Discussion Thread: Detective Conan Files 841-843

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Pmofmalasia wrote: Quick question, when Conan tells them that he wrote "Kudou" in for the address, he also says that only he could write the address "like that."  What does this mean?  Only he as Shinichi?  Or only he as Conan?  I'm assuming it has something to do with how one writes their own address in Japanese or something.

Anyway, I love Bourbon's face on the bottom right panel of page 15. xD
I was wondering about that too. Maybe as Conan, so it looks like a terrible childish writing, and Conan might be the only one who knows the address.  ???
Pmof-samakata Nix means "to Nix, who lives at the Pmof residence".
Kudou-samakata Agasa means "to Agasa, who lives at the Kudou residence."
Only Agasa and Kudou in this entire world could have written it like that; no one else in the world thinks Agasa is living with Kudou after all. And obviously, Okiya wouldn't think Agasa wrote that. That leaves Kudou/Conan.
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Re: Discussion Thread: Detective Conan Files 841-843

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HADAA wrote:
Nix wrote:
Pmofmalasia wrote: Quick question, when Conan tells them that he wrote "Kudou" in for the address, he also says that only he could write the address "like that."  What does this mean?  Only he as Shinichi?  Or only he as Conan?  I'm assuming it has something to do with how one writes their own address in Japanese or something.

Anyway, I love Bourbon's face on the bottom right panel of page 15. xD
I was wondering about that too. Maybe as Conan, so it looks like a terrible childish writing, and Conan might be the only one who knows the address.  ???
Pmof-samakata Nix means "to Nix, who lives at the Pmof residence".
Kudou-samakata Agasa means "to Agasa, who lives at the Kudou residence."
Only Agasa and Kudou in this entire world could have written it like that; no one else in the world thinks Agasa is living with Kudou after all. And obviously, Okiya wouldn't think Agasa wrote that. That leaves Kudou/Conan.
Ah, thank you! That makes sense now :)
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Thank you very much, that explained it perfectly! :)  I thought it might be a way of identifying him as Shinichi or something, so I was a bit confused as to why he'd tell the DB that
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But does Amuro know Conan is Shinichi? How?
Another thing I don't get is why Conan asked help to Amuro instead of Okiya, if he knows Amuro is Bourbon.
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Well the writing on the package was intended for Okiya, not Bourbon.  And when he asked Bourbon for help, it was his only option since he didn't know about the cake.  Bourbon wouldn't just leave Conan to die, not necessarily because of Vermouth (which Conan doesn't know about anyway) but saving Conan would cause Kogoro/Agasa to trust him more, so Conan knows he will come rescue them.
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Ah, thanks for the explanation!!  :)
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Aokochan wrote: But does Amuro know Conan is Shinichi? How?
Another thing I don't get is why Conan asked help to Amuro instead of Okiya, if he knows Amuro is Bourbon.
we dont know yet but at least He suspicious about it
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Ah thanks blurf! :)
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Pmofmalasia wrote: Well the writing on the package was intended for Okiya, not Bourbon.  And when he asked Bourbon for help, it was his only option since he didn't know about the cake.  Bourbon wouldn't just leave Conan to die, not necessarily because of Vermouth (which Conan doesn't know about anyway) but saving Conan would cause Kogoro/Agasa to trust him more, so Conan knows he will come rescue them.
Plus Amuro has no reason to not save Conan.. after all he doesn't even know Conan knows he's a "bad guy".
Amuro is not even the type who "doesn't care" about people when they're in danger even though he's a black org guy. Since it was deducing what was going on he just done it (since he's a detective) and went to save the DB.

The only thing that makes him a "bad guy" is his desire to find and kill Akai...
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Aokochan wrote: But does Amuro know Conan is Shinichi? How?
Another thing I don't get is why Conan asked help to Amuro instead of Okiya, if he knows Amuro is Bourbon.
we dont know yet but at least He suspicious about it
If you're referring about the moment Amuro told Vermouth he was interested in Sleeping Kogorou and thought "Conan is Sleeping Kogorou" we don't know if he was suspecting Conan=Shinichi.
He just thought that Conan may be the one who solves the cases behind Kogorou but he doesn't think about Shinichi...
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Wow thank you Incomplete-tantei!! But can you please tell me in which file Amuro tells Vermouth about sleeping Kogoro?
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It was at the end of the tennis case with Amuro. File 827.
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Incomplete-tantei wrote: It was at the end of the tennis case with Amuro. File 827.
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Come to think of it, Amuro possesses a huge physical power... even stronger than Date! :o
Despite Date being brawny, he said it himself : "Neither my brains nor my brawn were ever any match for that guy" xD
Amuro sure is scary! I wonder if Okiya/Akai can stand up to him...
Guess he was only at 50% when he knocked the guy out :p

And also what did Conan mean when he said that if it's Okiya he wouldn't "knock" the delivery guys out but would do something else ? Put the pressure to them or something like that? (see when he saved Ayumi in the Ikkaku rock case)
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He was talking about the cell phone in the small package, it was sent by Okiya after they dropped the cake off at his house so that Conan could call the police.
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Oh yeah right.
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