BO since that is the only way they would be able to figure out Khinkuns role so fast. That way the town would be able to get a small list of suspects that could be checked during the night - and I am sure, as long as the list was small enough (and there really was a BO among them), we would have found out who the BO is.PhoenixTears wrote: The reason I think you're suspicious is that you were telling people to post their information about Khinkun and Ctu in the thread, rather than keeping it to PM, where at least they're talking just to people they possibly somewhat trust, rather than blindly telling everyone everything.
So basically you were suspicious of me because I wanted to figure out how Khikhun was poisoned? It didn't seem like anyone else was trying to figure it out, this was the only reason why I asked these questions. At least Abs had reasons to be suspicious of me - because I was suspicious of him as well. Though, I didn't know how bad it was until his will.Is there some reason reason I shouldn't find you suspicious? After all, I've had no contact with you whatsoever, I know nothing about your role - you very well could be BO. No, I wasn't throwing your name out there just because I'm trying to get you lynched. I just wanted to point out that Abs. isn't the only one that thinks you're suspicious.
The problem with posting it in the thread versus PMs, is a few people (Xcomm is just one example) tend to give out more information than necessary and in turn give the BO more to work with than they need. (Unless, of course, Xcomm is BO, which is a possibility I haven't ruled out yet. And he wouldn't care what he put in the thread about the town, in that case.) So yeah, I think it's more advisable to keep it to the PMs, so as not to leak out information that shouldn't be leaked.Schillok wrote: Both Khinkun and Ctu were already dead at that point. All I wanted to know was who was in contact with them prior to their death, since one among them MUST be BO since that is the only way they would be able to figure out Khinkuns role so fast. That way the town would be able to get a small list of suspects that could be checked during the night - and I am sure, as long as the list was small enough (and there really was a BO among them), we would have found out who the BO is.
What you suggested is exactly what the BO wants to do: Releasing as little information as possible about the incident (Admit it: It was quite risky. Poisoning during day 1 requires a really quick contact with the BO and yet trusting them enough to tell your role very early.). Even if you tell only the people you trust: If two townies have bits of information that are not enough to identify the culprit, then telling them those who you trust (How many could that be after 1 day and 1 night?) would prevent the town from putting them together in time.
By telling everyone you can also be sure that the town learns about it for sure. Especially if it is information the BO has already anyway: The BO knows already who they sent to be in contact with Khinkhun, so if a townie releases that information it will not help them at all.
It wasn't so much that you wanted to figure out how Khinkun got poisoned - I was curious about that as well - as the way you went about it. Maybe it was just me, but the way your post read was more like you wanted every bit of information that passed between Khinkun/Ctu and whoever they were talking to to be posted in the thread, which would be incredibly dangerous for the townies and way too helpful for the BO. I think that's a very good reason to be suspicious of you.Schillok wrote: So basically you were suspicious of me because I wanted to figure out how Khikhun was poisoned? It didn't seem like anyone else was trying to figure it out, this was the only reason why I asked these questions. At least Abs had reasons to be suspicious of me - because I was suspicious of him as well. Though, I didn't know how bad it was until his will.
pofa wrote: I have never done a single thing wrong in mafia, never one lie or act of violence
What exactly does this mean? Were you tricked?Xcommando wrote: i am sorry i was unable to get any info tonight.
Look at it! A will where I'm not pointed out to be suspicious! Hooray!Akonyl wrote:He just wants to lynch kleene, is that so wrong?TheBlind wrote:Nice try, read it again. He said he's only suspicious of Schillok, nomemory(Vermouth?), and Xcommando.Detective Tommy wrote: Akai dying might have a good side: Nobody can claim his role for having BO scent.
Also, Abs. said he was suspicious of: Kleene, TheBlind and Schillok. He also didn't trust xcommando.
Let's just lynch Kleene so I can avenge last round
Also, I was also wondering why didn't xpon even try to defend himself? I assumed he just gave up.
...dammit what's with people red messaging my replies and saying what I'm about to say D:
anyway, it looks like they're currently suspicious, but I don't look on back-posts to look at things until tomorrow morning.
You are getting too general again. Yes, sensitive information should be PMed - but even then it could be a BO on the other side receiving the information. Even worse, if the BO considers the material dangerous for them they will just kill you and noone will learn what you knew.PhoenixTears wrote: The problem with posting it in the thread versus PMs, is a few people (Xcomm is just one example) tend to give out more information than necessary and in turn give the BO more to work with than they need. (Unless, of course, Xcomm is BO, which is a possibility I haven't ruled out yet. And he wouldn't care what he put in the thread about the town, in that case.) So yeah, I think it's more advisable to keep it to the PMs, so as not to leak out information that shouldn't be leaked.
Only the information relevant and not harmful to the town. I mean, after all it also revealed that Vermouth is in the game - this were the kind of information I wanted: Not harmful to the town, but dangerous to the BO since we know one (more) member of them. This information could have gone lost if people didn't talk about it.It wasn't so much that you wanted to figure out how Khinkun got poisoned - I was curious about that as well - as the way you went about it. Maybe it was just me, but the way your post read was more like you wanted every bit of information that passed between Khinkun/Ctu and whoever they were talking to to be posted in the thread, which would be incredibly dangerous for the townies and way too helpful for the BO. I think that's a very good reason to be suspicious of you.
You and your afking D:KainTheVampire wrote: i have no one since i recently got home
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