Mafia! Mafia! Mafia! Character Role Discussions

[Laurell]

I just thought of this. What if...

Tequila has the Give Order ability. With this, he can ask one townie to do something for the BO(e.g. kill someone) during the Night. He can only use this once. This thing will create confusion among the townies, with the BO not laying a single finger on a victim. However, a hint must be given to the townies IF the ordered townie is arrested or lynched.

P.S. This is based on Tequila's order to Kitamura, the computer programmer, during the Dark Footprint arc. And Kitamura left some clues about his meeting with Tequila.

[Schillok]

I just thought of this. What if...

Tequila has the Give Order ability. With this, he can ask one townie to do something for the BO(e.g. kill someone) during the Night. He can only use this once. This thing will create confusion among the townies, with the BO not laying a single finger on a victim. However, a hint must be given to the townies IF the ordered townie is arrested or lynched.

P.S. This is based on Tequila's order to Kitamura, the computer programmer, during the Dark Footprint arc. And Kitamura left some clues about his meeting with Tequila.

I am not sure what this ability should do...
I mean, beside being strange considering that Tequila would be able to give orders to characters who know he is BO: Can you imagine Tequila ordering Shinichi around? Or Akai? Even forcing a police officer like Megure is strange.

Furthermore there is the question how that ability should work like. I mean, townies can't kill other players. And none of the townies seems likely to kill other players (well, beside FBI maybe. Or police in self-defense. But could you imagine Genta walking around killing someone because a scary big man asked him to do so?)
Beside killing - most other actions would be impossible for most townies anyway. If your Tequila forced Haibara "to interogate Conia", what should the outcome of that order be? Haibara can't interrogate - now should she get that extra-action? And should she get the results as well? Or would Tequila action be wasted (or rather: Used up only to confirm that a certain player is not able to use the specified action.)?


As I said, I am not sure about that idea... either it allows the BO an extra kill as long as Tequila is alive (which sounds pretty strong), or it will do nothing most of the time. As far as I know Tequila was quite useful the games he was in with his current "frighten" ability, so I don't think he is that much in need of an extra power.

[xpon]

Tequila is strong enough..

but what about okiya... he is the weakest now... he can detect but have no way to report his result without putting his neck on the BO mercy by using APTX

[Akonyl]

Tequila is strong enough..

but what about okiya... he is the weakest now... he can detect but have no way to report his result without putting his neck on the BO mercy by using APTX

okiya's fine imo. If you don't think his info-gathering is good enough, use his first aid instead.

[xpon]

no.. imagine you played as him and the aptx is in the round..

how you play????? he can only detect and keep the info to himself... unless he is a best friend or lover (but lover also is a risk)

[Abs.]

Dude practically EVERY ROLE except for the police can't reveal their findings for fear of APTX.  Okiya isn't the only one.

[xpon]

db can..... detective can.... doctor dont need to tell, agasa, protector and also eri dont need to tell..

KID can pretend to be police...

so only sherry and okiya right? and that is a major role.... so ? .....

sonoko to if she tell the killer identity then she will get poisoned afterwards

i think drop box is a good think. better than a "dying will "

[Abs.]

how about we use a drop box.. a postal box.. so if someone want to gave a result as anonim they can put it there... only the truth info only...

How the heck is the B.O. supposed to win with such a drop box in play?

"xpon killed conia last night."
xpon is lynched.

"I tricked Akonyl last night and no murder happened."
Akonyl is lynched.

"Hey guys nomemory has a scent!"
"Yeah I stole panties from nomemory, dunno what this means."
nomemory is lynched.

There would be no debate over, "I bet pofa is lying about what she told me, because she's B.O.!"

[xpon]

how about every player can only use the drop box once/

btw... the drop box idea originaly serve to okiya only....

[Akonyl]

I think the idea of an anonymity box sort of goes against the spirit of mafia, that being the weaving of a web of lies.

[xpon]

yeah right.... but i still dont quite get the stealing....

if ninja (kid) steal something and told that in the tread that some one for ex: ctu have panties... and conia ( police) still alive... did ninja automaticly get arrest?

[Akonyl]

if kid makes himself known in the thread, yeah he gets auto-arrested. Although I guess he could be akemi if he stole something also, but if you're BO you should be arrested anyway, so I'm guessing that'd be an auto-arrest also.

[Conia]

yeah right.... but i still dont quite get the stealing....

if ninja (kid) steal something and told that in the tread that some one for ex: ctu have panties... and conia ( police) still alive... did ninja automaticly get arrest?

No, because he is just claiming that.
An automatic arrest is given by investigations. For example, if you are Akemi, and from investigation, I get that you stole AND killed, then the only possible role you can be is Akemi, which is BO, so you're automatically arrested.

[Akonyl]

yeah right.... but i still dont quite get the stealing....

if ninja (kid) steal something and told that in the tread that some one for ex: ctu have panties... and conia ( police) still alive... did ninja automaticly get arrest?

No, because he is just claiming that.
An automatic arrest is given by investigations. For example, if you are Akemi, and from investigation, I get that you stole AND killed, then the only possible role you can be is Akemi, which is BO, so you're automatically arrested.

I may be wrong, but I was under the impression that the auto-arresting happened by claims i nthe thread (or obvious deductions of who's kid being able to be made in the thread), and not just investigating. As for the investigating auto-arrest, I don't remember hearing anything about that, as it would insinuate that if you ever got a "true" on someone killing someone else, they'd get automatically arrested, regardless of stealing/whatever role they have.

[xpon]

okay... what about this... ex:

comni decide to trust me... and tell that she is not BO and she have stole gun from rye. and akemi is prove not in the game 

and i am satou. so if i want the town to win.. i can trust him but as a police i break the rule for not arresting him right!

so did i must report and get him arrested or what?

i 'll be banned from the next round or not if i break the rules and hide kaito kid