Ai + Conan

[Atraos]

Hi Guys! This would be my first post in this forum.
I was reading this thread and I learned that there's less and less Conan and Ai moments after ep 345 in the more recent chapters? Is this true? I hope not cause this is really depressing as a HUUUGE Conan/Ai fan. I wanna know what you guys think about this

Ive been a DC fan since i was 10, I am 21 now. I stopped watching 6 years ago but I recently re-watched everything until 345. And im loving all these CoAi moments, it would be difficult for me to explain how much I like them as a couple, but basically it's my dream for them to end up together haha.

Anyway I had high hopes that there would be at least a small chance of them ending up together (even if it's quite obvious that Ran is his main girl) for several reasons.


1. Gosho Aoyama : I had this idea that the reason why DC is taking so long is because it would take a long time in order to successfully develop their feelings for each other. (But apparently not according to the things ive read recently)
- I had this idea because I learned that Haibara is actually Gosho's favorite character to draw, and one of his favorite episodes is the "bus hijacking episode" (which is clearly one of the most touchig Conan/Ai moments). Then I thought it would make sense that he would like Haibara to be Conans main girl. But apparently not...

2. Fans : Even though Conan/Ai and Shinichi/Ran fans are almost just as equally match in terms of number. I actually think Conan/Ai fans are more "reasonable and passionate". I don't know the exact words to use, but to me it seems like Conan/Ai fans have better way of expressing why they want this couple. It's like they really feel the chemistry and development between them, if you read comments and threads there are a million reaspns why fans want them together. Unlike Ran/Shinichi fans, to me their reasons are are somewhat shallow, and they dont seem to be as passionate, most of the time it's just "it started between Shinichi and Ran, it should end with them because they're cute together" and stuff like that.

I have a feeling that Aoyama wants fans to be pleased so he'll make a happy ending of Ran and Shinichi ending up together since it seems like more people want this couple. But if you think about it, most of these fans haven't watched a lot of episodes especially those with Haibara and Conan. I think it's only natural to like Shin/ran couple if you're just a casual watcher. I really hope Gosho considers this.

3. Conan himself : I never thought that they would show on the anime that Conan likes Haibara.
But even the smallest things gave me hopes. (i am not saying that Conan likes Haibara because of this, for me they are just merely hints that there's chance that Conan would be developed to her).
- In movie 4 when Haibara jokingly confessed to Conan, you would be able to see that Conan actually blushed.
It's a very small blush but you'll notice it if you watch closely.
- in episode 414 (i just saw this particular scene in youtube) Conan also blushed after Haibara joked about both of them hanging out late.

And of course, to my disappointment. Turns out both of these scenes aren't canon. If you guys know any other scene where Conan blushed cause of Haibara please let me know

Anyway, like other fans out there even if it's highly unlikely. Im still hoping.

First off: welcome to the forum!

Always great to have a fellow Co/Ai fan in here. I'm afraid, that after 345, Co/Ai pretty much drops off the map completely except for a few teasers, mostly from the anime team in the form of movie scenes, scenes in AOs and anime openings. In fact, looking back, It seems to me that the tone started to shift a lot after 345, I guess because Gosho's vision changed and he became long winded with the Kir arc that flowed into the Bourbon arc and is still going..... But don't let that stop you from watching, I'm a little bit cynical when it comes to pre/post-345 conan

Re 2. Please don't compare/stereotype fans of the pairings, this will just lead to flame wars and animosity, which the DCTP forums so far have mostly avoided. Heck, just the fact that both Pairing threads are still open and have that many posts, is a testament to that. Just keep it to discussing the pairings without bashing them, a character or the fans of the two.

That said, like most of use here, I definitely find Co/Ai more interesting, but I don't have any hope for the pairing anymore and mostly want proper closure for the pairing, because I don't think the subplot moved anywhere after 345, but maybe, you come to a different conclusion, when you catch up, again, don't let my cynicism infect you .

[Silverbullet96]

2. Fans : Even though Conan/Ai and Shinichi/Ran fans are almost just as equally match in terms of number. I actually think Conan/Ai fans are more "reasonable and passionate". I don't know the exact words to use, but to me it seems like Conan/Ai fans have better way of expressing why they want this couple. It's like they really feel the chemistry and development between them, if you read comments and threads there are a million reaspns why fans want them together. Unlike Ran/Shinichi fans, to me their reasons are are somewhat shallow, and they dont seem to be as passionate, most of the time it's just "it started between Shinichi and Ran, it should end with them because they're cute together" and stuff like that.

^^To the guy above me, I don't think this is tossing some garbage on ShinRan fans, but they do seem to be somewhat immature, not saying that ShinRan shouldn't happen because of this, but the thing is that I also believe that many of them will go on to become CoAi fans in the future, just like me.

[Mario2000]

I apologize for posting this in an Ai/Conan thread, but it's quite offensive to call ShinRan fans immature and their reasons shallow. You just can't understand the tenderness of the bonds between childhood sweethearts. You are talking about "chemistry", then I think no way the chemistry between people who met as adults or late teens can have the same degree of tenderness and sweetness as the chemistry between people who have the innocence of childhood to share together.
I apologize if this seems disrespectful towards pairings which formed as adults, but I am just tired of people being condescending towards Shin/Ran. If they don't want this to happen because they like Ai, I understand, but please don't pretend ShinRan is shallow or badly written. I am not an Ai fan, but I respect the character and acknowledge its complexity at least, be respectful towards Ran as well.

[Gentaphoenix]

I don't mind Ai+ Conan. If it became canon I would support it just like I support ShinRan.

It's all a matter of interpretation anyway, NO ONE IS WRONG for shipping anybody- I encourage shipping but to a certain extent.

ShinRan has in my opinion more canonical evidence of their love, so that's why I ship them.
Ai+Conan requires deeper interpretation of events at the moment, which is perfectly alright.

I don't watch much anime/ read much manga and most of the British and American Television shows I have seen do not have childhood friends become lovers. I would say that the AiConan relationship occurs more often.

[JeffBeck]

First of all I want to apologize to anyone I've offended. Althought I agree with Silverbullet96, I wasn't exactly bashing with my post. I was merely stating my observation and comparison. But since someone didn't like it, like said I'm apologizing. I'll be more careful with my posts next time.

Anyway back to the thread, to me it's more interesting to see a relationship that developed throughout the series than a "lovey dovey" one that started from day one. I find it "cuter" (it sounds gay but I can't think of a better word right now) when they're teasing each other and stuff, rather than the usual things Ran and Shinichi does. Again this is just my opinion, I don't think there's a reason to argue about this.

[char13happy]

My take right now on ConAi is simple and I'm fairly sure that a few will have to agree with me. I forgot who originally posted this though.

ConAi friendship > ShinRan relationship

(Because a friendship where one treats each other as equals has a greater advantage.)

[kkslider5552000]

to be fair, easily the vast majority of things in Conan > ShinRan relationship since the Bourbon arc started.

although that is a plus for ConAi fans because a healthy relationship should be more important regardless!

thank god I put in my ballot to ShinRan with as much apathy as possible, or else I'd be annoyed.

[XCrownLessKingX]

Is there even a chance of aixconan

[AICHAN]

Is there even a chance of aixconan

I don't think so,Gosho said in an interview it's impossible.
But that won't stop us from being Aicon fans their interactions are so great to watch,so I don't really care if in the end they don't end up together,as friends they are better than most of the canon pairings in DC.

[XCrownLessKingX]

True its just that I got fed up with ran not saying she is a bad character she has potential to be a good one I just feel like ran and shinichi relationship is a bit forced

[JeffBeck]

Is there even a chance of aixconan

I don't think so,Gosho said in an interview it's impossible.
But that won't stop us from being Aicon fans their interactions are so great to watch,so I don't really care if in the end they don't end up together,as friends they are better than most of the canon pairings in DC.

Hi! In what interview did Gosho say this. I want to read it.
This is the most heartbreaking thing ever. Even though it's very unlikely to happen, Im still hoping. (For some reasons)

[AICHAN]

Is there even a chance of aixconan

I don't think so,Gosho said in an interview it's impossible.
But that won't stop us from being Aicon fans their interactions are so great to watch,so I don't really care if in the end they don't end up together,as friends they are better than most of the canon pairings in DC.

Hi! In what interview did Gosho say this. I want to read it.
This is the most heartbreaking thing ever. Even though it's very unlikely to happen, Im still hoping. (For some reasons)

I'll try to find it but IIRC it was from one of the super digest book,or a conan drill.

Edit:apparently it's from the Conan fan book(april 2004),page 75.

I personally found that information in that website(but it's in French)
http://naniwa.e-monsite.com/pages/dossi ... ler.html#5
Someone said to Gosho that many fans are expecting something from the AixConan pairing,and Gosho answers:"ahhh impossible!"


anyway sometimes Gosho changes his mind and doesn't respect what he said during these interviews,so I guess there is always a little bit of hope.

[XCrownLessKingX]

But i can not see y it is impossible most of the couples in DC r childhood friends and just because u know someone a long time does mean u should always become there lover

[char13happy]

It is bordering on impossible because Shinichi's feelings are dead set on being with Ran and vice versa.
I can see the possibility of Ran being jealous if Ai goes back to being Shiho and assists Shinichi on investigations, though. It's one of my favorite headcanons. :p

[AICHAN]

It is bordering on impossible because Shinichi's feelings are dead set on being with Ran and vice versa.
I can see the possibility of Ran being jealous if Ai goes back to being Shiho and assists Shinichi on investigations, though. It's one of my favorite headcanons. :p

Well it was like that during the Live action movie 2

Anyway Gosho sucks with romance and pairings,he writes childhood love stories because it's easier,so I guess he's too lazy to develop the coai relationship in a good way.