Discussion Thread: Detective Conan 1,027-1031

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Discussion Thread: Detective Conan 1,027-1031

Postby DCUniverseAficionado » February 8th, 2019, 1:01 am

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Summaries of 1,027 are out:

From Manaphy:
Spoiler:
"Kogoro decides to go to Nagano after receiving a request/job !
With Amuro & Co, Conan goes to where the sender is, but...!?
The exciting long series starts !"


From Anthony:
Spoiler:
"In this chapter, the Mouri family (supposedly Kogorou, Ran & Conan) go to somewhere by train. Kogorou, Conan, Amuro & the small-moustache ojisan wearing the eye patch (Wakita Kanenori) are seen together. After arriving at an annex (hotel), 5 key side characters of the new case are introduced."


And courtesy of Mak, we know this case will be 5 files long.

UPDATE:
1,027 spoiler pics are now out.

No break next week—we can expect 1,028 spoilers this time next week.

UPDATE (#2):
Already, we have a 1,028 preview, courtesy of Holmes [真呈亜]:
Spoiler:
"Conan and Amuro getting a gorgeous magazine cover!"

"Melting the snow, too...
...that burning couple..."

"In the snow, trapped in the church building in Nagano, the four—Conan, Kogoro, Amuro and Wakita—at first request to be picked up...!?"
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Re: Discussion Thread: Detective Conan 1,027-1031

Postby Spimer » February 12th, 2019, 1:12 pm

Explanation of the case:
Spoiler:
Well, basically, Kogoro got a letter and emails from a guy who told him to solve a friend's suicide which might be a murder since there's this mysterious cypher found at the feet of the hung man. For some reason, he's told to bring 4 people with him. Initially, Ran and Sonoko were going to come along but Sonoko suddenly got fever so Ran stays to keep her company. She suggested to Amuro to replace her since the Café Poirot owner and Azusa were going on a trip and the café would be closed in the meanwhile. Wakita suddenly appears, saying he wants to come along with his "master" too.

The 4 of them pick the "Super Azusa" train to go to Nagano and reach and an abandoned church where the client cited them at. There they find a group of 5 who were in the same high school and who've gathered to say farewell to someone. But when Kogoro announces the name of his client, they are startled because the name is that of the person who suicided in the same church 2 months before

Suddenly, the wooden platform that served as parking creaks and breaks, dropping the cars parked there to the valley below. Kogoro and co find that the "parking" sign looks too new compared to the rest of the church so they suspect someone purposely did that to isolate the group there

Also, each group member claims that one of them told them to come but they begin to accuse each other of having sent the email telling them so and come full circle which means that one or more among them are lying. Wakita saying he's getting excited because this feels like the ideal conditions for serial murders to happen


Sheet with the "code" (6x6 grid filled with katakana)
Top row: "Ru-Ki-Se-Da-Ya-su
2nd row: "Fu-Ra-Re-Ya(small)-Pu-Do"
3rd row: "Shi-Bo-Pi-Mi-U-Ku"
4th row: "ーBa-Ki-Sa-Shi-Ka"
5th row: "Chi-I-N-Yu(small)-Ta-Tsu(small)"
Bottomost row: "To-Pa-E(small)-A(small)-Yo(small)-A"

Case characters:
Nichihara Taisei AKA Nicchi (Age unknown) (Supposedly the client, actually suicided by hanging in the old church 2 months before)
Fujide Raito (27) High school teacher
Wada Kouhei (28) Salaryman
Koura Ikue (27) OL (Office Lady)
Kawasaki Yousuke (28) Bank teller
Nishino Sumiya (28) Bartender
Location: abandoned church somewhere in Nagano
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Re: Discussion Thread: Detective Conan 1,027-1031

Postby Incomplete-tantei » February 14th, 2019, 9:04 pm

Spimer wrote:Explanation of the case:
Spoiler:
Well, basically, Kogoro got a letter and emails from a guy who told him to solve a friend's suicide which might be a murder since there's this mysterious cypher found at the feet of the hung man. For some reason, he's told to bring 4 people with him. Initially, Ran and Sonoko were going to come along but Sonoko suddenly got fever so Ran stays to keep her company. She suggested to Amuro to replace her since the Café Poirot owner and Azusa were going on a trip and the café would be closed in the meanwhile. Wakita suddenly appears, saying he wants to come along with his "master" too.

The 4 of them pick the "Super Azusa" train to go to Nagano and reach and an abandoned church where the client cited them at. There they find a group of 5 who were in the same high school and who've gathered to say farewell to someone. But when Kogoro announces the name of his client, they are startled because the name is that of the person who suicided in the same church 2 months before

Suddenly, the wooden platform that served as parking creaks and breaks, dropping the cars parked there to the valley below. Kogoro and co find that the "parking" sign looks too new compared to the rest of the church so they suspect someone purposely did that to isolate the group there

Also, each group member claims that one of them told them to come but they begin to accuse each other of having sent the email telling them so and come full circle which means that one or more among them are lying. Wakita saying he's getting excited because this feels like the ideal conditions for serial murders to happen


Sheet with the "code" (6x6 grid filled with katakana)
Top row: "Ru-Ki-Se-Da-Ya-su
2nd row: "Fu-Ra-Re-Ya(small)-Pu-Do"
3rd row: "Shi-Bo-Pi-Mi-U-Ku"
4th row: "ーBa-Ki-Sa-Shi-Ka"
5th row: "Chi-I-N-Yu(small)-Ta-Tsu(small)"
Bottomost row: "To-Pa-E(small)-A(small)-Yo(small)-A"

Case characters:
Nichihara Taisei AKA Nicchi (Age unknown) (Supposedly the client, actually suicided by hanging in the old church 2 months before)
Fujide Raito (27) High school teacher
Wada Kouhei (28) Salaryman
Koura Ikue (27) OL (Office Lady)
Kawasaki Yousuke (28) Bank teller
Nishino Sumiya (28) Bartender
Location: abandoned church somewhere in Nagano


Spoiler:
From what I understood, the Café Poirot owner and a friend of his went on a trip, not Azusa. Amuro just said Azusa had some plans for the days off. And what do you mean by the "Super Azusa" train ? lol
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Re: Discussion Thread: Detective Conan 1,027-1031

Postby Spimer » February 15th, 2019, 10:18 am

The Super Azusa / Azusa is the name of a train service connecting Tokyo and Nagano Prefecture.

Also
Spoiler:
You're right, I was mistaken about why Azusa is not coming.
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Re: Discussion Thread: Detective Conan 1,027-1031

Postby PhantomWriter » February 15th, 2019, 8:16 pm

Like the case where Wakita is introduced, in this case, Wakita

Spoiler:
is squatting again as he stands. It's especially interesting, since we've already had KID cases during the Rum arc where that's repeatedly mentioned as part of his disguise, to fake being someone shorter.
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Re: Discussion Thread: Detective Conan 1,027-1031

Postby DCUniverseAficionado » February 16th, 2019, 11:59 am

PhantomWriter wrote:Like the case where Wakita is introduced, in this case, Wakita

Spoiler:
is squatting again as he stands. It's especially interesting, since we've already had KID cases during the Rum arc where that's repeatedly mentioned as part of his disguise, to fake being someone shorter.


Curiouser and curiouser...

1,028 spoiler pics are now out, as is a summary (courtesy of Baka):

Spoiler:
"That paper with the floor plan was stuck in the inner side of the chapel and has a message signed by the dead Nichihara
Also, the Nagano police can't get to the building because the tunnel has been blocked by a avalanche
The paper says the following: "If you want to hold a memorial service, go to the places indicated below, and one by one, gather words of condolence"
Also, Amuro suggests using the cards to allow people to choose where they want to go to
If they all pick the same numbers they'll go by the order of the decks (spade, heart, diamond, club)"


And just like the last time we got a cipher like this (1,000–1,005/927–928), the cipher seems to have already been cracked (this Japanese fan deduction was imparted to us by Mycroft):
https://justpaste.it/67412
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Postby thriceplus » February 17th, 2019, 1:00 pm

Nagano huh? Seems like Nagano's getting pretty important location wise
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Re: Discussion Thread: Detective Conan 1,027-1031

Postby Nemomon » February 17th, 2019, 1:33 pm

thriceplus wrote:Nagano huh? Seems like Nagano's getting pretty important location wise


Considering that Scotch's brother lives there... and everybody that doesn't like Koumei likes Kan-chan who both are from Nagano, so don't be surprised ;). I'm kinda waiting both both Koumei and Kan-chan to appear at the end of this case, maybe something interesting (especially Koumei) they wll have to say. Especially that both of them are the only ones to not consider Conan a child.
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Re: Discussion Thread: Detective Conan 1,027-1031

Postby thriceplus » February 17th, 2019, 5:35 pm

So if we believe that Rum is Wakita, then Bourbon's hanging out with his boss.
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Re: Discussion Thread: Detective Conan 1,027-1031

Postby MeiTanteixX » February 17th, 2019, 6:58 pm

thriceplus wrote:So if we believe that Rum is Wakita, then Bourbon's hanging out with his boss.
more importantly, the higher-up would be acting like the newbie.
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Postby mtcc » February 17th, 2019, 7:47 pm

PhantomWriter wrote:Like the case where Wakita is introduced, in this case, Wakita

Spoiler:
is squatting again as he stands. It's especially interesting, since we've already had KID cases during the Rum arc where that's repeatedly mentioned as part of his disguise, to fake being someone shorter.

maybe he has some sort of injury
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Re: Discussion Thread: Detective Conan 1,027-1031

Postby mtcc » February 20th, 2019, 7:14 am

1027 p4 did Amuro say best apprentice or number one apprentice?
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Re: Discussion Thread: Detective Conan 1,027-1031

Postby Spimer » February 21st, 2019, 5:39 am

"Ichiban" can mean "best" or "first" or "number one". In this case it might be "number one" since he's the first apprentice.
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Re: Discussion Thread: Detective Conan 1,027-1031

Postby DCUniverseAficionado » February 22nd, 2019, 6:28 pm

Courtesy of Baka and presumenothing, we now have a short summary of 1,029 from Chinese fans:
Spoiler:
"Kogoro sends a picture to Koumei who notices something. Amuro and Conan (?) are doing something about the case in the toilet. The glasses guy (Kawasaki?) is the next who should die."
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Re: Discussion Thread: Detective Conan 1,027-1031

Postby Spimer » February 23rd, 2019, 6:15 am

Spoilers for file 1029 have emerged

Spoiler:
Conan asks Amuro about whether he's met RUM. Amuro answers in a roundabout way, saying that if he'd met RUM then Conan would start to check people Amuro relates with, and if he replies that he hasn't met RUM, he'd be wary of unknown persons approaching either Conan or Amuro. In the end he simply gives him a hint: RUM is "very impatient".

Also, Kogoro sends the Nagano police a video of the crime scene and Koumei reacts to seeing Amuro in the background, thinking he's seen him somewhere before.

Also, next victim is Fujide, the bank employee with glasses. He's poisoned with potassium cyanide but there's no reaction from the water in the bottle he was drinking. A new cipher is found next to him too. (Possibly indicating the next crime will be in the study / library).
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