Discussion Thread: Detective Conan Files 818-824 "Mystery Tr

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mihai wrote: I think I'll follow Conan's example and buy an Xperikan myself :), the Arc S model.
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Does someone have that phone and can you tell me if I'm making a good choice(smartphone under 300$)?
where do you lives?

it's pretty solid phone
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rrizqiw wrote: where do you lives?

it's pretty solid phone
well, my brother just showed it to me on amazon at around 270$ and remembered Conan had an Xperikan as well:)
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mihai wrote:
rrizqiw wrote: where do you lives?

it's pretty solid phone
well, my brother just showed it to me on amazon at around 270$ and remembered Conan had an Xperikan as well:)
just do some quick glace. assuming you buy unlocked version. i think you make a good choice since it pretty much the best not-used phone for that range.

other option probably smaller Xperia U
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my savings amount to around 400$ so I would be spending 75% of them on the phone. While I liked the design of the Arc S, I also found LG Optimus 2X at 230-240$ similar in size and performance and with dual-core CPU. I guess I'll just keep looking for now since Conan is on break this week :)
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mihai wrote: my savings amount to around 400$ so I would be spending 75% of them on the phone. While I liked the design of the Arc S, I also found LG Optimus 2X at 230-240$ similar in size and performance and with dual-core CPU. I guess I'll just keep looking for now since Conan is on break this week :)
my suggestion dont buy LG.

they are bad
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rrizqiw wrote:
mihai wrote: my savings amount to around 400$ so I would be spending 75% of them on the phone. While I liked the design of the Arc S, I also found LG Optimus 2X at 230-240$ similar in size and performance and with dual-core CPU. I guess I'll just keep looking for now since Conan is on break this week :)
my suggestion dont buy LG.

they are bad
True...all my LG phones broke quickly.
But I don't think it is the right topic to talk about cellphones.
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If Bourbon's true mission (or personal mission) was to find out if Akai is really dead, then maybe he wanted to keep Sherry alive because he suspects that she may be in contact with Akai...

And the reason behind Bourbon's hatred for Akai *may* have something to do with the late Date-san? though I suspect it is at least partly to do with Akemi as well.
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or maybe because they were just rivals (and Akai was better) and because Akai got codename before him?
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AICHAN wrote:but at least that show that Amuro is more human than the other BO members,which make me think that maybe he will join Conan's team in the future(if he give up on killing Akai of course).
That's what I'm actually hoping for.  I still can't find myself disliking Amuro at all. I said it before many pages ago in this thread..... Amuro really makes a great detective with awesome hacking skills.  I just can't see himself being "cold-blooded" or be "evil". Compared to those two more *cough* evil-looking sinister BO guys, who were waiting at the train station, Amuro is definitely a gentleman to me.  

So, it would be cool for me to see Akai and Amuro/Bourbon actually team up, somehow...  Much better than seeing a revenge-type of story as I'm super tired of those.  

(And heh....  My predictions have come true, nonetheless. Team Conan now has two "dead" people behind him.  If Amuro fakes his own death, I could change Team Conan's name to Team Ghost!  Ghost protocol....)  

Edit: And I just remembered....  Amuro mentioned a helicopter when speaking to Kid. .........  What helicopter!? What colleagues!?  Hence, I'm suspicious here...  :D
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mysterygirl wrote:

So, it would be cool for me to see Akai and Amuro/Bourbon actually team up, somehow...  Much better than seeing a revenge-type of story as I'm super tired of those. 
Amuro is such a good character,I really like him,I don't want him to die or to leave,so yeah seeing Akai and Amuro team up is a dream for me.They would be so cool together.
I'm also tired of the revenge thing,we had enouth of that with Vermouth/Ai,and Gin/Akai.
So I'm ready to see something new,since Amuro is different from any other BO members.
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Adding to what mysterygirl said, Vermouth and Gin never mentioned further colleagues about so it could easily be the accomplices Amuro had in the helicopter weren't BO at all. Especially as Gin and Vermouth wanted Sherry dead and so wouldn't have prepared a helicopter to get her out alive. It seems Amuro has some other agenda with backing from another group of people with loads of money. Not that the 'different agenda' thing is a surprise for a BO member :P.
EDIT: In fact, the way he points his gun at who he thinks is Vermouth and says he'll be taking her 'with him' backs that up imo...
2nd EDIT: Also, read this page under the assumption that Amuro wants to take Sherry away for an unknown group. Stuff like his reaction to the explosives being "?!" and him saying he may have to get rough with her... why would he do that if he wanted her to die? He'd just leave her there, mission completed; but instead he may need to 'get rough' with her to... what exactly? It could be to capture her, but he knows the BO will probably kill her anyway so there's no reason to get her safe away from the explosives just for her to be killed afterwards, is there?
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mysterygirl wrote: Edit: And I just remembered....  Amuro mentioned a helicopter when speaking to Kid. .........  What helicopter!? What colleagues!?   Hence, I'm suspicious here...  :D
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Amuro's plan was to knock out Shiho, detach the luggage car with a small bomb, and Shiho's car would be stuck on the tracks where some lackeys in a helicopter would come and pick her up alive but unconscious. Vermouth modified the plan so that she would blow up the entire luggage car to kill Shiho when she heard the sound of the small car detaching explosion. No helicopter seems to have appeared so far, so it is unclear whether Vermouth did the arranging and lied to Amuro, Vermouth overrode Amuro's plan later (seniority or impersonating him), or a helicopter really was en route.

That said, if there really was a helicopter, Kaito Kid does run the risk of being seen as he got away with his glider. Also, I doubt the BO would use a military helicopter as shown in M13. It would be too conspicuous, more recognizable, less maneuverable, and heavier than a small chopper like they use for news reporting. (Or they could use a larger one like they use for medical lifts as extra disguise because one might be expected in the area after an explosion like that [although not that quickly])
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Hmm... yeah, that makes more sense, though I still don't get why Amuro wants to save Sherry.

However, 'cause I found the last train of though interesting, I'll just continue on with it, even if I don't really believe in it fully myself XD.

So, first thing, do any of the other BO members ever mention the helicopter? Amuro is the only one who seems to be saying that and he could easily be lying to make it easier for Sherry to co-operate. And why wouldn't Gin be aboard any helicopter considering he likely wants to see Sherry captured/dead in front of his own eyes to make sure there are no tricks :x.
Which brings me onto this, if all the BO agents are waiting at Nagoya for Sherry to be flushed out, how much are they aware of the various plans going on? Vermouth might not've told the BO about Amuro's plan of getting Sherry out before Nagoya because it suited her purpose. It'd be easier for her to hurry up the plan and get Sherry killed without BO agents prepared at other stops, who could possibly interfere on behalf of Gin (who would probably want a hand in Sherry's death himself).
Also, why would a helicopter be needed? If the original plan was to separate the carriages the station before Nagoya then cars would be cheaper and draw less attention to themselves. In fact, it could be that they had cars prepared for that purpose at Nagoya. A helicopter would make sense though, if Amuro planned to escape the BO a stop before, but was afraid of Vermouth pursuing him.
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As Amuro had no idea about Vermouth's plan, maybe he simply hadn't contacted the chopper crew yet.
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El Huesudo II wrote: As Amuro had no idea about Vermouth's plan, maybe he simply hadn't contacted the chopper crew yet.
He said to Sherry his colleagues were following the train.
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