Mafia Round 20: The Stalker Round! (BO Wins!)

[Kleene Onigiri]

Well, someone has to die XD
Better than having the usual one getting killed

[Edogawa4869]

Hey Conia, what was the answer to the second code?

[PT]

Actually, having used both Stake-Out and Observe, I prefer Stake-Out. At least it gives you information you can actually work with. With Observe it's like "Okay! That person's an adult... so the chance they're town vs. BO is... exactly the same as it was before." Teenager and child are obviously more effective than that, but this is definitely one of my least favorite abilities.

So, personally, I would rather be Korn than Chianti.

Anyway, I don't think Calvados needs a change - BO doesn't really need to be any more powerful at all, IMO. If the last two rounds are any indication, they're pretty powerful.

Re: Vodka and Pisco: I don't think they need any investigative abilities. No need to add more investigators at all. And again, I don't think they need extra abilities anyway. The town tricksters don't have any other abilities either - so if we gave Vodka something else, we'd have to give those two something else as well. And Pisco is pretty strong as is, even if he doesn't do a whole lot.

[Dus]

I don't think the BO needs to be made more powerful. Pisco has already been upgraded in round 18, and their roles are fine as they are, anyway. And even if you don't have much to do as BO - you still have allies you can strategise with so it's not exactly boring. Au contraire, this round once again shows that the number of BOs should be ~1/4 rather than 1/3, especially when there aren't many cops around.

[Detective Tommy]

Hey Conia, what was the answer to the second code?

Which one? :3

[Schillok]

I know that there should be less BO around. But on the other hand that means that fewer BOs should be able to do the job of what the BO was able to do before.
Really, the only reason why I like strengthening the BO is so that in a game we could have less than them.

Of course the other question is which formula is better suited to balance the game.
Is it 1/3 - 1? Or really 1/4? In case of this game the former would have meant 7 BO, the latter 6 BO.
As far as I know only in xpons round the 1/4th had been used. It was a close game, but the BO had some bonuses during that game.

But of people are okay with the BO the way they are now I guess there is no reason to change them.
(Though, I still think knowing if a townie is a child, teenager or adult is more useful to the BO. It might be different for the town. Just like healing is good for the town but pretty much useless for BO some abilities have different strengths depending on which side uses them.

[Akonyl]

Actually, having used both Stake-Out and Observe, I prefer Stake-Out. At least it gives you information you can actually work with. With Observe it's like "Okay! That person's an adult... so the chance they're town vs. BO is... exactly the same as it was before." Teenager and child are obviously more effective than that, but this is definitely one of my least favorite abilities.

So, personally, I would rather be Korn than Chianti.

Anyway, I don't think Calvados needs a change - BO doesn't really need to be any more powerful at all, IMO. If the last two rounds are any indication, they're pretty powerful.

Re: Vodka and Pisco: I don't think they need any investigative abilities. No need to add more investigators at all. And again, I don't think they need extra abilities anyway. The town tricksters don't have any other abilities either - so if we gave Vodka something else, we'd have to give those two something else as well. And Pisco is pretty strong as is, even if he doesn't do a whole lot.

the only problem in that argument imo is that you're using the reason why stake-out is better for the town to say why it's better for the BO, when if the BO observes an adult, it can vastly lessen the role-pool they could be for APTX purposes (especially if they know their ability).

As for Pisco, a few days ago I had thought up a different special-ability for him but I forget what it was D:

But basically, I still don't like the fact that Pisco has an auto-kill ability as it's sorta like sniping and it feels tacked on to make him better more than anything.

[PT]

True, maybe observe is better for the BO than stake-out.  To be fair though, as Vermouth-Camel observe wasn't all the useful either, even if it did "lessen the role pool" a little bit.  Most ability types (minus investigate/interrogate/discombobulate - though the BO knows the other tricksters are teenagers anyway - and maybe one other I'm forgetting) are specific to an age range, anyway.

Anyway, I still don't feel the need to strengthen the BO.

[Conia]

Hey Conia, what was the answer to the second code?

viewtopic.php?p=62389#p62389

Another factor: Every discombobulation, and there were a lot, were applied on townies, never on the BO.

[Akonyl]

Anyway, I still don't feel the need to strengthen the BO.

neither do I, and hopefully you didn't think that me talking about Pisco was about strengthening him

I just meant that I feel like maybe his bribe should be changed to something more pisco-y instead.

[PT]

I would be okay with changing bribe to something else. And I actually wasn't sure what you were getting at anyway.

[Abs.]

Does CTU still have the next game?  He hasn't been online for a few days...  Shopping?  

[Detective Tommy]

Hey Conia, what was the answer to the second code?

viewtopic.php?p=62389#p62389

Another factor: Every discombobulation, and there were a lot, were applied on townies, never on the BO.

I Google'd your riddle and got the answer, btw.

[Conia]

Hey Conia, what was the answer to the second code?

viewtopic.php?p=62389#p62389

Another factor: Every discombobulation, and there were a lot, were applied on townies, never on the BO.

I Google'd your riddle and got the answer, btw.

Good stalker? ^^

[Yurikochan]

Hey Conia, what was the answer to the second code?

viewtopic.php?p=62389#p62389

Another factor: Every discombobulation, and there were a lot, were applied on townies, never on the BO.

I Google'd your riddle and got the answer, btw.

Good stalker? ^^

I did the same but they were to check any answers. ^^

The math one was pretty easy evenfor someone who hated numbers.