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cashman_11 wrote: I think it's just an outfit change. I noticed in Valentine's Day Murder case, when Ran and Makoto kick the criminal, they changed her outfit, in the manga she had on a shortskirt, in the anime, it was lengthened. Also, in the Titan high school ghost case, the part where Sonoko is put to slip and falls so that her panties are showing is changed. Originally, everyone noticed when she fell, but in the anime, Dr. Araide wonders if she is ok, then Ran notices her panties.
The Valentine's Day outfit change was also censorship of sorts, since it avoided the Ran karate kick crotch panty shot. Ski Lodge did the same thing. No panty/bra showing scenes seem to be allowed in the anime after the first year, so there are a lot of similar trivial fanservice diminishing changes.

On the other hand, the one panel chest-up shower scene in Desperate Revival became a waist-up pan in the anime, and the animators never had a problem showing the flashbacks to Ran's bath with Conan until very recently (Scar of First Love when they put Ran in a towel, only to show a whole tub full of implicitly naked men a bit later).

Nudity in implied sexual situations is too much for the anime, though. In the manga at least Ran knows what sex is (or at least that it involves getting naked at some point). Anime Ran might not know that...

Oh, while we're on this topic, the anime totally ruined this joke.
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Yep it goes without doubt that anime in Japan needs to have 1. Less blood to NO blood. 2. No Nudity 3. "Real bad" language. But these conditions actually applied to TV shows too, the ones who aired at prime time that is

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I think during the beginning of the curry case in the 300s, they have Sonoko suggesting that Ran play tennis with just her panties under a super short skirt which led to some of Conan's greatest dialogue ever. In the anime Sonoko suggests "regular socks" which, somehow, actually made it funnier.
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kkslider5552000 wrote: I think during the beginning of the curry case in the 300s, they have Sonoko suggesting that Ran play tennis with just her panties under a super short skirt which led to some of Conan's greatest dialogue ever. In the anime Sonoko suggests "regular socks" which, somehow, actually made it funnier.
Eh, that's a poor translation rather than an anime change. I'm pretty sure Sonoko suggested that Ran wear the outfit with regular panties in the anime, too.

Oh, you probably remember this, but I suppose it should be noted for the thread. The scene with Sonoko talking with Kogoro at the beginning was added by the anime. Also, when the anime shows Conan imagining Ran playing tennis in the skirt, his head is obscuring the fanservice part of the image, unlike in the manga. Oh, and the anime didn't show that Conan got a touch... nosebleedy at the thought, either.
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I help you bump this thread:

What I always find funny that in the anime Shinichi tends to have very broad shoulders. XD;; Er... I should provide pictures, but maybe later.

And in Desperate Revival in the manga Shinichi's collapsing so that he eventually lied on his back when he fainted, however in the anime he fell forward. Maybe they changed because of the better setting? Well, it is more naturaly perhaps in the anime-style way. But... I like the manga's version better.
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I just remembered, in the Alike Princess case, they also remove the scene that show Eri and Yukiko as kids in the pageant, which I have no idea why?
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Are there any other scenes that were changed because of censorship?
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Are there any other scenes that were changed because of censorship?


Like I posted in [iurl=viewtopic.php?p=74263#p74263]another thread[/iurl], Kogoro molests Ran a bit in the manga version of Night Baron. He also gets some lumps in retaliation from both Ran and Conan. The scene never happens, even implicitly, in the anime.

me wrote:No panty/bra showing scenes seem to be allowed in the anime after the first year, so there are a lot of similar trivial fanservice diminishing changes.
I guess a noting a couple more of the trivial scenes might be amusing.


During Ran's [iurl=http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r130 ... _manga.jpg]change of shirts[/iurl] in Night Before the Wedding Murder (episode 141/volume 21 file 11) we can see Ran's bra in the manga version. Noteworthy because it confirms that she does indeed wear potential assassin weapons...

They did the [iurl=http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r130 ... _ep438.png]wardrobe change[/iurl] for Ran again in Fish Mail (ep438/vol51.2). There never was a panty shot in that story, though, just [iurl=http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r130 ... _manga.png]teases[/iurl].

[iurl=http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r130 ... _manga.png]Blood[/iurl] is another thing the anime tends to [iurl=http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r130 ... 458_02.png]censor[/iurl] (images in links from ep458/vol52.11).

More comparison images, these from episode 464, volume 53 file 10:
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Like the fanservice censorship, the blood censorship is usually pretty plot trivial and hard to list in one post. I have more examples of both in my [iurl=http://s143.photobucket.com/albums/r130 ... d%20anime/]Photobucket comparison folder[/iurl].
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Nyarl wrote:
marioguy wrote:
Are there any other scenes that were changed because of censorship?


Like I posted in [iurl=viewtopic.php?p=74263#p74263]another thread[/iurl], Kogoro molests Ran a bit in the manga version of Night Baron. He also gets some lumps in retaliation from both Ran and Conan. The scene never happens, even implicitly, in the anime.
Man...I loved that part...partly because Conan actually takes part in the beating up of Kogoro.

I can't believe no one has mentioned this yet...but in the June Bride case, they took out the best moment of the entire thing. In the manga, after Conan tells Ran to call the ambulance...well, for some reason I can't explain it, so I'll post the pages.
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I don't know about you guys, but I loved that part. It was just epic. I was so mad when I realized they took that out of the anime. >_<
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Pretztailfan95 wrote:
Nyarl wrote:
marioguy wrote:
Are there any other scenes that were changed because of censorship?


Like I posted in [iurl=viewtopic.php?p=74263#p74263]another thread[/iurl], Kogoro molests Ran a bit in the manga version of Night Baron. He also gets some lumps in retaliation from both Ran and Conan. The scene never happens, even implicitly, in the anime.
Man...I loved that part...partly because Conan actually takes part in the beating up of Kogoro.

I can't believe no one has mentioned this yet...but in the June Bride case, they took out the best moment of the entire thing. In the manga, after Conan tells Ran to call the ambulance...well, for some reason I can't explain it, so I'll post the pages.
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I don't know about you guys, but I loved that part. It was just epic. I was so mad when I realized they took that out of the anime. >_<
Forgot about that scene. I wonder if they just couldn't fit that scene in, or if they were afraid kids would emulate something/fail to call "official" emergency paramedics?

Anyway, here's some more. In 12,000,000 Hostages, when Sato shoots at the culprit, the anime implies that she had poor aim or wasn't really shooting to kill him, as they show the gun stationary relative to the background as it fires, Takagi's tackle apparently too late to throw off her aim. He clearly got there in time to throw off her aim in the manga version. Also, he doesn't go on to slap her in the manga version.

There are a couple of other differences in that story that I can remember. The scene at the beginning of the anime version, with Ran getting a new cell and a call from Shin'ichi, wasn't in the manga*. Neither was Sonoko showing Ran a picture of Makoto.

* Did Ran really lose her cell in a previous anime original episode, or was that just backstory invented for that scene?
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I came to the manga before the anime, so it always annoys the hell out of me when they alter things in the anime; particularly the squeamishness about blood. If you don't want to show blood, don't animate a murder mystery manga where the body count is in triple figures. Also their thing for plot holes. They're better about that kind of thing now, but why do they change the storyline on a whim? Really, why?
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mangaluva wrote: I came to the manga before the anime, so it always annoys the hell out of me when they alter things in the anime; particularly the squeamishness about blood. If you don't want to show blood, don't animate a murder mystery manga where the body count is in triple figures. Also their thing for plot holes. They're better about that kind of thing now, but why do they change the storyline on a whim? Really, why?
1. Don't blame them, blame retarded society when it comes to blood.
2. None of the changes after episode 20 or 30 matter.
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I do notice that the anime leaves out a lot of blushing.
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It may be down to the fact that the anime, as far as I can tell, is aimed at a younger set than the manga, particularly overseas. Whenever people accuse me of reading "children's comics", i'm inevitably forced to show them the frame of the guy who gets beheaded in the first chapter with the high-pressure arteries. They keep dumbing it down to kids because that seems to be the general perception of anime.
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mangaluva wrote: It may be down to the fact that the anime, as far as I can tell, is aimed at a younger set than the manga
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Often, even though there are differences, Gosho does something that is very rare: Make the manga fit with the anime.

Many manga artists make the anime fit with the manga. But I guess since he's writing the manga while the anime is still going, Ran's hair is changed, Conan's hair is changed, and other anime physical changes take place.

But story line is often on it's on. I think that it's very hard to make animes exactly like manga. First off, no one would watch the anime. Second, when canon episodes are changed, filler episodes make even more changes within story and character development. That's why some characters appear to act differently in the manga than they do in the anime, and sometimes in the anime, some charavters do out-of-character things....

Just my observation....
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