Discussion Thread: Detective Conan Files 913-917

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Conan 48:69 wrote: Do you think it is necessary for Akiyama planned to let other persons seeing him went over the edge of the cliff, what if they saw Akiyama's body and a headless body on the tree at a same time.
The only explanation that Conan gives is that the tree branch that he was hanging from blocked their sight of him hanging from the rope. To be honest, since Conan is the detective character, we are supposed to take his word on matters like that. The police officers already seemed to have figured out that Akiyama was the killer even before that incident and could have figured out that he was there even without seeing him.
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A nice case (which will no doubt get censored like hell in the anime), but unless you're some history buff of Japanese history, or an avid watcher of NHK's Taiga Dramas (like Gosho obviously is), solving the whole thing 100% seems pretty difficult.
It did a good job in teasing us with some mysteries regarding Kuroda (though I somewhat doubt he's Rum. Gosho tried to make him seem way too suspicious). I don't think that X/woodpecker thing will carry on to future cases cause it seemed pretty self-contained.

Where I think this is going:
As I said in the cbox, my hunch is that we will be told at the end of the current case by Megure or Takagi that an inspector (Kuroda) gets transferred to Tokyo. the first file of the current ongoing case has Conan saying they shouldn't worry about Kuroda cause he's in Nagano. This is a good set-up for Conan to be shocked later if he finds out Kuroda gets transferred to Japan. If it doesn't happen in the current case, it will happen in the near future.
We barely just scratched the surface regarding Kuroda, and if he's left in Nagano we can't learn more about him, so I'm certain he'll be transferred to the main stage (Tokyo).

As far as what I didn't like about the case:
Kogoro and Ran were pretty much useless, and other than explaining some stuff and spectating, Conan was also unnecessary for this case to work. Nagano has enough competent inspectors that Conan just isn't needed to solve cases there. Other than meeting Kuroda, there was no need for Conan and co. to be there. And that's the other major problem with this case.
Conan just learned about Rum and his one-eye status, so two cases later, it just so happens that he stumbles upon a new mysterious inspector that also happens to be missing an eye, in Nagano of all places. This is convenient as hell and is just a very lazy way to set up new characters and events. Gosho's writing has always been convenient, but somewhere in the Bourbon arc it became much much much more obvious.
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Kor wrote: As far as what I didn't like about the case:
Kogoro and Ran were pretty much useless, and other than explaining some stuff and spectating, Conan was also unnecessary for this case to work. Nagano has enough competent inspectors that Conan just isn't needed to solve cases there. Other than meeting Kuroda, there was no need for Conan and co. to be there. And that's the other major problem with this case.
This is actually one of the things that I really liked about the case. Most of the time Conan is always being the hero, solving almost every case, and is 10 steps ahead of other characters. It's nice to have some cases every now and again where he plays a smaller role and other characters get their time in the sun. Seeing the Nagano police officers taking center stage was pretty enjoyable, and it helps break up the standard flow of the cases. This actually wound up being one of my favorite cases in quite a while.
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KuwabaraTheMan wrote:
Kor wrote: As far as what I didn't like about the case:
Kogoro and Ran were pretty much useless, and other than explaining some stuff and spectating, Conan was also unnecessary for this case to work. Nagano has enough competent inspectors that Conan just isn't needed to solve cases there. Other than meeting Kuroda, there was no need for Conan and co. to be there. And that's the other major problem with this case.
This is actually one of the things that I really liked about the case. Most of the time Conan is always being the hero, solving almost every case, and is 10 steps ahead of other characters. It's nice to have some cases every now and again where he plays a smaller role and other characters get their time in the sun. Seeing the Nagano police officers taking center stage was pretty enjoyable, and it helps break up the standard flow of the cases. This actually wound up being one of my favorite cases in quite a while.
To me, it made Conan even more god-like. He was able to solve Kano's death with out actually going to the crime scene. He simply had to ask how things happened and where people were standing.

Another thing I kind of feel awkward about is...
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(take it for granted that its been like 2-3 weeks since I read this case so if I remember wrong, please correct me)

If since Yamato claims he knew who Takeda's killer was from the beginning, and that he and the rest of the good Nagano police were concocting some form of plan, why did they not try to keep a closer eye on Akiyama and attempt to prevent Kano's death? It felt like they kind of allowed it to happen just so they could have absolute proof that he was the murderer. Also Kuroda willingly let Saegusa return to the mountain and get attacked by Akiyama despite Koumei not seeming to like that idea... Saegusa could have easily been killed by Akiyama, rather than hit with a tazer.

It just felt so wrong, especially since there have been other cases where police, like Megure, who have specifically spoke against using people as bait to lure out killers.
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Kor wrote:Conan just learned about Rum and his one-eye status, so two cases later, it just so happens that he stumbles upon a new mysterious inspector that also happens to be missing an eye, in Nagano of all places. This is convenient as hell and is just a very lazy way to set up new characters and events. Gosho's writing has always been convenient, but somewhere in the Bourbon arc it became much much much more obvious.
You mean like when conan and haibara happens to see gin's car in a random street? Or when mizunashi rena is revealed to be a BO agent? Being honnest watching the rena mizunachi special I hadn't laugh so hard for a while watching DC. Even haibara afterwards said that there were way too many coincidences
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Seeing Gin's car in the street isn't nearly as bad as what we have here. If anything coming face to face with him and Vodka in a train in one of the first volumes was much more coincidental.
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At least in the Company president's daughter kidnapping case it wasn't Gin as culprit like Conan envisioned at first.
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