Akai (SPOILERS)

[Kogorou]

Maybe we are all wrong ang Gosho and somthing completly different in his mind
I just can't wait until I got home from vacation to read the new Manga scans (Damn PC here doesn't support it) *grrrr*

[Eve]

Does anyone have an episode list of every single appreance Akai has made?

    *  Episode 230: The Mysterious Passenger (Part 1)
    * Episode 231: The Mysterious Passenger (Part 2)
    * Episode 254: Metropolitan Police Detective Love Story 4 (Part 2)
    * Episode 259: The Man From Chicago (Part 2)
    * Episode 267: The Truth Behind Valentine's (The Reasoning)
    * Episode 269: The Forgotten Memento from the Crime (Part 1)
    * Episode 270: The Forgotten Memento from the Crime (Part 2)
    * Episode 271: Secret Rushed Omission (Part 1)
    * Episode 284: Chinatown Deja Vu in the Rain (Part 1)
    * Episode 285: Chinatown Deja Vu in the Rain (Part 2)
    * Episode 286: Shinichi Kudo's New York Case (The Case)
    * Episode 288: Shinichi Kudo's New York Case (The Resolution)
    * Episode 308: The Dark Footprint (Part 2)
    * Episode 309: Contact with the Black Organization (The Negotiation)
    * Episode 311: Contact with the Black Organization (The Desperation)
    * Episode 336: Secret of the Touto Film Making Centre (Part 2)
    * Episode 338: Four Porsches (Part 1)
    * Episode 339: Four Porsches (Part 2)
    * Episode 345: Head-to-Head Match With the Black Organization; Two Mysteries of the Night of the Full Moon (2.5 Hour Special)
    * Episode 425: Black Impact! The Moment the Black Organization Reaches Out! (2.5 Hour Special)
    * Episode 462: The Shadow of the Black Organization (The Young Witness)
    * Episode 492: Clash of Red and Black! Blood Relative
    * Episode 495: Clash of Red and Black! Coma
    * Episode 496: Clash of Red and Black! Invasion
    * Episode 497: Clash of Red and Black! Awakening
    * Episode 498: Clash of Red and Black! Disturbance
    * Episode 499: Clash of Red and Black! Camouflage
    * Episode 500: Clash of Red and Black! Testament
    * Episode 501: Clash of Red and Black! Suspicion
    * Episode 502: Clash of Red and Black! Innocence
    * Episode 503: Clash of Red and Black! Ready for Death
    * Episode 504: Clash of Red and Black! Death on Duty
    * Episode 507: The Blind Spot in the Karaoke Box (Part 1)
    * Episode 508: The Blind Spot in the Karaoke Box (Part 2)


I copied them from the dcw wiki

NICE! ^^

[KainTheVampire]

Does anyone have an episode list of every single appreance Akai has made?

 

Spoiler:

   *  Episode 230: The Mysterious Passenger (Part 1)
   * Episode 231: The Mysterious Passenger (Part 2)
   * Episode 254: Metropolitan Police Detective Love Story 4 (Part 2)
   * Episode 259: The Man From Chicago (Part 2)
   * Episode 267: The Truth Behind Valentine's (The Reasoning)
   * Episode 269: The Forgotten Memento from the Crime (Part 1)
   * Episode 270: The Forgotten Memento from the Crime (Part 2)
   * Episode 271: Secret Rushed Omission (Part 1)
   * Episode 284: Chinatown Deja Vu in the Rain (Part 1)
   * Episode 285: Chinatown Deja Vu in the Rain (Part 2)
   * Episode 286: Shinichi Kudo's New York Case (The Case)
   * Episode 288: Shinichi Kudo's New York Case (The Resolution)
   * Episode 308: The Dark Footprint (Part 2)
   * Episode 309: Contact with the Black Organization (The Negotiation)
   * Episode 311: Contact with the Black Organization (The Desperation)
   * Episode 336: Secret of the Touto Film Making Centre (Part 2)
   * Episode 338: Four Porsches (Part 1)
   * Episode 339: Four Porsches (Part 2)
   * Episode 345: Head-to-Head Match With the Black Organization; Two Mysteries of the Night of the Full Moon (2.5 Hour Special)
   * Episode 425: Black Impact! The Moment the Black Organization Reaches Out! (2.5 Hour Special)
   * Episode 462: The Shadow of the Black Organization (The Young Witness)
   * Episode 492: Clash of Red and Black! Blood Relative
   * Episode 495: Clash of Red and Black! Coma
   * Episode 496: Clash of Red and Black! Invasion
   * Episode 497: Clash of Red and Black! Awakening
   * Episode 498: Clash of Red and Black! Disturbance
   * Episode 499: Clash of Red and Black! Camouflage
   * Episode 500: Clash of Red and Black! Testament
   * Episode 501: Clash of Red and Black! Suspicion
   * Episode 502: Clash of Red and Black! Innocence
   * Episode 503: Clash of Red and Black! Ready for Death
   * Episode 504: Clash of Red and Black! Death on Duty
   * Episode 507: The Blind Spot in the Karaoke Box (Part 1)
   * Episode 508: The Blind Spot in the Karaoke Box (Part 2)

I copied them from the dcw wiki

NICE! ^^

... i love you Shuuichi! *glomps*
can't you make a list with all chapters to? ^__^

[Shuuichi Akai]

Does anyone have an episode list of every single appreance Akai has made?

 

Spoiler:

   *  Episode 230: The Mysterious Passenger (Part 1)
   * Episode 231: The Mysterious Passenger (Part 2)
   * Episode 254: Metropolitan Police Detective Love Story 4 (Part 2)
   * Episode 259: The Man From Chicago (Part 2)
   * Episode 267: The Truth Behind Valentine's (The Reasoning)
   * Episode 269: The Forgotten Memento from the Crime (Part 1)
   * Episode 270: The Forgotten Memento from the Crime (Part 2)
   * Episode 271: Secret Rushed Omission (Part 1)
   * Episode 284: Chinatown Deja Vu in the Rain (Part 1)
   * Episode 285: Chinatown Deja Vu in the Rain (Part 2)
   * Episode 286: Shinichi Kudo's New York Case (The Case)
   * Episode 288: Shinichi Kudo's New York Case (The Resolution)
   * Episode 308: The Dark Footprint (Part 2)
   * Episode 309: Contact with the Black Organization (The Negotiation)
   * Episode 311: Contact with the Black Organization (The Desperation)
   * Episode 336: Secret of the Touto Film Making Centre (Part 2)
   * Episode 338: Four Porsches (Part 1)
   * Episode 339: Four Porsches (Part 2)
   * Episode 345: Head-to-Head Match With the Black Organization; Two Mysteries of the Night of the Full Moon (2.5 Hour Special)
   * Episode 425: Black Impact! The Moment the Black Organization Reaches Out! (2.5 Hour Special)
   * Episode 462: The Shadow of the Black Organization (The Young Witness)
   * Episode 492: Clash of Red and Black! Blood Relative
   * Episode 495: Clash of Red and Black! Coma
   * Episode 496: Clash of Red and Black! Invasion
   * Episode 497: Clash of Red and Black! Awakening
   * Episode 498: Clash of Red and Black! Disturbance
   * Episode 499: Clash of Red and Black! Camouflage
   * Episode 500: Clash of Red and Black! Testament
   * Episode 501: Clash of Red and Black! Suspicion
   * Episode 502: Clash of Red and Black! Innocence
   * Episode 503: Clash of Red and Black! Ready for Death
   * Episode 504: Clash of Red and Black! Death on Duty
   * Episode 507: The Blind Spot in the Karaoke Box (Part 1)
   * Episode 508: The Blind Spot in the Karaoke Box (Part 2)

I copied them from the dcw wiki

NICE! ^^

... i love you Shuuichi! *glomps*
can't you make a list with all chapters to? ^__^

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[Sherlock Edogawa]

For me Akai isn't dead.... even if I though the opposite when I red the manga n°59.... I was desperate.....XD
But now I think he isn't dead....

[sstimson]

Mod note: This post is a continuation of a debate that started here in Chekhov's theories about the plot. If you don't want to be confused and see what was presented previously, click the underlined link to start reading from the beginning. -Chekhov

I should not need to repeat myself, but as you either ignored or missed what I said. I repeat: Kir is there the whole time. What were happen either off camera or off screen she saw. I hope you are not going to suggest a mystery person can in off screen changed things and then left. Kir should be the one who did the changes.

I'm not sure what you are getting at. I already explained why the blood trails disappeared. There was a mystery person off screen who changed things, Akai. After Kir "shot" Akai and he fell down on the seat and played dead, the police began approaching. Gin told Kir to clean up, so Kir walked over to the bonnet of the truck to get the bomb ready. While she was doing that, the inside of the truck was not visible on camera. Akai took this moment to swap out Rikumichi's body which had no blood on the face and presumably hide himself wherever Rikumichi's body was before.
My original point was that there is no good way to explain why the blood trails disappeared if Akai really was killed and there was no one else but Kir at the scene.

But for question one. Point -  those show Kir still there. Maybe she feels bad about killing Him and it is her way of showing respect for him and the dead. Maybe she wished to clean him up a little before she set the bomb. Another place where action happen off screen, but As you have shown me these can be anything and as such mean little or nothing.

Let me add it is clear she does feel bad. Do you have any reason or proof it is not the above?

Yes, what I said in my previous post.

As I said before, there is no artistic evidence she touched Akai's face or head. If you reread that section, the only time she leaned in close was to plant the bomb, and when Hidemi planted the bomb, Akai was already switched. (The switch happened when Hidemi moved to the bonnet of the vehicle to fiddle with her detonator, taking her camera off Akai for a few moments.) Even supposing she did touch Akai, Gin and Vodka are watching the whole affair over camera. She isn't supposed to be showing sympathy for the enemy. That would raise suspicion from Gin. Also the police sirens started approaching the moment Kir finished the second shot. Are Gin and Vodka going to let her dawdle playing with Akai's head and wiping blood off when she needs to scram ASAP?

Spoiler: 609 pg 5

http://www.dctp.ws/V59-Reader/V59-1Read/A5.html

Also two more things. First Gin himself said "Clean up" He might have meant more then the Bomb, again respect for the now or soon to be Akai.

That's silly. Why would Gin want to show respect to his hated enemy when he is ordering that the body be bombed right afterwards? Also the police are coming, Gin doesn't want Kir to stick around where the police might come across the compromising scene and arrest her. She only barely got away from the scene in time. The police came right when she pulled away.

Second note where the bomb is set and remember the police report. Also remember that Gin is watching the whle time. Your changed events happened off screen while being seen by two people. Even if We do not know what happened off screen, they do. Anything Gin di not think 'normal' would have resulted it a bullet in her head. Also remember she shoot and killed her own father. You are not allowed to pick and choice, that since I like this character they must have faked their death. Gosho does kill characters for real. And we know he enjoys teasing his readers.With the bomb placed right by the head, then if he is only dying at the moment, then he will be dead when the bomb goes off.

I have no idea what any of this means. Can you make your point clearer? Do remember this is a mystery series where someone drops dead roughly every three chapters.

Also think about this for a moment. How many cars just blow up parked. Notice no attempt to make this look like an accident. It will be clear to anyone investigating this that there was a bomb involved, and unless you are going to tell me that Kir picked up the shell casings, then there is also evidence of a shoot as well. It will be clear to most that this BO ' cleanup' effor is very poor in Bo standards.

Of course the police are going to think it was a murder, but why would the Crow Corps need to make Akai's death look like a suicide? With Gin's approval, Akai was shot in the lung and the forehead and then his truck was detonated with plastic explosives. The cops are going to find plastic explosive residue, and they will notice the body has been shot twice in the aforementioned locations even if it was burnt. The police are going to to assume a murder, not a suicide. That doesn't matter to the Org. though. The Org. knows that it is unlikely the police have any data on Akai Shuuichi, so Akai's burnt body will likely go unidentified with no clues as to who murdered him or why. The FBI aren't going to tell the police because they were in the country investigating illegally. The investigation will dead end, just like the B.O. wants.
Remember the BO do not know that Rena is a spy. They have to come up with some kind of trap that Akai would easily walk into, so they don't have the luxury of freely choosing a location where they can control everything because Akai would get suspicious and not show. Also, the cops appeared unexpectedly. Maybe Gin had a better cleanup idea in mind originally, but he really didn't have the option since he was pressed for time.

And again if the are going to go to the trouble or both a gun and a bomb, which is overkill, why not do more to insure he is dead like a knife wound to the heart and poison?

Because it is unnecessary overkill. A gunshot to the forehead means the recipient is dead afterwards. As Kir so vividly put it later, "You [Gin] saw it yourself, didn't you? After I shot him, blood was pouring out of the back of his head..." (702 pg 2) There is no way someone with a wound like that could live, and Gin knows it, hence he was unable to come up with a rebuttal to Kir's point. Also the police were heading Kir's way. Kir barely made it out of there just taking the time needed to set up the bomb. Even if Gin wanted to make doubly sure, taking the time to stab and/or poison Akai would mean the police would catch up to Kir before she would escape and arrest her. That would kind of defeat the purpose.

You are guilty of wish casting. Just wanting someone alive does not make it so. After all It would be far easer to fake the death of Akeri and you insist she is dead.

I think the only thing I am guilty of making solid evidence-backed points.
You should give up the Akemi-is-alive thing. She died in Shinichi's arms. If there is anyone in the series who knows how to check if a person is actually dead or not, it's Shinichi. There is no evidence of a trick, none. I looked very carefully. The only way a trick could be played is if Gin killed someone else disguised as her and the person that dies in Conan's arms was not actually Akemi in the first place.

I am working on the above. But reasons for the last point.

Akemi is not a main character.
Akemi is very minor Bo Agent.
Akemi really only did that one thing.
Gin did not try to make sure she was dead.
Gin shot her once.
She was talking until help arrived.
Conan face at her 'death' shows conviction.

I way I see it is as follows. You believe that akai is alive, and Akemi is dead. For you the story is better that way. Now let examine Akai like I did Akemi

Akai is more of a main character then Akemi
Akai was an FBI mole in the BO.
We currently have no idea of the crimes he commited while with the BO but being given a Name like "Rye" suggest he must have commited more the Akemi
Gin not on scene, watching remotly, But does more to insure that Akai is dead ( see below )
Akai is shot twice and then blown up.
Akai was not talking when others arrived.
Conan not on scene.

Note a person dying from blood lose might be savable if new blood is added in time. As she have just 'died' this is possible. Yes We are given a possible lying note about her body and death, just like Akai. But the one who has no chance of living you say is  alive and the other who could have been helped is dead right?

Why do you not allow the possibility that Akemi knew what was going to happen, wore a bulletproof vest with a blood pack and faked her own death. She is not going to be seen again unless at the very end if I am right, and yes Conan knowing this is being mean to Hairaba, but that meanness is keeping her sister alive. She could easily be living in another country and we would never know.

All I am saying for now is you have this great conspiracy theory about Akai and refuse to allow another character who could have much easier faked her death to possible be alive. Also until Gosho puts it in his manga that Akai is alive, then the canon must be he is DEAD. All your sole call hints mean nothing until that happens.

[Kor]

All I am saying for now is you have this great conspiracy theory about Akai and refuse to allow another character who could have much easier faked her death to possible be alive. Also until Gosho puts it in his manga that Akai is alive, then the canon must be he is DEAD. All your sole call hints mean nothing until that happens.

By this logic, then Gosho did put in the manga that Akai is alive - scar Akai.




(for those who misunderstood, I don't claim that scar Akai is Akai)

[sstimson]

All I am saying for now is you have this great conspiracy theory about Akai and refuse to allow another character who could have much easier faked her death to possible be alive. Also until Gosho puts it in his manga that Akai is alive, then the canon must be he is DEAD. All your sole call hints mean nothing until that happens.

By this logic, then Gosho did put in the manga that Akai is alive - scar Akai.




(for those who misunderstood, I don't claim that scar Akai is Akai)

Again from my earlier post: I believe Scar Akai to a person likely working for either the FBI and CIA to trap members of the BO. When I think about it, the BO really has no reason to try and trap the FBI unless they believe Akai is alive, and if they did then why is Kir not dead. This leads me to believe that by using a dead Agent and a thorn in the BO's side, they are trying to trap Bo agents who might try to kill the Bait. Unfortunely, this might get Kir killed. Also of note, is this will not work if the Bo knows Akai is dead, which might be a reason for certain suggestion otherwise (Akai being Alive). Those certain actions are there to create doubt so that the Bo agents will take the bait and enter the trap.

[Kor]

All I am saying for now is you have this great conspiracy theory about Akai and refuse to allow another character who could have much easier faked her death to possible be alive. Also until Gosho puts it in his manga that Akai is alive, then the canon must be he is DEAD. All your sole call hints mean nothing until that happens.

By this logic, then Gosho did put in the manga that Akai is alive - scar Akai.




(for those who misunderstood, I don't claim that scar Akai is Akai)

Again from my earlier post: I believe Scar Akai to a person likely working for either the FBI and CIA to trap members of the BO. When I think about it, the BO really has no reason to try and trap the FBI unless they believe Akai is alive, and if they did then why is Kir not dead. This leads me to believe that by using a dead Agent and a thorn in the BO's side, they are trying to trap Bo agents who might try to kill the Bait. Unfortunely, this might get Kir killed. Also of note, is this will not work if the Bo knows Akai is dead, which might be a reason for certain suggestion otherwise (Akai being Alive). Those certain actions are there to create doubt so that the Bo agents will take the bait and enter the trap.

This makes no sense. Also, it goes against the "logic" you presented earlier.

Also, regarding you, thinking Akai isn't alive. Notice the (probably biggest) hint that Akai is still alive - Gin said that Bourbon doesn't believe Akai is really dead, and Gin also says that Bourbon hates Akai even more than he does.
Once such a statement was made in a work of fiction, the writer's true intentions are made clear. Akai is still alive, and Gosho plans for some sort of showdown between Akai and Bourbon (though to me it was clear before Gin made that statement).
WAIT! My bad. The biggest clue to why Akai is still alive is the sudden flashback/introduction for the romance between Jodie and Akai (which happened after Akai "died"). What's the point in suddenly mentioning something if Akai is dead? (I hope you're not gonna respond with "Gosho will pair Jodie with Camel")
We also gotta admit something else. Gosho's work is really cliched. Is it really beyond the reach of the imaginiation that he was going to do a "fake death" eventually.

Regarding your theory that Akemi is alive. It was the start of the series. Why to insert a "fake death" so soon? Also, there are no clues to point out her death was truly faked.
As much as I'd like to suddenly see Akemi back and Haibara runs to her and crying like a little girl while calling "Oneechan" over and over (it's Gosho, so we gotta keep it cheesy even in our imagination), I just don't see it happening. Akemi is more like a side character in the background of the organization, Akai, and Ai. Nothing more.

[sstimson]

All I am saying for now is you have this great conspiracy theory about Akai and refuse to allow another character who could have much easier faked her death to possible be alive. Also until Gosho puts it in his manga that Akai is alive, then the canon must be he is DEAD. All your sole call hints mean nothing until that happens.

By this logic, then Gosho did put in the manga that Akai is alive - scar Akai.




(for those who misunderstood, I don't claim that scar Akai is Akai)

Again from my earlier post: I believe Scar Akai to a person likely working for either the FBI and CIA to trap members of the BO. When I think about it, the BO really has no reason to try and trap the FBI unless they believe Akai is alive, and if they did then why is Kir not dead. This leads me to believe that by using a dead Agent and a thorn in the BO's side, they are trying to trap Bo agents who might try to kill the Bait. Unfortunely, this might get Kir killed. Also of note, is this will not work if the Bo knows Akai is dead, which might be a reason for certain suggestion otherwise (Akai being Alive). Those certain actions are there to create doubt so that the Bo agents will take the bait and enter the trap.

This makes no sense. Also, it goes against the "logic" you presented earlier.

Also, regarding you, thinking Akai isn't alive. Notice the (probably biggest) hint that Akai is still alive - Gin said that Bourbon doesn't believe Akai is really dead, and Gin also says that Bourbon hates Akai even more than he does.
Once such a statement was made in a work of fiction, the writer's true intentions are made clear. Akai is still alive, and Gosho plans for some sort of showdown between Akai and Bourbon (though to me it was clear before Gin made that statement).
WAIT! My bad. The biggest clue to why Akai is still alive is the sudden flashback/introduction for the romance between Jodie and Akai (which happened after Akai "died"). What's the point in suddenly mentioning something if Akai is dead? (I hope you're not gonna respond with "Gosho will pair Jodie with Camel")
We also gotta admit something else. Gosho's work is really cliched. Is it really beyond the reach of the imaginiation that he was going to do a "fake death" eventually.

Regarding your theory that Akemi is alive. It was the start of the series. Why to insert a "fake death" so soon? Also, there are no clues to point out her death was truly faked.
As much as I'd like to suddenly see Akemi back and Haibara runs to her and crying like a little girl while calling "Oneechan" over and over (it's Gosho, so we gotta keep it cheesy even in our imagination), I just don't see it happening. Akemi is more like a side character in the background of the organization, Akai, and Ai. Nothing more.

Why trap Bo agents. Lets see. They almost killed several people, bombed a hospital, scare or blackmail people for starters.

Setting a trap seem a good way to remove some if not all of the Bo threat.

As for using the Dead Agent Akai, again let see: He was a mole inside the BO and Bo decided to make sure he was very dead. The Bo not only shot him not just once, but twice and then blow him up for good measure. It seem the BO wanted to make sure he was with out question dead.

But if you are going to use Akai as bait for the trap, then the BO must think that the thorn is back, and you must convince them that the person they know they killed is alive. After all if there are no doubts in the Bo's mind about Akai being dead, then why would they think your planted Akai is the real thing. They would know it is a trap and be very careful to avoid it.

The stuff you mentioned shows the plan to get the BO who should know Akai is DEAD as they killed him, to doubt this and somehow start to think that his death was faked. This will get Kir killed, as the BO will think she 'faked' his death.

Unfortunaly for the planers Conan inferred with the first trap and set it up so the plant Akai could get away. This prevented the bait for being taken as I am sure it would have been if Conan had not interfered, and possibly a few members of the BO would have fallen in the trap and been either killed or arrested.

Maybe next time the planners will find a way to prevent Conan from freeing the bait.

[PT]

Again from my earlier post: I believe Scar Akai to a person likely working for either the FBI and CIA to trap members of the BO. When I think about it, the BO really has no reason to try and trap the FBI unless they believe Akai is alive, and if they did then why is Kir not dead. This leads me to believe that by using a dead Agent and a thorn in the BO's side, they are trying to trap Bo agents who might try to kill the Bait. Unfortunely, this might get Kir killed. Also of note, is this will not work if the Bo knows Akai is dead, which might be a reason for certain suggestion otherwise (Akai being Alive). Those certain actions are there to create doubt so that the Bo agents will take the bait and enter the trap.

If this is true, then the FBI/CIA is knowingly putting their contact inside the BO at risk. Why would they do that? If any of the BO members get in their heads that Akai really is alive, then Kir would be killed pretty much instantly. It doesn't sense for them to try to draw out the BO that way, when they could still be getting inside information from Kir.

Just my two cents on that.

[Abs.]

"LOL let's have the BO kill both one of our own agents AND the CIA guy on the inside LOL  It's okay it's a TRAP LOL"

[Kor]

Again from my earlier post: I believe Scar Akai to a person likely working for either the FBI and CIA to trap members of the BO. When I think about it, the BO really has no reason to try and trap the FBI unless they believe Akai is alive, and if they did then why is Kir not dead. This leads me to believe that by using a dead Agent and a thorn in the BO's side, they are trying to trap Bo agents who might try to kill the Bait. Unfortunely, this might get Kir killed. Also of note, is this will not work if the Bo knows Akai is dead, which might be a reason for certain suggestion otherwise (Akai being Alive). Those certain actions are there to create doubt so that the Bo agents will take the bait and enter the trap.

If this is true, then the FBI/CIA is knowingly putting their contact inside the BO at risk. Why would they do that? If any of the BO members get in their heads that Akai really is alive, then Kir would be killed pretty much instantly. It doesn't sense for them to try to draw out the BO that way, when they could still be getting inside information from Kir.

Just my two cents on that.

It also puts many other innocent people at risk.

[PT]

"LOL let's have the BO kill both one of our own agents AND the CIA guy on the inside LOL  It's okay it's a TRAP LOL"

Exactly.

Again from my earlier post: I believe Scar Akai to a person likely working for either the FBI and CIA to trap members of the BO. When I think about it, the BO really has no reason to try and trap the FBI unless they believe Akai is alive, and if they did then why is Kir not dead. This leads me to believe that by using a dead Agent and a thorn in the BO's side, they are trying to trap Bo agents who might try to kill the Bait. Unfortunely, this might get Kir killed. Also of note, is this will not work if the Bo knows Akai is dead, which might be a reason for certain suggestion otherwise (Akai being Alive). Those certain actions are there to create doubt so that the Bo agents will take the bait and enter the trap.

If this is true, then the FBI/CIA is knowingly putting their contact inside the BO at risk. Why would they do that? If any of the BO members get in their heads that Akai really is alive, then Kir would be killed pretty much instantly. It doesn't sense for them to try to draw out the BO that way, when they could still be getting inside information from Kir.

Just my two cents on that.

It also puts many other innocent people at risk.

Plus, it's just a generally risky, pretty-much-guaranteed-to-fail plan all around. The BO isn't gonna jump out of hiding the second they see Scar Akai to kill him. They're better at what they do than that.

[sstimson]

Plus, it's just a generally risky, pretty-much-guaranteed-to-fail plan all around. The BO isn't gonna jump out of hiding the second they see Scar Akai to kill him. They're better at what they do than that.

@Phenix - and yet that is what would have happened if Conan had not interfered. They were setting up shoters

You are forgetting that just by being a mole is putting your life at rick.

As for the other the plant is very well protected and again, if I can get most the the Bo, is it worth the sacrifice of maybe a few agents.

When is it time to stopping watching and act? When is it time to stop collecting information and us what you got to bring some members to justice. Do you allow the terrorist to bomb while you learn about how they bomb?