Discussion Thread: Detective Conan Files 913-917

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Re: Discussion Thread: Detective Conan Files 913-91X

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unclesporkums wrote:
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Looks like they're going to draw the "who is RUM?" suspicion a little/much longer, then.
And since n ext week there's a break we won't see the solution to this anytime soon..
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Nemomon wrote:
unclesporkums wrote:
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Looks like they're going to draw the "who is RUM?" suspicion a little/much longer, then.
And since n ext week there's a break we won't see the solution to this anytime soon..
What is with the breaks being so common?); I want more action, this case was pretty easy to solve, dunno what role Kuroda will play, tho.
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Touichi Kuroba wrote:
Nemomon wrote:
unclesporkums wrote:
Spoiler:
Looks like they're going to draw the "who is RUM?" suspicion a little/much longer, then.
And since n ext week there's a break we won't see the solution to this anytime soon..
What is with the breaks being so common?);
Maybe Gosho also found the beauty behind the Dragon Quest games....
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By the way, isn't there another 2 weeks break after this case is over? That's what I heard... it seems Gosho was hospitalized in December, that's why. Not sure though.
Nemomon wrote: And since n ext week there's a break we won't see the solution to this anytime soon..
Isn't the break ending next week? File 917 comes out next week if I'm not mistaken.
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File 917 is already out. The two weeks break you're thinking of are what we've just had.
There will be another break next week, and then there will be a new file.
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Oh is that so, thanks for the information then.
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I've got to say, the moment when it looked like Yamoto was screwed after confronting Akiyama alone, before the SWAT-like team showed themselves was pretty anti-climatic and cool at the same time.
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I know it has been said already but seriously what the hell is up with all these breaks? Keep the show moving. As for the Rum situation I'm not too surprised I guess. Now that I think of it, there is a strong chance the revelation may come on the milestone of the 1000th chapter.

Typical Gosho will prob end up making Koruda head of Japanese Secret Police and Bourbon's(forgot his real name) boss . Remember back in the day how long Shuichi ended up being suspicious. Rum may end up being Akai's father.
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I'm putting my bets on akai's father as well
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alphajjc wrote:I know it has been said already but seriously what the hell is up with all these breaks?
Week of Sept 1 : chapter 906 - > Hanging writer case
Week of Sept 8 : chapterer 907
Week of Sept 15 : chapter 908 - > Rum has an artificial eye
Week of Sept 22 : [Break] - no Conan for 5 weeks for 3 Kaitou chapters
Week of Sept 29 : [Break] Kaitou 31
Week of Oct 6 : [Break] Kaitou 32
Week of Oct 13 : [Break] Kaitou 33
Week of Oct 20 : [Break] - end Conan 5 week break
Week of Oct 27 : chapter 909 - > Kamaitachi case
Week of Nov 3 : chapter 910
Week of Nov 10 : chapter 911 - > Animal crossing spoilers for "Next case is Kawanakajima case"
Week of Nov 17 : chapter 912 - > info about Movie 19
Week of Nov 24 : [Break]
Week of Dec 1 : chapter 913 - > Kawanakajima Case
Week of Dec 8 : chapter 914
Week of Dec 15 : [Break]
Week of Dec 22 : chapter 915 - > "Disappearance of Edogawa Conan" airs
Week of Dec 29 : [Break]
Week of Jan 5 : chapter 916 - > info from "Lets talk to Aoyama Gosho day"
Week of Jan 12 : [Break] (Gosho was hospitalized back in december)
Week of Jan 19 : [Break]
Week of Jan 26 : chapter 917
Week of Feb 2 : [Break]
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jimmy_kud0_tv2 wrote:
alphajjc wrote:I know it has been said already but seriously what the hell is up with all these breaks?
Week of Sept 1 : chapter 906 - > Hanging writer case
Week of Sept 8 : chapterer 907
Week of Sept 15 : chapter 908 - > Rum has an artificial eye
Week of Sept 22 : [Break] - no Conan for 5 weeks for 3 Kaitou chapters
Week of Sept 29 : [Break] Kaitou 31
Week of Oct 6 : [Break] Kaitou 32
Week of Oct 13 : [Break] Kaitou 33
Week of Oct 20 : [Break] - end Conan 5 week break
Week of Oct 27 : chapter 909 - > Kamaitachi case
Week of Nov 3 : chapter 910
Week of Nov 10 : chapter 911 - > Animal crossing spoilers for "Next case is Kawanakajima case"
Week of Nov 17 : chapter 912 - > info about Movie 19
Week of Nov 24 : [Break]
Week of Dec 1 : chapter 913 - > Kawanakajima Case
Week of Dec 8 : chapter 914
Week of Dec 15 : [Break]
Week of Dec 22 : chapter 915 - > "Disappearance of Edogawa Conan" airs
Week of Dec 29 : [Break]
Week of Jan 5 : chapter 916 - > info from "Lets talk to Aoyama Gosho day"
Week of Jan 12 : [Break] (Gosho was hospitalized back in december)
Week of Jan 19 : [Break]
Week of Jan 26 : chapter 917
Week of Feb 2 : [Break]
In red : Shônen Sunday break due to double issues (all mangas are on break those weeks).
In blue : hospitalisation explains 2 weeks of break, not only one.

Basically, out of 21 weeks where a chapter could have been published (19 if you take out the hospitalisation), Gosho wrote one (whether it's DC or MK) 15 times.
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reading through the Japanese raw of 917.....
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X is the 24th letter of the alphabet.... Takeda Shingen had 24 Generals......Yamamoto Kansuke was one of those 24 Generals..... Kano's original name Tsuchiya is for Tsuchiya Masatsugu...... Akiyama new name was for Akiyama Nobutomo.... Saegusa's name is for Saegusa Moritomo..... all of whom are among the 24 Generals....

The text message from Yamato to Koumei was the final words of the General Yamamoto Kansuke, which had Uehara worried about him.

the sideways box at the end of the chapter is Kogoro saying that he forgot to eat some Shinshuu soba (noodles). Shinshuu is one of the older names for Nagano prefecture.
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On File 917 page 2, the message written "Morofushi's car", Yamato usually address Morofushi as Koumei instead of Morofushi, so it mean that this message obviously not written by Yamato, yet Saegusa didn't notice.

Since Akiyama already placed a headless body on the tree, why he still need to use fake head to fake his death as he didn't plan to (or should not) let other persons saw him decapitated, what if other persons rush to the cliff on time, they may see Akiyama's "corpse" and headless body on a tree. Akiyama must hurry and hide himself before other persons coming to the cliff and don't need to hide a fake head in the hood of his jacket and pretend to be decapitated at all, otherwise his trick will be failed. Plus now did Akiyama guarantee the tree branch will not break when he was fell off the cliff and hung on the tree.
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Conan 48:69 wrote:On File 917 page 2, the message written "Morofushi's car", Yamato usually address Morofushi as Koumei instead of Morofushi, so it mean that this message obviously not written by Yamato, yet Saegusa didn't notice.
For people who have been reading the english scans as of late this might be something that would be lost. Somewhere along the line between it being translated from Japanese into Chinese and then Chinese into English some of the names that people call each other by get switched around. So many of them might not have caught that.

In the Japanese scan Koumei always calles Yamato by "Kansuke-kun, but in the english version of 915 they have him say "Yamato" at one point. Literally on the next page Kuroda calls Yamato by the name "Yamato" but the English scan says "Kansuke". In chapter 916 when Koumei makes the black sheep comment Yamato calls Koumei by "Koumei" but the english scan says "Taka'aki"

For anyone who had read that english version and saw "taka'aki" there, they might not have seen anything wrong with "morofushi" in the next chapter.

Conan 48:69 wrote: Since Akiyama already placed a headless body on the tree, why he still need to use fake head to fake his death as he didn't plan to (or should not) let other persons saw him decapitated, what if other persons rush to the cliff on time, they may see Akiyama's "corpse" and headless body on a tree. Akiyama must hurry and hide himself before other persons coming to the cliff and don't need to hide a fake head in the hood of his jacket and pretend to be decapitated at all, otherwise his trick will be failed. Plus now did Akiyama guarantee the tree branch will not break when he was fell off the cliff and hung on the tree.
As for the branch possibly breaking, things like that are never really explained. Akiyama did need the fake head so it made it look like a head went flying when he went over the edge of the cliff, it really wasn't explained all that well. To me it felt like the whole case ended kind of suddenly.
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jimmy_kud0_tv2 wrote: For people who have been reading the english scans as of late this might be something that would be lost. Somewhere along the line between it being translated from Japanese into Chinese and then Chinese into English some of the names that people call each other by get switched around. So many of them might not have caught that.

In the Japanese scan Koumei always calles Yamato by "Kansuke-kun, but in the english version of 915 they have him say "Yamato" at one point. Literally on the next page Kuroda calls Yamato by the name "Yamato" but the English scan says "Kansuke". In chapter 916 when Koumei makes the black sheep comment Yamato calls Koumei by "Koumei" but the english scan says "Taka'aki"

For anyone who had read that english version and saw "taka'aki" there, they might not have seen anything wrong with "morofushi" in the next chapter.
I do see File 917 RAW file, the message indeed written Morofushi, that's why I talk about the flaw of that message.

This English translator even named mysterious child with different name like Little Sister From "Outside The Territory" from File 903 page 2 sidenote and "Another Dimension" from File 905 last page side note, which DCTP used "Outside The Domain" instead.

jimmy_kud0_tv2 wrote: As for the branch possibly breaking, things like that are never really explained. Akiyama did need the fake head so it made it look like a head went flying when he went over the edge of the cliff, it really wasn't explained all that well. To me it felt like the whole case ended kind of suddenly.
Do you think it is necessary for Akiyama planned to let other persons seeing him went over the edge of the cliff, what if they saw Akiyama's body and a headless body on the tree at a same time.
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