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Re: Mafia - Round 9 (Day 2)

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although Detective Tommy is doing a good job of looking like a prime suspect)
I agree
Detective Tommy wrote:
Abs. wrote:
conia wrote: I told you James Rye told me his role before you, that's why I trust him and I think you are BO.
I still don't know who to believe here (although Detective Tommy is doing a good job of looking like a prime suspect) but you gotta admit, conia, that's a really weak reason to trust someone.
He said he knew James Rye was town without investigating or doing anything?
Why? He has no reason.

UNLESS they are lovers/best friends. But he would know that James Rye isn't James BLack.
Which leads me to know that James Rye and Conia are BO.
Really...until you prove yourself I will just assume both you and James are ORG
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Re: Mafia - Round 9 (Day 2)

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Ctu wrote:
although Detective Tommy is doing a good job of looking like a prime suspect)
I agree
Detective Tommy wrote:
Abs. wrote:
conia wrote: I told you James Rye told me his role before you, that's why I trust him and I think you are BO.
I still don't know who to believe here (although Detective Tommy is doing a good job of looking like a prime suspect) but you gotta admit, conia, that's a really weak reason to trust someone.
He said he knew James Rye was town without investigating or doing anything?
Why? He has no reason.

UNLESS they are lovers/best friends. But he would know that James Rye isn't James BLack.
Which leads me to know that James Rye and Conia are BO.
Really...until you prove yourself I will just assume both you and James are ORG
Okay, tell me how I can prove myself?

And I don't have to prove myself to you, you could be BO yourself.





Actually, I don't care. I'm going to just wait for the next game now.
You guys can lynch whoever. The BO will be happy and you Townies will regret it.


I'm going to stick with my vote of lying James Rye. But do as you all please.

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Re: Mafia - Round 9 (Day 2)

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Ctu wrote: Really...until you prove yourself I will just assume both you and James are ORG
Wait, what!?  Both Detective Tommy and James Rye are B.O. and yet they claimed to be the same town role?  That would be the ultimate fake-out, if true.  The only way I can see that helping them is if it's "sacrifice one to prove the other" - so when one is lynched and revealed to not be James Black, then by default the other one must be James Black?  INSANE.

And where does conia fit in with all of this?  :-\
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Re: Mafia - Round 9 (Day 2)

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Detective Tommy wrote:
Abs. wrote:
conia wrote: I told you James Rye told me his role before you, that's why I trust him and I think you are BO.
I still don't know who to believe here (although Detective Tommy is doing a good job of looking like a prime suspect) but you gotta admit, conia, that's a really weak reason to trust someone.
He said he knew James Rye was town without investigating or doing anything?
Why? He has no reason.

UNLESS they are lovers/best friends. But he would know that James Rye isn't James BLack.
Which leads me to know that James Rye and Conia are BO.
2 people claiming the same role doesn't sound weak to me: One is lying, and more probably is BO. I'm going with Tommy. I don't discard going after James Rye if Tommy really is the role he is claiming, but for now I'm lynching Det.Tommy.
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Re: Mafia - Round 9 (Day 2)

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WAIT.

CONIA, I TOLD YOU THAT I INVESTIGATED: "NIGHT 1: CONIA INVESTIGATED JAMES RYE"

AND YOU ADMITTED THAT YOU DIDN'T INVESTIGATE JAMES RYE.

BUT WHY WOULD YOU ADMIT IT, UNLESS YOU TRULY BELIEVED I WAS JAMES BLACK.

BECAUSE YOU KNEW MY INVESTIGATION WAS TRUE.

MEANING YOU AND JAMES RYE ARE COVERING FOR EACHOTHER.

Think hard about this! He thinks that James Rye = James Black. But when I told that I investigated him and "Conia investigated James Rye Night 1 (False)" He automatically admitted that he didn't investigate him. HE KNOWS THAT JAMES RYE ISN'T JAMES BLACK. Because I am.

How else did I know he truly didn't investigate James Rye? I could've guessed.
But if I was wrong - He would say I lied, and I would look like I was BO...




Vote James Rye, he will be BO and Conia will be too.
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Re: Mafia - Round 9 (Day 2)

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Abs. wrote:
Ctu wrote: Really...until you prove yourself I will just assume both you and James are ORG
Wait, what!?  Both Detective Tommy and James Rye are B.O. and yet they claimed to be the same town role?  That would be the ultimate fake-out, if true.  The only way I can see that helping them is if it's "sacrifice one to prove the other" - so when one is lynched and revealed to not be James Black, then by default the other one must be James Black?  INSANE.

And where does conia fit in with all of this?   :-\
true, but unless somebody can prove something I won't take sides. So it is safer to believe both are ORG instead of thinking neither of them are
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Re: Mafia - Round 9 (Day 2)

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Ctu wrote: true, but unless somebody can prove something I won't take sides. So it is safer to believe both are ORG instead of thinking neither of them are
READ THIS:

WAIT.

CONIA, I TOLD YOU THAT I INVESTIGATED: "NIGHT 1: CONIA INVESTIGATED JAMES RYE"

AND YOU ADMITTED THAT YOU DIDN'T INVESTIGATE JAMES RYE.

BUT WHY WOULD YOU ADMIT IT, UNLESS YOU TRULY BELIEVED I WAS JAMES BLACK.

BECAUSE YOU KNEW MY INVESTIGATION WAS TRUE.

MEANING YOU AND JAMES RYE ARE COVERING FOR EACHOTHER.

Think hard about this! He thinks that James Rye = James Black. But when I told that I investigated him and "Conia investigated James Rye Night 1 (False)" He automatically admitted that he didn't investigate him. HE KNOWS THAT JAMES RYE ISN'T JAMES BLACK. Because I am.

How else did I know he truly didn't investigate James Rye? I could've guessed.
But if I was wrong - He would say I lied, and I would look like I was BO...




Vote James Rye, he will be BO and Conia will be too.

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Re: Mafia - Round 9 (Day 2)

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Detective Tommy wrote:
Ctu wrote: true, but unless somebody can prove something I won't take sides. So it is safer to believe both are ORG instead of thinking neither of them are
READ THIS:

WAIT.

CONIA, I TOLD YOU THAT I INVESTIGATED: "NIGHT 1: CONIA INVESTIGATED JAMES RYE"

AND YOU ADMITTED THAT YOU DIDN'T INVESTIGATE JAMES RYE.

BUT WHY WOULD YOU ADMIT IT, UNLESS YOU TRULY BELIEVED I WAS JAMES BLACK.

BECAUSE YOU KNEW MY INVESTIGATION WAS TRUE.

MEANING YOU AND JAMES RYE ARE COVERING FOR EACHOTHER.

Think hard about this! He thinks that James Rye = James Black. But when I told that I investigated him and "Conia investigated James Rye Night 1 (False)" He automatically admitted that he didn't investigate him. HE KNOWS THAT JAMES RYE ISN'T JAMES BLACK. Because I am.

How else did I know he truly didn't investigate James Rye? I could've guessed.
But if I was wrong - He would say I lied, and I would look like I was BO...




Vote James Rye, he will be BO and Conia will be too.
ok good point
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Re: Mafia - Round 9 (Day 2)

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Detective Tommy wrote:
Ctu wrote: true, but unless somebody can prove something I won't take sides. So it is safer to believe both are ORG instead of thinking neither of them are
READ THIS:

WAIT.

CONIA, I TOLD YOU THAT I INVESTIGATED: "NIGHT 1: CONIA INVESTIGATED JAMES RYE"

AND YOU ADMITTED THAT YOU DIDN'T INVESTIGATE JAMES RYE.

BUT WHY WOULD YOU ADMIT IT, UNLESS YOU TRULY BELIEVED I WAS JAMES BLACK.

BECAUSE YOU KNEW MY INVESTIGATION WAS TRUE.

MEANING YOU AND JAMES RYE ARE COVERING FOR EACHOTHER.

Think hard about this! He thinks that James Rye = James Black. But when I told that I investigated him and "Conia investigated James Rye Night 1 (False)" He automatically admitted that he didn't investigate him. HE KNOWS THAT JAMES RYE ISN'T JAMES BLACK. Because I am.

How else did I know he truly didn't investigate James Rye? I could've guessed.
But if I was wrong - He would say I lied, and I would look like I was BO...




Vote James Rye, he will be BO and Conia will be too.
While I did admit it on the thread on Day 2, you didn't tell me that was your investigation, so I couldn't have admitted it knowing you did that investigation. But what's more is I told pofa before Day 2 (I don't remember if it was on Day 1 or Night 2) that I didn't investigate James Rye. You can check that with her.
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Re: Mafia - Round 9 (Day 2)

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conia wrote: While I did admit it on the thread on Day 2, you didn't tell me that was your investigation, so I couldn't have admitted it knowing you did that investigation. But what's more is I told pofa before Day 2 (I don't remember if it was on Day 1 or Night 2) that I didn't investigate James Rye. You can check that with her.
But Pofa didn't tell me anything.

How else would I know that you (for sure) didn't investigate James Rye.
Cause I'm James

How did I miss such an obvious point.

Also, you're lying. I did tell you that this was my investigation;
Detective Tommy wrote: Dude, you never replied.

Tonight, I'm going to investigate Night1: Conia investigated James Rye.

And Pofa said he will investigate: "Tommy investigated Conia"



So he can prove I'm real...
Did I not PM that to you?

Can we all agree to lynch James Rye.
And Pofa didn't tell me anything about you admitting that. You can ask her.


I think I just proved that I'm James? o_o;
And is anyone else going to back me up and vote James Rye?




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(PS, I think I can post anything as long as it doesn't talk about the GM or his/her comments. So my PM thingy is allowed?)
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Re: Mafia - Round 9 (Day 2)

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I just checked my PMs, conia, and what you said last night (before Day 2) was that "James Rye is innocent and I proved myself to him (not by investigation)." I took that to mean that James Rye didn't trust you because of an investigation, but for some other reason (which matches what you told me later about what happened).

I did not realize that you meant you also had not investigated James in order to trust him. In fact, I asked you about that explicitly at the start of Day 2 after Tommy got his results back, and it wasn't until then that you told me "I didn't investigate James Rye the first night." Since you had said you would investigate me last night, and since you said you'd investigated JR on the thread, I figured that if you were town, that was your ability and that's how you proved his innocence.

I can't find any other places before Day 2 where you said you'd never investigated, otherwise I wouldn't have advised Tommy to investigate that. :P

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conia wrote: While I did admit it on the thread on Day 2, you didn't tell me that was your investigation, so I couldn't have admitted it knowing you did that investigation.
But I did tell you over PM right at the start of Day 2 (before you posted on the thread) what Tommy had investigated. That's why I asked you whether you'd investigated JR--I wanted to see if you'd accuse Tommy of lying.

I wonder about this. I wish JR would come on and give his input...otherwise I'm still in the dark.
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Re: Mafia - Round 9 (Day 2)

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pofa wrote: I just checked my PMs, conia, and what you said last night (before Day 2) was that "James Rye is innocent and I proved myself to him (not by investigation)." I took that to mean that James Rye didn't trust you because of an investigation, but for some other reason (which matches what you told me later about what happened).

I did not realize that you meant you also had not investigated James in order to trust him. In fact, I asked you about that explicitly at the start of Day 2 after Tommy got his results back, and it wasn't until then that you told me "I didn't investigate James Rye the first night." Since you had said you would investigate me last night, and since you said you'd investigated JR on the thread, I figured that if you were town, that was your ability and that's how you proved his innocence.

I can't find any other places before Day 2 where you said you'd never investigated, otherwise I wouldn't have advised Tommy to investigate that. :P
My logic is pretty good, though.
And it makes sense.

He stopped replying after I told him I was investigating his night action also, just saying.

I knew that he didn't investigate James Rye. That helps with believing that I'm James Black.
Therefore James Rye is lying.
And I'm still going to vote for him...

Conia, it turns out you didn't tell Pofa that you didn't investigate James Rye till today.
And also, you said I didn't tell you my actions but I clearly did.




Also, My night1 action: Investigate Abs investigate Laurell (False)
I did this because he said he was going to.

Night2: Investigate Conia investigated James Rye Night 1 (False)
I did this to see if Conia is truthworthy..

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Re: Mafia - Round 9 (Day 2)

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Detective Tommy wrote:
conia wrote: While I did admit it on the thread on Day 2, you didn't tell me that was your investigation, so I couldn't have admitted it knowing you did that investigation. But what's more is I told pofa before Day 2 (I don't remember if it was on Day 1 or Night 2) that I didn't investigate James Rye. You can check that with her.
But Pofa didn't tell me anything.

How else would I know that you (for sure) didn't investigate James Rye.
Cause I'm James

How did I miss such an obvious point.

Also, you're lying. I did tell you that this was my investigation;
Detective Tommy wrote: Dude, you never replied.

Tonight, I'm going to investigate Night1: Conia investigated James Rye.

And Pofa said he will investigate: "Tommy investigated Conia"



So he can prove I'm real...
Did I not PM that to you?

Can we all agree to lynch James Rye.
And Pofa didn't tell me anything about you admitting that. You can ask her.


I think I just proved that I'm James? o_o;
And is anyone else going to back me up and vote James Rye?




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(PS, I think I can post anything as long as it doesn't talk about the GM or his/her comments. So my PM thingy is allowed?)
Sorry, you were right, you did PM it to me while I wasn't able to enter this website.
pofa wrote: I just checked my PMs, conia, and what you said last night (before Day 2) was that "James Rye is innocent and I proved myself to him (not by investigation)." I took that to mean that James Rye didn't trust you because of an investigation, but for some other reason (which matches what you told me later about what happened).

I did not realize that you meant you also had not investigated James in order to trust him. In fact, I asked you about that explicitly at the start of Day 2 after Tommy got his results back, and it wasn't until then that you told me "I didn't investigate James Rye the first night." Since you had said you would investigate me last night, and since you said you'd investigated JR on the thread, I figured that if you were town, that was your ability and that's how you proved his innocence.

I can't find any other places before Day 2 where you said you'd never investigated, otherwise I wouldn't have advised Tommy to investigate that. :P
Ok, seems I got messed up with the times of the PMs.
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Re: Mafia - Round 9 (Day 2)

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Detective Tommy wrote:
pofa wrote: I just checked my PMs, conia, and what you said last night (before Day 2) was that "James Rye is innocent and I proved myself to him (not by investigation)." I took that to mean that James Rye didn't trust you because of an investigation, but for some other reason (which matches what you told me later about what happened).

I did not realize that you meant you also had not investigated James in order to trust him. In fact, I asked you about that explicitly at the start of Day 2 after Tommy got his results back, and it wasn't until then that you told me "I didn't investigate James Rye the first night." Since you had said you would investigate me last night, and since you said you'd investigated JR on the thread, I figured that if you were town, that was your ability and that's how you proved his innocence.

I can't find any other places before Day 2 where you said you'd never investigated, otherwise I wouldn't have advised Tommy to investigate that. :P
My logic is pretty good, though.
And it makes sense.

He stopped replying after I told him I was investigating his night action also, just saying.

I knew that he didn't investigate James Rye. That helps with believing that I'm James Black.
Therefore James Rye is lying.
And I'm still going to vote for him...

Conia, it turns out you didn't tell Pofa that you didn't investigate James Rye till today.
And also, you said I didn't tell you my actions but I clearly did.




Also, My night1 action: Investigate Abs investigate Laurell (False)
I did this because he said he was going to.

Night2: Investigate Conia investigated James Rye Night 1 (False)
I did this to see if Conia is truthworthy..
What it is true, and I beg for people to believe, is that I couldn't access this website in all day. I still can't, I've to use proxies to be here.
So pofa told you to investigate that, which adds up perfectly.
Now I'm not sure where to point :(
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Re: Mafia - Round 9 (Day 2)

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Hum, so is tommy still the suspicious one or what :P

gettin kinda confused what with you talking about who PMed who what and such.

I have half an hour before I gotta sleep D:
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