That's 4 am! :Vpofa wrote:It will make more sense once we start.miakakiri wrote: Er....OK..... *still confused, mostly because she's never played before*Basically, you can only use your actions on people who are on the numbered list.
And since nobody has complained about the phase change time, it's officially 9:00 PM US Central Time (see first post for timezone conversion).
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....try 10 PM.Yurikochan wrote: Since I think I'm an hour ahead of you I think its 8 PM for me.![]()
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*doesn't know what she's thinking of*PhoenixTears wrote:....try 10 PM.Yurikochan wrote: Since I think I'm an hour ahead of you I think its 8 PM for me.![]()
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*laughs* Yeah, 9 Central is 10 Eastern, Yuri-chan. It's good to be able to keep track of which direction that one-hour difference goes. n.n Guess I have it easy because my brother lives on Central time...
I have finally started to actually publish my story! For the moment, expect a new chapter each month.
The Case of the Midnight Channel
"When a strange letter summons the Mouri family to Inaba, Ran is expecting a case. She's not expecting it to involve the TV, though.
If Naoto investigated everyone who came to visit Inaba, she'd have little time for real cases. When Yukiko reports that the Midnight Channel is back, however, she starts to wonder if the visitors are connected. Especially when the image clears, unveiling yet another mystery."
If Naoto investigated everyone who came to visit Inaba, she'd have little time for real cases. When Yukiko reports that the Midnight Channel is back, however, she starts to wonder if the visitors are connected. Especially when the image clears, unveiling yet another mystery."
Short version: I'm taking various DC/MK characters to Inaba (where Persona 4 takes place) and dropping them through the TV to face their Shadows!
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pofa wrote:I figured that needed to be addressed before I get kill orders for xpon on Night 1. (Or, if DT ends up BO, lynch orders for xpon on Night 1.)


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Eww, why does Takagi have glasses now?
He only wore them once as part of a disguise, so he shouldn't have that item. Yeah, it makes him differently from Chiba a bit. But him and Chiba having stake-out, which feels worse than investigate most of the time (and no other special abilities like the other police roles) makes them already the least useful police. Well, I guess at least it makes it harder for the BO to figure out Tome when they steal glasses from a character that they know from is a police.
Still, I don't like the change. Just like Mitsuhiko should not suddenly get glasses, because he used Conans tracking glasses during one or two cases. Even if it would make him different from Genta (who has identical abilities and items as well).
Before forcing items like this on characters where they don't fit, I would rather introduce new items. Like for example... snacks. (Obvious carriers for them would be Genta and Chiba. And it would be easier to justify giving them to other characters as well - like everyone which has a stoutly build (Megure, Agasa, Vodka, Jirokichi (does that poor guy really have to have a gem taken from him every time?), etc.) or characters where it seems fitting (Eri, Asami, Sonoko, Heiji, Kazuha, Okuda, etc.).
Just what I think about it. I don't think we really need a new item anyway. Because it just reduces the chance to steal the "unique" items the BO will be looking for...
He only wore them once as part of a disguise, so he shouldn't have that item. Yeah, it makes him differently from Chiba a bit. But him and Chiba having stake-out, which feels worse than investigate most of the time (and no other special abilities like the other police roles) makes them already the least useful police. Well, I guess at least it makes it harder for the BO to figure out Tome when they steal glasses from a character that they know from is a police.
Still, I don't like the change. Just like Mitsuhiko should not suddenly get glasses, because he used Conans tracking glasses during one or two cases. Even if it would make him different from Genta (who has identical abilities and items as well).
Before forcing items like this on characters where they don't fit, I would rather introduce new items. Like for example... snacks. (Obvious carriers for them would be Genta and Chiba. And it would be easier to justify giving them to other characters as well - like everyone which has a stoutly build (Megure, Agasa, Vodka, Jirokichi (does that poor guy really have to have a gem taken from him every time?), etc.) or characters where it seems fitting (Eri, Asami, Sonoko, Heiji, Kazuha, Okuda, etc.).
Just what I think about it. I don't think we really need a new item anyway. Because it just reduces the chance to steal the "unique" items the BO will be looking for...

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A reminder to all new player and specially to sherlock and breva.
Never trust others 100%
why? because of this:
- Vermouth and Irish will disguise as townie!
- If that player claim prove an ability, he can be BO. such as : Gin ( investigating ), Korn / Chianti (stake out / observe) Vodka ( discombobulated) or he can be any other BO that using black suitcase
- even if that person is proven by DB, he/she can be a 2 side lover with a BO
so only trust your fellow DB ( if you are DB)
or your lover (if you are lover)
other then that.. trust no one!
Never trust others 100%
why? because of this:
- Vermouth and Irish will disguise as townie!
- If that player claim prove an ability, he can be BO. such as : Gin ( investigating ), Korn / Chianti (stake out / observe) Vodka ( discombobulated) or he can be any other BO that using black suitcase
- even if that person is proven by DB, he/she can be a 2 side lover with a BO
so only trust your fellow DB ( if you are DB)
or your lover (if you are lover)
other then that.. trust no one!
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Look who is talking.xpon wrote: A reminder to all new player and specially to sherlock and breva.
Never trust others 100%
why? because of this:
- Vermouth and Irish will disguise as townie!
- If that player claim prove an ability, he can be BO. such as : Gin ( investigating ), Korn / Chianti (stake out / observe) Vodka ( discombobulated) or he can be any other BO that using black suitcase
- even if that person is proven by DB, he/she can be a 2 side lover with a BO
so only trust your fellow DB ( if you are DB) or your lover (if you are lover)
other then that.. trust no one!

Just wondering? Can DBs be lovers now? Or how should I understand the last "hint" instead? Beside, you can also trust Sonoko if she befriended you. Or if you are Sonoko you can trust your BFF if he/she is a role than Vermouth can't disguise as.

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well, sherlock and breva did trust me.. and i hope they dont trust anyone too easily!.. 
and yeah.. sonoko is trusted for townie but a nightmare to BO now!
i would love to be sonoko again..
not in round 7

and yeah.. sonoko is trusted for townie but a nightmare to BO now!
i would love to be sonoko again..
not in round 7
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oh oh oh i'm in!!
just wondering because i'm a clueless freak..
when you want to ally with ppl...
do you just pm them like: "i got this info, what do you have?"
or how do you do it?
just wondering because i'm a clueless freak..
when you want to ally with ppl...
do you just pm them like: "i got this info, what do you have?"
or how do you do it?
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@glasses: I think it's ok for takagi. They should stay. Since it's in order to balance it. Reasons were stated in the mafia discussion thread :x
Well, new items. I think snacks is toooo general. Since every character had snacks once in his live.
And those items should have a larger range. Since School book is already almost just for town players. While all other items are kinda in the inventory of BO and Town. While Gun and Alcohol is an item that almost every BO has.
For your example for the snacks, just Vodka would have it. Maybe even 1 or 2 more BOs. But 90% of those would be for town-roles. And I don't think we need to add items that are almost just for one side available. (since we already have those)
Well, new items. I think snacks is toooo general. Since every character had snacks once in his live.
And those items should have a larger range. Since School book is already almost just for town players. While all other items are kinda in the inventory of BO and Town. While Gun and Alcohol is an item that almost every BO has.
For your example for the snacks, just Vodka would have it. Maybe even 1 or 2 more BOs. But 90% of those would be for town-roles. And I don't think we need to add items that are almost just for one side available. (since we already have those)
DBs can't be lovers. I think what xpon meant was, that if you prove someone as Akai with identify, then that player is Akai for 100%. But you can't know if that Akai is lovers with Gin for example :xSchillok wrote:Look who is talking.xpon wrote: A reminder to all new player and specially to sherlock and breva.
Never trust others 100%
why? because of this:
- Vermouth and Irish will disguise as townie!
- If that player claim prove an ability, he can be BO. such as : Gin ( investigating ), Korn / Chianti (stake out / observe) Vodka ( discombobulated) or he can be any other BO that using black suitcase
- even if that person is proven by DB, he/she can be a 2 side lover with a BO
so only trust your fellow DB ( if you are DB) or your lover (if you are lover)
other then that.. trust no one!
Just wondering? Can DBs be lovers now? Or how should I understand the last "hint" instead? Beside, you can also trust Sonoko if she befriended you. Or if you are Sonoko you can trust your BFF if he/she is a role than Vermouth can't disguise as.

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@glasses: I don't really see a need to "rebalance" anything about their items. And even if there was, it should not be done by giving him an item that he just does not have. Takagi does not wear glasses.
If you really wanted to make Takagi and Chiba have different items, then removing an item from one of them (car keys, since I don't think any of them OWNS a car) would probably the better choice.
Again: I don't think there is a need for anything to be fixed here, because there are characters that have the same items (and even abilities) and as far as I know there hasn't been a problem with it yet. And if we change something we should have it stay in-canon.
@snacks: We wouldn't have to give them to every possible character out there. Just because we saw Eri drink wine before doesn't mean she got alcohol as an item, did she? If there was really a balance problem it could best be fixed by a "generic item" that could to almost anyone but that only has a few characters where it feels like they must have it.
The first thing I thought of that could differentiate Chiba and Genta from Takagi and Mitsuhuko was "something to eat". There could be better items though to are a bit easier to give them to roles that we know hardly anything about like the BO members.
If you really wanted to make Takagi and Chiba have different items, then removing an item from one of them (car keys, since I don't think any of them OWNS a car) would probably the better choice.
Again: I don't think there is a need for anything to be fixed here, because there are characters that have the same items (and even abilities) and as far as I know there hasn't been a problem with it yet. And if we change something we should have it stay in-canon.
@snacks: We wouldn't have to give them to every possible character out there. Just because we saw Eri drink wine before doesn't mean she got alcohol as an item, did she? If there was really a balance problem it could best be fixed by a "generic item" that could to almost anyone but that only has a few characters where it feels like they must have it.
The first thing I thought of that could differentiate Chiba and Genta from Takagi and Mitsuhuko was "something to eat". There could be better items though to are a bit easier to give them to roles that we know hardly anything about like the BO members.
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But it's still easier and less de-balancing other characters if you give him glasses. I don't see a problem here game wise. It's just that you don't like it because it's not "canon". But you also argued with other things before, that not everything has to be 100% canon.

I for example usually ask: "Want an alliance?" and don't say any info yet.
If I can investigate or have an ability that can't narrow you down, I sometimes say that I can investigate or do another ability. Tho I don't do that so much anymore since people don't want an alliance with me. Which means I gave them info without getting anything back :x
There are some "types" (this is exaggerated a lot :x)
"Ally me! Or die!" - type:
Xpon
Xpon: "Ally me!"
Player: "Hm... I'm not sure."
Xpon: "Ally me pleaaasseee!~ T_T You can totally trust me!"
Player: :V
*Player dies on Night 1 by Xpon*
Detective Tommy
DT: "Let's make an alliance!"
Player: "Ok!"
DT: "Why did you do this and that/What's your ability/etc.?"
Player: "Can't tell you, sorry D:"
DT: "You don't tell me! You're BO! D:" *DT lynches Player*
Strategic-type:
Schillok
Schillok: "I used a ability on you and came to the result that you're more likely town than BO. I either:
a) stole from you an item that a lot of townspeople have
b) interrogated you and got "not BO"
c) observed you
d) ...
.
.
.
z) used this and that and got to this conclusion
So, want an alliance? Tho I don't trust you completely yet."
Player: "O.o" Uh... sure?"
*Schillok dies on the next phase*
Player: "Noo~ My ally! D:"
Dus
Dus: "Let's play a game. Since I'm noctural
"
Player: "What? D:"
Dus: "ahem... I mean... let's play a game where you have to answer 3 questions about your role. You have to lie for one, tell the truth and you not answer for another one. We take turns, so everyone get's questions and answers"
Player: "Oh, sure! Sounds good!
"
*player get's APTXed by Dus*
Paranoid-type (and kinda tsundere?!):
Akonyl, Abs., PhoenixTears
Player: "Want to ally?
"
AAP: "No. Never ever. Go away! ...But... if you have information, I don't mind hearing it....."
Crazy-type:
TheBlind
TheBlind: "*put crazy theory in here*"
Player: "Huh... what? O.o" "
TheBlind: ";D"
Cute-type:
Nomemory
Nomemory:
Player: ".... <3 I'll follow you to the end of the world!!!"
Nomemory:
Idle-type:
Parkur
Night 1: Player sends Parkur a PM
Day 1
Night 2
Day 2
Night 3
Day 3
Night 4: Parkur answers
Shy/hiding-type:
Commi-Ninja
Player: "Want an alliance?"
Commi: *hides*
Player: "Uhm... hello?"
Commi: "Hmmmm..."
Player: "Uhh...?"
Commi: "Maybe." *commi vanishes into the darkness*
Player: "Damn ninjas D:"
Secretly-being-lynched-type
Pofa
Pofa: "Good. I got 2 trusted allies now"
Other players: "Pofa is totally BO. Being all secretly and silent! Besides, we don't have any other lead anyway :x" *other players lynched pofa*
Pofa: "Noooo~! D:"
Dangerous-combo:
Kain + Edogawa
Player allied Kain and Edogawa.
Player PMs Kain and Edogawa and goes away for 5 min.
Player returns and sees 120 new PMs in the inbox
Player: "Holy sh.... D:"
"Being rejected"-type:
Kleene Onigiri
Kleene Onigiri: "Want to ally me? :3"
Player 1: "No."
Kleene Onigiri: "Want to ally me? :3"
Player 2: "No, sorry"
Kleene Onigiri: "Want to ally me? :V"
Player 3: "Uh... maybe later..."
Kleene Onigiri: "Want to ally me?"
Player 4: "No."
Kleene Onigiri: "Want to ally me? D:"
Player 5: " Never! You're BO!"
Kleene Onigiri: "Want to ally me? T_T"
Xpon: "Nope."
Kleene Onigiri: "Whaaaaaaaat?! :V"
People do it differently. And it also kinda depends what role you got and which side you're on of courseshihokudo wrote: oh oh oh i'm in!!
just wondering because i'm a clueless freak..
when you want to ally with ppl...
do you just pm them like: "i got this info, what do you have?"
or how do you do it?

I for example usually ask: "Want an alliance?" and don't say any info yet.
If I can investigate or have an ability that can't narrow you down, I sometimes say that I can investigate or do another ability. Tho I don't do that so much anymore since people don't want an alliance with me. Which means I gave them info without getting anything back :x
There are some "types" (this is exaggerated a lot :x)
"Ally me! Or die!" - type:
Xpon
Xpon: "Ally me!"
Player: "Hm... I'm not sure."
Xpon: "Ally me pleaaasseee!~ T_T You can totally trust me!"
Player: :V
*Player dies on Night 1 by Xpon*
Detective Tommy
DT: "Let's make an alliance!"
Player: "Ok!"
DT: "Why did you do this and that/What's your ability/etc.?"
Player: "Can't tell you, sorry D:"
DT: "You don't tell me! You're BO! D:" *DT lynches Player*
Strategic-type:
Schillok
Schillok: "I used a ability on you and came to the result that you're more likely town than BO. I either:
a) stole from you an item that a lot of townspeople have
b) interrogated you and got "not BO"
c) observed you
d) ...
.
.
.
z) used this and that and got to this conclusion
So, want an alliance? Tho I don't trust you completely yet."
Player: "O.o" Uh... sure?"
*Schillok dies on the next phase*
Player: "Noo~ My ally! D:"
Dus
Dus: "Let's play a game. Since I'm noctural

Player: "What? D:"
Dus: "ahem... I mean... let's play a game where you have to answer 3 questions about your role. You have to lie for one, tell the truth and you not answer for another one. We take turns, so everyone get's questions and answers"
Player: "Oh, sure! Sounds good!

*player get's APTXed by Dus*
Paranoid-type (and kinda tsundere?!):
Akonyl, Abs., PhoenixTears
Player: "Want to ally?

AAP: "No. Never ever. Go away! ...But... if you have information, I don't mind hearing it....."
Crazy-type:
TheBlind
TheBlind: "*put crazy theory in here*"
Player: "Huh... what? O.o" "
TheBlind: ";D"
Cute-type:
Nomemory
Nomemory:

Player: ".... <3 I'll follow you to the end of the world!!!"
Nomemory:

Idle-type:
Parkur
Night 1: Player sends Parkur a PM
Day 1
Night 2
Day 2
Night 3
Day 3
Night 4: Parkur answers
Shy/hiding-type:
Commi-Ninja
Player: "Want an alliance?"
Commi: *hides*
Player: "Uhm... hello?"
Commi: "Hmmmm..."
Player: "Uhh...?"
Commi: "Maybe." *commi vanishes into the darkness*
Player: "Damn ninjas D:"
Secretly-being-lynched-type
Pofa
Pofa: "Good. I got 2 trusted allies now"
Other players: "Pofa is totally BO. Being all secretly and silent! Besides, we don't have any other lead anyway :x" *other players lynched pofa*
Pofa: "Noooo~! D:"
Dangerous-combo:
Kain + Edogawa
Player allied Kain and Edogawa.
Player PMs Kain and Edogawa and goes away for 5 min.
Player returns and sees 120 new PMs in the inbox
Player: "Holy sh.... D:"
"Being rejected"-type:
Kleene Onigiri
Kleene Onigiri: "Want to ally me? :3"
Player 1: "No."
Kleene Onigiri: "Want to ally me? :3"
Player 2: "No, sorry"
Kleene Onigiri: "Want to ally me? :V"
Player 3: "Uh... maybe later..."
Kleene Onigiri: "Want to ally me?"
Player 4: "No."
Kleene Onigiri: "Want to ally me? D:"
Player 5: " Never! You're BO!"
Kleene Onigiri: "Want to ally me? T_T"
Xpon: "Nope."
Kleene Onigiri: "Whaaaaaaaat?! :V"

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Kleene, you don't know how much I love you right now.