Discussion Thread: Detective Conan Files 894-898: Scarlet Series!

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I remember there was a show on Investigation Discovery called red rum and mirrored as murder, awesome !!
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the riddle:
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The trick that Agasa pulled with the cups, I have a feeling its a clue from Gosho hinting at something else .. but nothing comes to mind...
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I purpose that Vermouth is the boss's mother, and that was immediately bust in my native language forum.
This is Boss's text to Vermouth
Douyara, watashi wa omae o jiyuu ni sase sugitayouda.
and it address her as equal, or inferior.
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Fujiwara wrote:Guys, please don't forget to use spoiler boxes when talking about 898 until the file is released. ^_^

Partial translation of file 898 (pp. 1-2, 11-12, 15-16)
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p.1

File 898: Scarlet Epilogue

In truth there’s a lot going on in the shadows!!
Enter the ex-actress who prides herself in her disguise skills!!
Yukiko-obasa…
Oneesan!!!

p.2

[Side note:] Morning dawns on the scarlet night, a calm mood drifts into the Kudou household ... and Yukiko praises the disguise of .... ?

Yukiko: Gosh, it’s perfect!

Yukiko: So you managed to make the disguise after all!

Okiya: I’m much obliged …

Yukiko: Like this you should be fine even without me dropping by every week to check the disguise!

Okiya: I’m sorry to have imposed on you like this …

Yukiko: Though I must admit that it’s unfortunate that I won’t have an excuse for coming by anymore …

Conan (thoughts): Oi …

Jodie: He’s like a completely different person …

Camel: Are you really Akai-san?

Okiya: The voice is still the same, no?

[…]

p.11

Vermouth: If you keep talking I’ll spill your brains all over the windshield!

Amuro: I would advise against that ...
You’d have a hard time cleaning up the mess ...

Vermouth: I’ll be fine ... it’s not like this is my car ...

Amuro: I wasn’t talking about my brain ... I told you before, didn’t I?

Amuro: I arranged for your secret to leak to the rest of the organization ...

Amuro: In case I don’t check in ...

Vermouth: Yeah ... you mentioned that ...

Amuro: Do not worry ...

Amuro: Your secret is kept quite safe ... I won’t make any blunders ...

Vermouth: No blunders, you say ... I heard via that wiretap you had on you ...
You picked quite the fight with those FBI agents and they seemed very suspicious of you.

Amuro: No matter how suspicious they are of me, without proof they can’t do anything ... It all went just as I expected ...

Amuro (thoughts): At that time ...

Amuro (thoughts): The only unexpected thing was ...

p.12

Conan (flashback): You’re an enemy, right?

Conan (flashback): Of the bad guys …

Vermouth: Speaking of which, from time to time there was noise in the wiretap and it was difficult to hear what was said …

Amuro: Yeah, looks like it was acting up a bit …

Vermouth: Well, from now on you should probably stop doing as you please …

Vermouth: Gin says the org is infested by rats and wants to do something about it …

Vermouth: That Hondou guy, Akai and that other guy already makes 3 …

Vermouth: You know, that member of the secret police who slipped in and was killed before we could even get their name …

Amuro: ………………

Vermouth: If I recall correctly, the code name was …

Amuro: Scotch …

Amuro: Wasn’t it?

[…]

p.15

(Camel?): Fake?

Okiya: Once you’ve seen through them, that’s pretty much what tricks are …

Camel: Th-That might be so, but …

Jodie: … And?

Jodie: What did you call us here for, having us make quite sure we weren’t being tailed?

Jodie: It probably wasn’t just so you could show off your improved disguise abilities, was it?

Okiya: This morning I got a text message ...

Okiya: From Kir, or rather, from Mizunashi Rena ...

Jodie: Eeeh?!

Camel: So they don’t know that you’re alive, right, Akai-san?

Okiya: Probably not ...
Well, I say I got a message, but it was really just 3 letters ...

Jodie: 3 letters?

Camel: Some sort of abbreviation?

Okiya: No, it’s the name of an alcohol you should know well ...

p.16

Okiya: RUM …

Okiya: One of their code names …

Okiya: I heard that name mentioned 2 or 3 times during my time in the organization ...
It looks like they’re really close to boss ...

Camel: R-real close?!

Jodie: But I didn’t receive any information like that ...

Okiya: The fact that the message consisted only of that one word ...

Okiya: Probably means that it was sent in a hurry and there was no time to inform you ...

Okiya: In any case, please inform James that an important player has started moving ...

Okiya: More important than Gin!!

[Side note:] A black ripple stains the scarlet ... Next issue, new series!!

Continued in SS #28
That's all for now, since I don't have the whole file yet. ;)

Edit: Replaced the pronouns for Scotch, since his/her gender is not confirmed yet. :-X
Oh, I just saw the update regarding the gender. But....
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... doesn't Vermouth call him "ano otoko" (あの男) when referring to Scotch in the RAW? It's this part: "That Hondou guy, Akai and that other guy already makes 3". Unless that is supposed so be some form of gender-neutral way to address someone? (LOL I think I'll never learn Japanese XD)
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MoonRaven wrote:I just read the Chinese file. Brilliant!

Nice, i also read it on chinese...
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Vermouth and Amuro's conversation in pg. 12 almost confirmed my theory that Scotch is Date. Looking forward for another Date flashback in the future.
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Subaru drinking tea just looked really awesome. XD
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@User 4869: Interesting, though I won't completely give up this idea
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I really hope that the boss is not so random person that we saw face once or twice or worse just boss' name (I don't count Atsushi as he would be great as a boss, even if we don't know much about him). If boss is Vermouth's relative, then I can't imagine or rather I don't have any ideas of who among characters, who we know, could be the boss.

About Rei-Akai-Scotch - seeing the flashback panel, where both Rei and Akai had the blood on themsleves made me think that they perhaps were ordered to kill Scotch, who turned out to be mole and it was Akai, who told to others BO's members that Scotch was a spy. Maybe, he wanted to protect his identity or maybe he wanted to prove his loyalty, who knows.

It was also interesting, when Rei said that only unexpected thing was... and then thinking about Conan. I hope Rei would find out that Conan and Shinichi are the same person. I also hope to see more of their interactions.

I actually like Rei being a spy. I know, it's repetitive; we got Kir and there was Akai, but Rei's history is different from them. I was still disappointed with 897 file, because I was expecting Akai and Rei meeting face to face and having big confrontation between each other, rather than just simple phone call.

However, like it was said before on this forum. Amuro still has its grey colours. He still holds grudge against Akai and also I can't imagine Rei calling Akai and informing him about BO movements like Kir calls to Jodie. He may, if he would feel that it's necessary.

I wonder if Rei is part of PSIA or MI6, but if he's part of latter, then it would mean that the BO is threat to UK as well. I would prefer him to be part of PSIA, though. I hope we will know soon, more about Amuro and Elena relationship.

BTW, I love Yukiko's hairstyle and Okiya in his clothes looks, very handsome, but well he always does.
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why is Akai wearing his voice changer collar in front of the DB and didn't cover it. Also I really hate that at end of file 897 amuro and conan was having a moment but doesn't explore it further in 898
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I don't think, it's really matter. DB were more occupied with the riddle and besides, it's not like they would find out something. Though, they may make the comments on it later. It would be interesting if they would say to Rei that Okiya has cool necklace-gadget. I also hope to see more interactions between Conan and Rei.
I hope it would be soon, but so far we got links to the partial translations in the spoiler box.
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Isn't the thing on Subaru's neck that choker voice changer? It has a button that turns it on and off or something?
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Yes, it does as you can see Okiya pressing his choker fer times during the file. After, he pressed first time, Camel comments that his voce changes.
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I think Rum is just one of the Boss' trusted right-hand men, there will be some more introduced in future, like Three Musketeers, Elite Four.
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Conan 48:69 wrote:
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I think Rum is just one of the Boss' trusted right-hand men, there will be some more introduced in future, like Three Musketeers, Elite Four.
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Made a similar comment in the cbox, but I hope that won't come to pass. If Rum can actually lead us closer to the boss, then Gosho should take that opportunity. With an arc of 300 files of close to zero actual development in the plot, or getting closer to a conclusion, Gosho should probably step up the game at long last.
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wkd wrote:
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Guys I'm having a thought about the CIA, would they get even more involved with Kir's life being endangered?
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She's under non-official cover iirc. So that's unlikely to say the least.
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