Mafia! Mafia! Mafia! Character Role Discussions

[xpon]

The cleaner has potential. If the role (or the alignment of the person) is unknown at death, it can totally mess up the both sides. If one side were to know the role of the person, the balance between mafia and town would turned upside down. The game was designed so that death gives certainty, similar to players revealing their hands after their bets in poker and blackjack. If you don't reveal what you have, no one can verify if you win or not. It's like having a game of poker in which the remaining players who didn't fold at the end of the round aren't required to show their hands to everyone to determine the winner of the round.

If the character is in, maybe the cleaner just burns the face and breaks the teeth so that no one can identify the person. I can't think of a name of someone who annihilates evidence like that...

what if we put some criminal in the mafia... ( just like the  bomber.... so he used explosive to cleaned the roles)

[pofa]

Two suggestions:

Kobayashi Sumiko

• Can Interrogate one person during the day to find out whether he/she is a DB. She'll get a yes/no asnwer. Conan and Haibara will turn up positive along with Genta, Mitsuhiko, and Ayumi. The investigation can be fooled in all the normal ways (slander, disguise)

Another possible ability:

• She may choose to disguise herself as Satou and ivestigate 1 (+?) action during the night. If her disguise is found out by another investigator, or if she investigates the same action as the real Satou, her identity will be revealed to everyone and she'll lose this ability.

Enomoto Azusa

• As a waitress at Poirot Cafe, Azusa hears the customers talk excitedly about what happened overnight. Each day, the GM will send her three statements about actions taken the previous night. Only one of these statements is true; the other two are just gossip.
• If there is a Kogoro in the game, Azusa will be given his identity. (Maybe he should be given hers, too?)

Plese suggest/modify as you see fit.

[Sakina]

Azusa is just another form of Matsuda.  She's not really needed.

[Kleene Onigiri]

Kazuha seems interesting, but the ability isn't practical. If the majority of the town votes for a person that should be killed by the town, why would Kazuha ever decrease the vote? The ability is useful only when BO numbers are higher than townsfolk numbers, which by then probably means that the BO should win (at least it becomes a game of rock, paper, scissors, where the BO guesses who is being protected/tricked/healed/etc. AND the townsfolk would have to know each other)

Kazuhas ability could be seen as a mix of Agasa and ran.
Agasa can give out his watch too and that person will be protected for a night. But you could protect a lover that is actually after your live so you could protect the wrong one too.
Or Ran could accidentally protect a BO member, which would be bad for her town too.

So if the kazuha player is a townie, she can protect someone she thinks is a townie. If she is BO, then she can try to protect her BO buddies from lynching. Also if Kazuha happens to be a lover, she can protect her lover (same with friends)

[Schillok]

I updated the list of suggested roles on page 1. (2nd thread)


Also added the following BO role:

Irish, Mafia Abductor

• Can kill at night if ordered by Anakota, but only if no other alive BO member were assigned to kill someone less often.
• Irish will abduct one character that is not played by any player during might 1. The GM will send him the name of one random town-sided character not in the game.
• When Irish is killed his abducted victim will be discovered and the name becomes known to the town.

Another BO member. This one will learn the name of a character during night 1 which is not in the game. (So in a game with out any player playing as Takagi he could abduct Takagi - and therefore knows a role which is not in the game.)
Irish (or another BO) can act as if they were that role, however they do not get its abilities. Interrogations and smell will tell show Irish as BO. Arresting him won't reveal his identity, nor that he abducted someone.

[Conia]

I guess I have to read this entire thread for modding next Round... Can we make an ultimate list with all the possible changes to the game after this Round ends?

[Schillok]

I guess I have to read this entire thread for modding next Round... Can we make an ultimate list with all the possible changes to the game after this Round ends?

You mean... a compilation of all existing and suggested roles? Sounds okay to me. Remember, as the GM you can choose which roles you don't want to include. And by not telling us which ones you removed the game could become even more... unpredictable. 

[Conia]

Just read the 2nd post of the thread. I guess I can use that list for choosing the new roles. I will post a list of all available roles at the start, if not there'll be too much... shadow...

[Akonyl]

I just thought it'd be a neat idea if there was a mafia role which could give 1 person a dream per night, in an effort to throw off people.

unfortunately, I can't think of anyone that that'd fit, so alas. D:

[Conia]

I just thought it'd be a neat idea if there was a mafia role which could give 1 person a dream per night, in an effort to throw off people.

unfortunately, I can't think of anyone that that'd fit, so alas. D:

Maybe, the first one that dies off the BO side can take that special ability and act as a ghost (he won't be able to talk with the other BO members, just give dreams). Or even better, this could be an added ability for Pisco,Akemi and Tequila, who are really dead in DC. This could work, but I don't think dead people should keep influence in the game. It's open to discuss

[Beastly]

I'm hoping that there will be no more suggestion to make the towns folk mroe solid.

As is, i don't know any possible way for B.O. to win with those Best Friend, DB, Lovers and Dreams. I suggest to take out the dreams. And add a lesser character. Or Maybe, add another character for B.O. that's useful. We all know, that majority don't want Mafia to be more powerful but we need to be more fair for B.O.

DB have a sure Investigations, the reason??? And they are alot and can hijack the votes.
If you add Kir, then another problems for B.O. with DB.Best Friend Lovers and Dreams. Come on, that's impossible for B.O. to win with a double agent.

[Tanner-kun]

I'm hoping that there will be no more suggestion to make the towns folk mroe solid.

As is, i don't know any possible way for B.O. to win with those Best Friend, DB, Lovers and Dreams. I suggest to take out the dreams. And add a lesser character. Or Maybe, add another character for B.O. that's useful. We all know, that majority don't want Mafia to be more powerful but we need to be more fair for B.O.

DB have a sure Investigations, the reason??? And they are alot and can hijack the votes.
If you add Kir, then another problems for B.O. with DB.Best Friend Lovers and Dreams. Come on, that's impossible for B.O. to win with a double agent.

I agree town has to many advantages.

[Akonyl]

I'm hoping that there will be no more suggestion to make the towns folk mroe solid.

As is, i don't know any possible way for B.O. to win with those Best Friend, DB, Lovers and Dreams. I suggest to take out the dreams. And add a lesser character. Or Maybe, add another character for B.O. that's useful. We all know, that majority don't want Mafia to be more powerful but we need to be more fair for B.O.

DB have a sure Investigations, the reason??? And they are alot and can hijack the votes.
If you add Kir, then another problems for B.O. with DB.Best Friend Lovers and Dreams. Come on, that's impossible for B.O. to win with a double agent.

I agree town has to many advantages.

one change that I will say should be done for further games is if sonoko attempts to friend a lover, something should be done about that. In effect, sonoko friending a lover results in a 3-way trust bond, which is something that makes the DBs powerful, and there shouldn't really be 2 possible triple-trust groups running around. So perhaps if sonoko friends a lover, disallow it, which will also remove her ability to learn a BO member simply by choosing 1 friend and having it be refused. Although she'll still know the person's somewhat untrustworthy, it won't just be like "oh hey this guy's BO lynch him woooo".

I wonder why I would think such a thing is powerful... :V

[Tanner-kun]

I'm hoping that there will be no more suggestion to make the towns folk mroe solid.

As is, i don't know any possible way for B.O. to win with those Best Friend, DB, Lovers and Dreams. I suggest to take out the dreams. And add a lesser character. Or Maybe, add another character for B.O. that's useful. We all know, that majority don't want Mafia to be more powerful but we need to be more fair for B.O.

DB have a sure Investigations, the reason??? And they are alot and can hijack the votes.
If you add Kir, then another problems for B.O. with DB.Best Friend Lovers and Dreams. Come on, that's impossible for B.O. to win with a double agent.

I agree town has to many advantages.

one change that I will say should be done for further games is if sonoko attempts to friend a lover, something should be done about that. In effect, sonoko friending a lover results in a 3-way trust bond, which is something that makes the DBs powerful, and there shouldn't really be 2 possible triple-trust groups running around. So perhaps if sonoko friends a lover, disallow it, which will also remove her ability to learn a BO member simply by choosing 1 friend and having it be refused. Although she'll still know the person's somewhat untrustworthy, it won't just be like "oh hey this guy's BO lynch him woooo".

I wonder why I would think such a thing is powerful... :V

*evil laugh*

[Beastly]

I'm hoping that there will be no more suggestion to make the towns folk mroe solid.

As is, i don't know any possible way for B.O. to win with those Best Friend, DB, Lovers and Dreams. I suggest to take out the dreams. And add a lesser character. Or Maybe, add another character for B.O. that's useful. We all know, that majority don't want Mafia to be more powerful but we need to be more fair for B.O.

DB have a sure Investigations, the reason??? And they are alot and can hijack the votes.
If you add Kir, then another problems for B.O. with DB.Best Friend Lovers and Dreams. Come on, that's impossible for B.O. to win with a double agent.

I agree town has to many advantages.

one change that I will say should be done for further games is if sonoko attempts to friend a lover, something should be done about that. In effect, sonoko friending a lover results in a 3-way trust bond, which is something that makes the DBs powerful, and there shouldn't really be 2 possible triple-trust groups running around. So perhaps if sonoko friends a lover, disallow it, which will also remove her ability to learn a BO member simply by choosing 1 friend and having it be refused. Although she'll still know the person's somewhat untrustworthy, it won't just be like "oh hey this guy's BO lynch him woooo".

I wonder why I would think such a thing is powerful... :V

But DB is too powerful they are alot and there is no way they're trick. Having 3 people is already good enough knowing an information is already enough. So let them get tricked they're kids duuuh.

I hope if there's a DB there's only lover or bestfriend not both.