Ai + Conan

[Searcher]

I think this is what AICHAN and Girl19 (Ai cookie allies Grin) are trying to demostrate: Ai and Conan getting together at the end of DC it's EXTREMELY unlikely, but their fanatism comes from the interactions between and Ai and Conan, no matter what they future is, together or not.

Why cann't Detective Prince and I, like Ai and conan's interaction, and also believe in an Aixconan ending. Thus the 2 things exclude themselfs

We can go like this forever if you want to.

This just shows that you don't respect other peoples wishes, so sad
Just because you don't believe in an Aixconan ending doesn't mean that no one else should either.

You're late to the party dude.

I have a life to lead, I cann't be online for 24/7 like you

You've just did.

Did I insult someone? All I did was to explain our position, if that's a war to you fine by me, I couldn't care less.

Obviously though, you do.

Try reading the post, before you reply.

AiCon fan and Ai fan - not the same things.

So sorry, will remember that in the future.

I'm shocked by so many things here, I don't know even where to begin...
AiCon?
THAT is what you're going to think about for 20 years? A fictional fan couple in a japanese cartoon?
btw...I doubt it will take Gosho THAT long to finish the series.

Yes, that's what I will be thinking about non-stop for the next 20 years. I will probally not eat or sleep either
Do you think the same about people who make fan stories, or pictures or etc. for fictional fan couple. That they have no life.

Or...you could do something slightly more productive with your life in these many months.

See reply above

OK, the credibility level of your arguments is now below 0. The man, who fixes a soulmate to every second character and makes sure that almost everyone is part of a couple, is EMOTIONLESS?

See how easy it is to be misunderstand, not everyone can write down exactly what they mean.
What I meant was that Gosho doesn't do emontional stuff often, he rather writes about murder puzzles. So I don't think he will spend to much time on the relationship between Ai and gin.

And as for the rest of mine questions not related for Ai + conan. Since this is the biggest thread with the most people, it's faster to get a reply from mine questions.
Also it would mean that we would be talking about something again.

Detecive Prince, maybe we should send letters to the secretary of Gosho, whom the character Ai is based on, to help us support for more Aixconan moments and an Aixconan ending Grin


is it true?

That's what I read here in the forum, don't remember which thread, probally this one.
All I remember is that Ai was based on the secretary who was loyal to him.

[Kor]

Obviously though, you do.

Try reading the post, before you reply.

I actually did, and if you failed to understand what I was trying to say, I won't explain myself.

I'm shocked by so many things here, I don't know even where to begin...
AiCon?
THAT is what you're going to think about for 20 years? A fictional fan couple in a japanese cartoon?
btw...I doubt it will take Gosho THAT long to finish the series.

Yes, that's what I will be thinking about non-stop for the next 20 years. I will probally not eat or sleep either
Do you think the same about people who make fan stories, or pictures or etc. for fictional fan couple. That they have no life.

Or...you could do something slightly more productive with your life in these many months.

See reply above

1) If you're going to make a point seriously, why to add so much things you don't even mean to? It's a waste of everyone's time (including yours)
2) It doesn't make your arguments better and in your case, it's hard to figure out if you're serious or not.
3) Where have I said that you or other people have no life? Don't put words in my mouth please, or at least read better what people are saying.

And as for the rest of mine questions not related for Ai + conan. Since this is the biggest thread with the most people, it's faster to get a reply from mine questions.

So? You have this forum for any question you want an answer for. Why to harm this thread with off-topic stuff even though it had already suffered enough from it? Basically, if you have a question which is Off-topic here (or doesn't belong in any other thread) just open a new thread about it.

[Kleene Onigiri]

@fight:

Issue is this:

Girl19 (+ some other people) are offended/annoyed, when people start to say that they are bigger/better/ultimate aixcon fans (Detective Prince and Searcher did say similar things). This would on the other and mean, that Girl19 is a "worse" fan. So it's understandable, why she get's offended.
(I'm saying this, because Detective Prince and Searcher don't seem to understand why Girl19 is mad at them)

In my opinion, you can't say that you're a bigger fan. Because you would compare to others. But if you know the series for 10 years and someone else knows it for 1 year. Does that mean the one with 10 years is  "better" fan? Nope :p
The only thing you could say is, that you're a big fan, since you don't compare yourself with others then. And saying you're a big fan of Aixcon and just a fan of TakagixSatou for example. This would just mean that you like the one pairing more than the other, and you wouldn't compare to others again.

Although saying you're the "Ultimate Believer" wouldn't necessarily be a comparison to others. It could just mean, that they think that there will be a AixCon ending. And beliving in that ending doesn't mean you're a "better" fan, and they don't want to point that out with that "Ultimate Believer" statement.

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Now I can ask my question. I hope it doesn't get regarded as off-topic (because I think it's not :p) And it's not to create a "war" either. It's a real question I have :p

Someone posted (before WW3 started here), that ShinxRan is a "weak" couple. (or a pairing with a weakness? Don't know how they said that anymore)

So, why is ShinxRan considered a weak pairing, and thus AixCon would be a "strong" pairing? (I even heard of ShinxRan fans, that it's a weak pairing, so I wonder O.o" And sry if it was said before in one of the pairing threads, but I don't feel like reading 200+ sites to look for that :x)

[Abs.]

Someone posted (before WW3 started here)

You mean WW33?

So, why is ShinxRan considered a weak pairing, and thus AixCon would be a "strong" pairing?

The short answer would be thus:

Number of Shinichi x Ran interactions: x
Number of Haibara x Conan interactions: x⁵⁰⁰

The long answer is blah blah blah honesty blah blah blah understanding blah blah blah geniuses blah blah blah same goals blah blah blah same situation blah blah blah...  8)

[Kleene Onigiri]

So, why is ShinxRan considered a weak pairing, and thus AixCon would be a "strong" pairing?

The short answer would be thus:

Number of Shinichi x Ran interactions: x
Number of Haibara x Conan interactions: x⁵⁰⁰

The long answer is blah blah blah honesty blah blah blah understanding blah blah blah geniuses blah blah blah same goals blah blah blah same situation blah blah blah...  8)

Wouldn't it be the same for

Number of Conan x Ran interactions: x⁵⁰⁰
Numer of Shinichi x Haibara interactions: x

:p

[Abs.]

Wouldn't it be the same for

Number of Conan x Ran interactions: x⁵⁰⁰
Numer of Shinichi x Haibara interactions: x

:p

For sho'

Except that the examples you listed are ... uncomfortably pedophilic (how they are more so than Conan x Haibara, I'll leave to the Conan x Aiyumi / Mitsuhiko x Haibara fans to explain  )

Also, Shinichi x Shiho is but a fantasy! 

[Kleene Onigiri]

Wouldn't it be the same for

Number of Conan x Ran interactions: x⁵⁰⁰
Numer of Shinichi x Haibara interactions: x

:p

For sho'

Except that the examples you listed are ... uncomfortably pedophilic (how they are more so than Conan x Haibara, I'll leave to the Conan x Aiyumi / Mitsuhiko x Haibara fans to explain  )

Also, Shinichi x Shiho is but a fantasy! 

Lol, pedophilic XD Depends if they stay small. On the other hand, they are all adults (or almost adults -> 17 years old)

There was a Conan x Shiho interaction tho ;p

[Girl19]

This just shows that you don't respect other peoples wishes, so sad
Just because you don't believe in an Aixconan ending doesn't mean that no one else should either.

Yes, I'm a bad person who doesn't respect others' opinions and just unsult them. Isn't this what you and your fellow "ultimate believer" comrade wanted to prove? You turned all the situation against me to make me look as the evil one here. So now I'm just accepting my role.

I have a life to lead, I cann't be online for 24/7 like you

Oh because now I am the one who doesn't have a life? For all I know, I'm not the one who said I would "spend the next 20 or 30 years of my life having sad feelings because AixConan didn't happen" and that I would "curse Gosho for many, many, many months for wasting a superb character".
And FYI, what I meant with my previous post (because you obviously didn't get it.. must be your busy life preventing you from reading posts carefully ) was this: if you're late and see that the "fight" had already stopped, then don't push it and bring it on again. Shut up. But you obviously wanted it to continue..

Did I insult someone? All I did was to explain our position, if that's a war to you fine by me, I couldn't care less.

If you couldn't care less then why did you even reply? Huh?
And see bolded part above.


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by the way,we are near to 200 pages,so Girl19,get ready to make some cookies

I bought the choco and prepared everything for the big fiesta.


And Kleene Onigiri: WW3 is the war between Shinran and AiCon fans. This one was (is?) nothing but a civil war.

[Kleene Onigiri]

And Kleene Onigiri: WW3 is the war between Shinran and AiCon fans. This one was (is?) nothing but a civil war.

Oh, true that XD

[Searcher]

So, why is ShinxRan considered a weak pairing

To me, and I have only read till chapter 240+, is that their relationship is not progressing. Which is bad because sofar I like ran.

Yes, I'm a bad person who doesn't respect others' opinions and just unsult them. Isn't this what you and your fellow "ultimate believer" comrade wanted to prove?

When you called Detective Prince a fool and later an arrogant fool, we don't need to prove anything.

And FYI, what I meant with my previous post (because you obviously didn't get it.. must be your busy life preventing you from reading posts carefully Wink ) was this: if you're late and see that the "fight" had already stopped, then don't push it and bring it on again. Shut up. But you obviously wanted it to continue..

Then say so, all you said was "You're late to the party dude". I don't want a "war", but I have to explain ourselfs.
I was thinking, at first, of not replying, but since Detective Prince is mine comrade brother (your are a man, right!) and a "Ultimate Believer", I must defend him.

Did I insult someone? All I did was to explain our position, if that's a war to you fine by me, I couldn't care less.
If you couldn't care less then why did you even reply? Huh?

I was trying to explain our position which I care about. What I don't care about is if you think this is a war.

Obviously though, you do.
Try reading the post, before you reply.

I actually did, and if you failed to understand what I was trying to say, I won't explain myself.

Great, you failed to understand me and I failed to understand you. Case closed

So? You have this forum for any question you want an answer for. Why to harm this thread with off-topic stuff even though it had already suffered enough from it? Basically, if you have a question which is Off-topic here (or doesn't belong in any other thread) just open a new thread about it.

All I wanted to know is what haircolour Gin has. That's not a valid reason for me to open a new thread.

I will try to explain ourselfs again, we call ourselfs "The Ultimate Believers", in that we have no doubt that Ai will end up with conan.
That's all, we are not saying that we are bigger fans of Ai/Aicon than anyone else. To us a fan is a fan, there is no comparison between fans.

[Conia]

Then say so, all you said was "You're late to the party dude". I don't want a "war", but I have to explain ourselfs.
I was thinking, at first, of not replying, but since Detective Prince is mine comrade brother (your are a man, right!) and a "Ultimate Believer", I must defend him.

I also noticed this in Det.Prince behaviour: You 2 think Girl19 is FIRST a WOMAN, SECOND a PERSON.

All I wanted to know is what haircolour Gin has. That's not a valid reason for me to open a new thread.

Yes it is.

[AICHAN]

So, why is ShinxRan considered a weak pairing, and thus AixCon would be a "strong" pairing?

The short answer would be thus:

Number of Shinichi x Ran interactions: x
Number of Haibara x Conan interactions: x⁵⁰⁰

The long answer is blah blah blah honesty blah blah blah understanding blah blah blah geniuses blah blah blah same goals blah blah blah same situation blah blah blah...   8)

Wouldn't it be the same for

Number of Conan x Ran interactions: x⁵⁰⁰
Numer of Shinichi x Haibara interactions: x

:p

hmm,you were comparing ShinichixRan with ConanxAi,(not ConanxRan with ShinichixAi)  in that case,Abs answer is right... ^^
and i agree with searcher,if many people think ShinichixRan is "weak"(i don't know if it's the right word) it's mostly because it's a bit static...(i would even say repetitive,predictable... )but that's my opinion XD

btw,can you stop this stupid "war" guys!!!i thought it already was over!!!

[Conia]

btw,can you stop this stupid "war" guys!!!i thought it already was over!!!

Zeldabond is really sad with the last 6 pages! stop this war!

[Kleene Onigiri]

So, why is ShinxRan considered a weak pairing, and thus AixCon would be a "strong" pairing?

The short answer would be thus:

Number of Shinichi x Ran interactions: x
Number of Haibara x Conan interactions: x⁵⁰⁰

The long answer is blah blah blah honesty blah blah blah understanding blah blah blah geniuses blah blah blah same goals blah blah blah same situation blah blah blah...  8)

Wouldn't it be the same for

Number of Conan x Ran interactions: x⁵⁰⁰
Numer of Shinichi x Haibara interactions: x

:p

hmm,you were comparing ShinichixRan with ConanxAi,(not ConanxRan with ShinichixAi)  in that case,Abs answer is right... ^^
and i agree with searcher,if many people think ShinichixRan is "weak"(i don't know if it's the right word) it's mostly because it's a bit static...(i would even say repetitive,predictable... )but that's my opinion XD

Well, I said ShinichixRan and AixCon because it's usually used like this. And the pairing threads are called like that too XD

My: "Number of Conan x Ran interactions: x⁵⁰⁰ Numer of Shinichi x Haibara interactions: x" was a counter to: "Number of Shinichi x Ran interactions: x Number of Haibara x Conan interactions: x⁵⁰⁰" from Abs :x

Because I count Conan and Shinichi as one person :p So I would count Shinichis + conans interactions altogether towards Ran. Same with Conan/shinichi towards Shiho/Ai
So the interactions from Con/shi to Ran would be almost the same number than Shin/con to Ai/shiho.

Ok, it could be seen as static, agreed. But that would be because it's obvious that they love each other. AixCon wouldn't be considered static then i guess, since it's not very obvious, and more like hinting it?
But I still find ShinxRan a very unique romance, because it's a childhood love (although in DC you almost just have childhood loves) and in real live your childhood love almost never get's true.

btw,can you stop this stupid "war" guys!!!i thought it already was over!!!

Agree! Less war, more cookies!

[James Rye]

btw,can you stop this stupid "war" guys!!!i thought it already was over!!!

Zeldabond is really sad with the last 6 pages! stop this war!

Zeldabond is nothing but a fake account of Reilik and we all felt for it.

Also, Shinichi x Shiho is but a fantasy!  

YET!!!!!
It will happen! It must happen! Alone cause i want to see it canon!
A BO-case with Shinichi and Shiho, that would be so...... well, there are no words to decribe it actually since it didn´t happend...... YET!

For the civil war:

I like Ai and Conans interaction the most and i do believe in a chance that Aicon/Shishin will happen (it´s about 0.000000012% big! That´s a good chance!!!At least waaaaaay bigger then the chances for AyumixConan! No offense, Schillok, don´t shoot me!^g^") and that´s it. 8)

@Kleene Onigiri

Yes Shinichi and Conan are the same person, but it IS a difference which is accepted by most Ranichifans, that it´s also important for the other person to know this fact.
So all the ConanxRan moments have as long no meaning for Ranichi as long as Ran doesn´t know that Conan=Shinichi. Obviously something that Ai does, so if there would any ShihoxShinichi interaction happen in future chapters, it would be added to the AixConan amount.

Also:

Less war, more cookies!

SECOND! I WANT COOKIES!! NOW!!!