Schillok wrote:
Kleene Onigiri wrote:
But who else do you want to vote for? (besides me? xD)
That's exactly the question.
Beastly for joining the accusing early? Could be a BO trying to support me wrongly framing someone else.
Schillok for suggesting such a complicated set-up? I blamed xpon (and now some other people) without much evidence. Could be BO trying to kill someone from town.
Ctu for talking but not working on identifying the BO. Could be BO, so of course he wouldn't do anything to help finding them.
pofa for not talking at all. As a BO he couldn't risk to leak anything that could indiscriminate him.
Well, I would be adding Holmes for not cooperating but he is the xpons target today so we can't lynch him or we won't get any step further.
If I had to choose someone... I would say
Ctu. Just... a feeling.
So if anyone can confirm him being suspicious - or not suspicious - tell me.
Or maybe we should just go with xpon...
Beastly: No reason to trust or distrust him yet, as I haven't received any PMs and his talking has been generic.
Schillok: Complicated schemes are fine (the more impressive, the better, really ;D)
Ctu: Fair point. :P
pofa:Chill out, I was asleep. Far be it from me not to participate in a lynch discussion.
Let's see...we have zero reason to trust xpon, but at the same time, we have no solid reason to distrust him either, other than "he's acting suspicious." I agree with Schillok that he would make a bad lynch today, only because he's given us something solid to go on: he claims he's Haibara. Fine, let's find a way to prove or disprove that.
It'll be difficult...xpon, it's your call whether to tell us the results of your ability on the open thread (you're already in danger of being poisoned if you really are Haibara), but you've already put yourself in danger, and it would help us check you out. Also, if Ayumi died, doesn't that mean there is at least one other DB? If so, xpon would be a good "interrogate."
Speaking more practically, I say we don't lynch xpon until he's had a chance to give us some info to work with. Lynching Haibara by mistake today would earn us nothing. Lynching Haibara by mistake tomorrow, after she's told us "Holmes/Schillok/whoever has a/no scent" would help us out. Same is true if xpon is BO--we'd be pointed in the right direction for the next suspect. Unless he does something colossally suspicious in the next few hours, I'm not going to vote for him today.
As for who else to vote, there's always Kleene, who I'm sure is really regretting making that poll. ;) Alternatively, we could assume--for the moment--that xpon's "lure out the BO by giving out info and making myself an convenient lynch target" worked, and that somebody took the bait. (It's actually not a bad idea.) The people who responded to xpon's initial declaration of "I'm not Sonoko/DBs/Vermouth" were, in this order:
Akonyl: "Saying you're not Vermouth makes me think you're Vermouth."
Schillok: "xpon is fishing for roles, so he's probably Irish/Bourbon/Okiya."
Commi-Ninja: "Ha, he's suspicious" (no reason given).
Holmes: "xpon is now suspicious" (no reason given).
Paix: "xpon is suspicious" (no reason given) "but let's hear him out."
Making early accusations (especially before the end of Night 1, when there's literally no evidence) is always suspicious. Since it would all be speculation, there was no reason to try to raise suspicion against xpon yet, except (a) for fun, because that's why we're all here, (b) to try and influence the Night 1 actions of investigators/interrogators/protectors/Okiya, and (c) lynch-vote misdirection by the BO, just like xpon hoped. The most effective way to achieve (b) and (c) without becoming suspicious yourself is to provide reasons for your claim, as Akonyl and Schillok did. Of course, they were both valid reasons (Schillok's more than Akonyl's, really).
Since then, it seems Akonyl's taken the stand that xpon should be lynched even if he's not guilty because if we don't lynch someone the BO will. But what if he really is Haibara? We'd lose one of our strongest roles. In this case, why not be sure before we take action? Schillok seems to agree with me somewhat that lynching someone who's given out a role (real or not) before we've had time to check/use him would be a waste. He's at least considering the possibility of xpon telling the truth and trying to figure out a way to prove it, whereas Akonyl's arguments have less to do with evidence and more to do with the supposed benefits of lynching--specifically, of lynching xpon, even though
there's no evidence against him except speculation and
he could provide us with info if he lives through the day.
Unless Akonyl knows something I don't--so, point blank: is there any solid evidence that xpon is not Haibara? If not, the possible consequences of lynching him outweigh the possible benefits, especially since we could use any info he gives us even if he does turn out to be BO. If spon is really Haibara, the BO know it and are probably trying to lynch him, pretending to be townies that have been convinced by Akonyl's idea that "someone is better than no one."
If we absolutely have to lynch someone today (and I'm not convinced we do), let's lynch Akonyl. :P
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