Mafia Game Round 7 (BO Wins)

[Akonyl]

This made me suspicious of Akonyl being a lover and he again was suspicious of me being a lover lol. (Akonly could have ordered other targets to kill with the APTX and make it fail (he was our leader btw). He thought that I manipulated the dream so that "my lover" doesn't get killed) But that suspicious didn't hold long. (just some hours)

afaik, even as the leader I can't order poisonings, only actual murders. So, I asked you to do it because you were Gin so you were the second "in rank", in case someone else tried to do a different poisoining (like beastly ), and I think each member can only attempt to use one capsule a day (so I don't think I could have used both of the aptx on my own).

[Kleene Onigiri]

so my deduction is right but you are save by the majority right......

Depends what your deduction was. But knowing that I was suspicious (because of the scent) was right. But if I were the real Akai, I would try to get trust too. Because no BO was killed yet.
Well if I'd knew who is BO for sure, I would have suicided as Akai XD

This made me suspicious of Akonyl being a lover and he again was suspicious of me being a lover lol. (Akonly could have ordered other targets to kill with the APTX and make it fail (he was our leader btw). He thought that I manipulated the dream so that "my lover" doesn't get killed) But that suspicious didn't hold long. (just some hours)

afaik, even as the leader I can't order poisonings, only actual murders. So, I asked you to do it because you were Gin so you were the second "in rank", in case someone else tried to do a different poisoining (like beastly ), and I think each member can only attempt to use one capsule a day (so I don't think I could have used both of the aptx on my own).

Afaik you could order it, since it's a killing. (at least that what's conia pmed me) So you could have ordered that I poison someone else and that Beastly poisoned someone instead of you. And we wouldn't have been able to change that aynmore.

[Paix672]

I was actually kinda suspicious of Akonyl and I tricked him on Night 2 but it ended up failing, Oh well. :V

I think that night we just had holmes intimidate a random person, so you got unlucky there.

Although, the next day it was a 4 to 2 vote anyway, so even if you did trick me, nothing would've happened. :V

Actually, I would've gone for Beastly if I had survived. His PMs just screamed "I'm BO and I wanna know your role." I also asked him about something but he didn't answer so I took his silence as a confession.

Four Org members was too much though, I assumed there were only three.

[Kleene Onigiri]

With tequila in the game, 4 BOs was a bit much. But on the other hand, you had a better chance to randomly vote for a BO too.
Without tequila in the game, it would have been ok.

Btw. how did you like the game @ paix and xGinx. Since it was your 1. game

[xpon]

and remember paix and xGinx... dont trust those who lied to you this round..

ha ha ha

[Beastly]

I was actually kinda suspicious of Akonyl and I tricked him on Night 2 but it ended up failing, Oh well. :V

I think that night we just had holmes intimidate a random person, so you got unlucky there.

Although, the next day it was a 4 to 2 vote anyway, so even if you did trick me, nothing would've happened. :V

Actually, I would've gone for Beastly if I had survived. His PMs just screamed "I'm BO and I wanna know your role." I also asked him about something but he didn't answer so I took his silence as a confession.

Four Org members was too much though, I assumed there were only three.

No, i was trying to get some infos. I wouldn't care about it.

BTW XGinX and xpon's style are the same. I don't liket his style if im a townie.

And again, it would be really obvious as they went into let's lynch lynch lynch which is good in short games.

and remember paix and xGinx... dont trust those who lied to you this round..

ha ha ha

Ya, i was the main man last game(isn't you the one who said that?)

[Akonyl]

I was actually kinda suspicious of Akonyl and I tricked him on Night 2 but it ended up failing, Oh well. :V

I think that night we just had holmes intimidate a random person, so you got unlucky there.

Although, the next day it was a 4 to 2 vote anyway, so even if you did trick me, nothing would've happened. :V

Actually, I would've gone for Beastly if I had survived. His PMs just screamed "I'm BO and I wanna know you role." I also asked him about something but he didn't answer so I took his silence as a confession.

Four Org members was too much though, I assumed there were only three.

it's relatively par for the course, having 1/3 of the players being BO. iirc, there were 5 BO last round with 16 players and the town won without lynching any townies.

people also seemed to be playing a bit cautiously this round (such as pofa not telling anybody I was guilty night 1), but I guess nobody wanted to be the first person killed with aptx. You can still get that honor next round though.

Also, regarding tequila:
Yes, tequila is quite a powerful role. However, he's also a little easier to arrest than other BO members (he's on par with Vodka though). If you think you know who tequila is, because his frightening targets are notified, you can just say "Akonyl frightened pofa" and get tequila arrested. On the other hand, for Gin, knowing the target of slanders is much more difficult, and for the other BO members you can only get them on Killing. Although I'm not sure about Vermouth, do you need to say "Akonyl disguised as Shinichi" to arrest a disguiser or do you simply have to say "Akonyl disguised"?

[xpon]

yeah... i was going into working in the shadow first but after learned that sherry is a useless person now.. i decide to stir up the game.. and beastly... read your post after conia anounce schillok death..

if you are a townie.. or pretend to be... dont do that again.... you really expose your self.

[Beastly]

I deleted the "Ill give you the lover thing" and gave an easier hint

Cause i just remembered there is a plice so i can still be arrested. SO yea.

[Schillok]

Over already? Again, when I die games end quickly. Just completely the other way around this time. 

So, Beastly(Bourbon),Akonyl(Tequila-Boss),Kleene Onigiri(Gin) and Holmes(Vodka) are the winers!

So it was really 4 BO... with 12 players it was a bit much, as everyone should have noticed. After one draw and 2 misslynch the game was over. Even without APTX or a lover-double kill.
I hope people learned now why they are supposed to vote and not abstain just because they can't be sure if they get the real target. Because in all three lynchings the votes of the BO were much more deciding (especially in day 1 - all townies who voted actually selected a BO member. It was only the votes of the BO itself which made the draw.
Ohh, well hindsight is everything, right? 

Well, at least Tequila was able to show his strengths. I must say... his ability pretty much decided the lynching votes during the day. Shutting of Haibara during day 3 was even not necessary anymore. I guess in normal constellations (and in bigger games) this shouldn't happen, at least not until the end of the game. And if Tequila managed to survive that long then is role deserves to be good. 
I bet next time Sherry won't be so nice and expose herself during day 1 before she did anything.


I guess I know now why I died during night 2. Out of the 4 names that I was considering to interrogate and which Kleene was supposed to check, 2 were BO. Aside from the chance that I would try interrogating Kleene herself as well.
And again I allied with the wrong person...    I know I will have to stop doing that. 

Night 2 was messed up anyway. I learned about the watch that Kleene had (she got it then, right?) too late and couldn't change the plan anymore. Or actually I told her and xpon already too much at that point. I would have found a way to prove if you are town or not later. Maybe.
Or maybe I would have suggested to lynch you during day 2 as well as soon as I confirmed the bow-tie. Because at that point you had already "proven" that xpon was Sherry.

Although I'm not sure about Vermouth, do you need to say "Akonyl disguised as Shinichi" to arrest a disguiser or do you simply have to say "Akonyl disguised"?

You need also to say his disguise (Shinichi). You don't have to know if Akonyl is Kid or Vermouth.


But otherwise this game went well. 

So, is there anything that should be changed (beside Sherry's ability. Losing a complete day because she found a scent is too much. Especially since most games seem to be decided during night/day 3 leaving her not many chances to follow someone.)?

Since it was so quick - are the other players who took a break done with their examinations already? Or do we have enough time for another "quick game" with "few" payers?

But first I guess we need to find a new GM. Any volunteers?

[xpon]

pofa. did..

[Kleene Onigiri]

Over already? Again, when I die games end quickly. Just completely the other way around this time.  ::)

So, Beastly(Bourbon),Akonyl(Tequila-Boss),Kleene Onigiri(Gin) and Holmes(Vodka) are the winers!

So it was really 4 BO... with 12 players it was a bit much, as everyone should have noticed. After one draw and 2 misslynch the game was over. Even without APTX or a lover-double kill.
I hope people learned now why they are supposed to vote and not abstain just because they can't be sure if they get the real target. Because in all three lynchings the votes of the BO were much more deciding (especially in day 1 - all townies who voted actually selected a BO member. It was only the votes of the BO itself which made the draw.
Ohh, well hindsight is everything, right?  :P

Well, at least Tequila was able to show his strengths. I must say... his ability pretty much decided the lynching votes during the day. Shutting of Haibara during day 3 was even not necessary anymore. I guess in normal constellations (and in bigger games) this shouldn't happen, at least not until the end of the game. And if Tequila managed to survive that long then is role deserves to be good.  ;)
I bet next time Sherry won't be so nice and expose herself during day 1 before she did anything.


I guess I know now why I died during night 2. Out of the 4 names that I was considering to interrogate and which Kleene was supposed to check, 2 were BO. Aside from the chance that I would try interrogating Kleene herself as well.
And again I allied with the wrong person...  ::)  I know I will have to stop doing that.  ;D

Night 2 was messed up anyway. I learned about the watch that Kleene had (she got it then, right?) too late and couldn't change the plan anymore. Or actually I told her and xpon already too much at that point. I would have found a way to prove if you are town or not later. Maybe.
Or maybe I would have suggested to lynch you during day 2 as well as soon as I confirmed the bow-tie. Because at that point you had already "proven" that xpon was Sherry.

Actually we wanted to kill you even before we made that "alliance" :x Seems you're just too dangerous XD
But you didn't really trust me. And that you told me your role was more like you wanted to gain trust.
But in general. I would just lynch someone with a scent when there wasn't any BO killed yet and that person wasn't proven innocent yet.

Well, trying to get a tie during day 1 is good. Because then you can see who's BO if they decide to vote. But that's not given. It's possible the BO doesn't vote at all or just 1 is going to vote. But in this round we decided to be more aggressive because we also had tequila.
And if the whole town votes, then the BO can also hide better in those votings.
Well, both strategies have pro and cons for both sides

Although I'm not sure about Vermouth, do you need to say "Akonyl disguised as Shinichi" to arrest a disguiser or do you simply have to say "Akonyl disguised"?

You need also to say his disguise (Shinichi). You don't have to know if Akonyl is Kid or Vermouth.


But otherwise this game went well.  ;D

So, is there anything that should be changed (beside Sherry's ability. Losing a complete day because she found a scent is too much. Especially since most games seem to be decided during night/day 3 leaving her not many chances to follow someone.)?

Since it was so quick - are the other players who took a break done with their examinations already? Or do we have enough time for another "quick game" with "few" payers?

But first I guess we need to find a new GM. Any volunteers?

well, changes could that we change Sherry back (but I like it like that actually). And another change I'd suggest is that arresting si night and day ability. Conia wanted it so but the rules were said that it's "night only"
Another change would be, that the GM gives the BO a riddle with the dream in case the BO can use the APTX to kill one person for sure (like in this round)

For me this round had the feeling that both sides have a good/equal chance to win

Well, I'll join the next game And if no one else wants to be GM then I'll try my luck. But pofa volunteered before me, so pofa should say if she wants to be GM or not.
And in case I'm the GM then I'll have to change the deadline. (I don't think I can do that at 4am :x)

[xpon]

make that  8 in the morning.. so +4 hours from now.

[Holmes]

Come on! We´ve won and none of of was lynched.

[xpon]

yeah yeah yeah......

finally the BO can destroy the townie