Discussion Thread: Detective Conan Files 888-890

Fujiwara · Post by **Fujiwara** » February 14th, 2014, 7:45 am

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English translation of pages 3-11 & 14 of File 888:

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Edit: Added pages 6,7 &14

User 4869 · Post by **User 4869** » February 14th, 2014, 8:10 am

I laugh out load just now and getting embarrassing. When i read this.

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Such a wham line!

But pathetic excuse there!

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k11chi · Post by **k11chi** » February 14th, 2014, 11:14 am

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pikacutie25 · Post by **pikacutie25** » February 14th, 2014, 10:40 pm

Wait, how is there already an early translation of this? I didn't think the actual chapter was even out yet... >.>

User 4869 · Post by **User 4869** » February 14th, 2014, 10:50 pm

pikacutie25 wrote:Wait, how is there already an early translation of this? I didn't think the actual chapter was even out yet... >.>

While the Japanese files are published on Wednesday, The file usually "leak" to translator on Friday of the previous week.

Oh. While we prohibit posting raw (Fileห in Japanese), it is allowed and we are sharing Chinese version which happen to translated quicker than you can say "google tran"
http://tieba.baidu.com/p/2868518640

pikacutie25 · Post by **pikacutie25** » February 15th, 2014, 12:52 am

User 4869 wrote:
pikacutie25 wrote:Wait, how is there already an early translation of this? I didn't think the actual chapter was even out yet... >.>
While the Japanese files are published on Wednesday, The file usually "leak" to translator on Friday of the previous week.

Ohhh, alright. That makes sense. *secretly wishes to be a part of this secret-leaking group*
I saw the translation and was weirded out when I couldn't find the associated file anywhere on the internet. ^^'

PhantomWriter · Post by **PhantomWriter** » February 16th, 2014, 11:27 pm

I'll readily admit I'm excited for this arc, all things considered. Seems the great detective has been none too subtle and it's about to bite him in the butt...

pikacutie25 · Post by **pikacutie25** » February 17th, 2014, 11:57 am

PhantomWriter wrote:I'll readily admit I'm excited for this arc, all things considered. Seems the great detective has been none too subtle and it's about to bite him in the butt...

Yup. Bourbon's obviously been suspicious for a while, but only now does he seem to be letting Conan know that he knows. As far as whether or not he'll act on it during this arc, guess we'll just have to wait and see...

PhantomWriter · Post by **PhantomWriter** » February 17th, 2014, 1:25 pm

Though, to go into more detail, it seems as though Amuro is an incredibly patient character. He's also meticulous, intelligent, cunning, and fond of psychological ploys.

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Him doing that trick of asking if Conan knew Kusada, then asking random women, then pointing out the discrepancy is rather... interesting. It's both him going "I know you know something and your outright denial is more damning than asking about what he looks like" and him trying to shake up Conan by noting the chinks in his armor, so to speak. Before, he'd just observed. Now he's pointing out a certain flaw in Conan's act, possibly because shaking up Conan could lead to him revealing more and more information. Conan, though bits and bits of information are being revealed to Bourbon, is still pretty damn tight-lipped and paranoid.

Bourbon looking into Kusada's death means he's suspicious of what happened to Akai. It's interesting how the thread of cause and effect happened to cause this scenario.

He's looking into Akai's death because he saw Akai on the train. Akai revealed himself on the train and was seen by Bourbon in order to give KID a sort of out because of how Bourbon wanted to take KID!Shiho into custody and that would bring the ruse to protect Ai to a screeching halt, along with getting KID killed. KID was only in that sort of danger because he was blackmailed into dressing as Shiho because of last minute changes to Conan's plans that he'd made up on the spot. They were only in danger because they didn't do the sensible thing and call in a bomb threat or something to prevent the mystery train mess from happening. Meanwhile, the only reason that the Organization thought the mystery train was a viable thing was because Haibara had to take the antidote to rescue the Detective Boys, the ring she was wearing wouldn't come off, and Mitsuhiko took video of Shiho. They were only in danger that resulted in that need to take the antidote because they witnessed a murderer hiding a body, who then trapped them in a cabin and lit it on fire. They witnessed it because of being on a camping trip.

Thus this all started because of a ring for a mystery train tour and a camping trip.

Very "the kingdom was lost all for the want of a horseshoe nail," no?

The_evilbit · Post by **The_evilbit** » February 17th, 2014, 3:20 pm

PhantomWriter wrote:I'll readily admit I'm excited for this arc, all things considered. Seems the great detective has been none too subtle and it's about to bite him in the butt...

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mihai · Post by **mihai** » February 17th, 2014, 3:55 pm

The_evilbit wrote:
PhantomWriter wrote:I'll readily admit I'm excited for this arc, all things considered. Seems the great detective has been none too subtle and it's about to bite him in the butt...

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While I am also excited, I feel we can't foul Conan for this one. Its all thanks to Gosho nerfing Jodie's intellect during file 851 where she basically handed Bourbon Conan on a silver platter. While we know Bourbon has been interested in Conan for awhile, it wasn't until Jodie confirmed to Bourbon indirectly, that Conan not only is working with the FBI, he was the one who took care of Kusuda Rikumichi.

What has me curious is during the Bourbon introduction arc we discovered Bourbon is a new agent recently activated according to Gin. This is further confirmed during the "Detectives' Nocturne" in both anime and manga when Vermouth mentions he has gained their trust for now. However later on we find out during the mystery train he also knows the boss' identity, which makes him a pretty important agent. He is embedded with Ran and Kogoro and currently has enough information to order the deaths of all of Conan's loved ones with a phone call as Gin wanted to kill Conan and Kogoro for knowing less during episode 425. It will be interesting to see how Conan takes him out of play this arc, because at this point unless Gosho turns Bourbon good, he holds too many cards to simply let go.

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PhantomWriter · Post by **PhantomWriter** » February 17th, 2014, 5:50 pm

The_evilbit wrote:
PhantomWriter wrote:I'll readily admit I'm excited for this arc, all things considered. Seems the great detective has been none too subtle and it's about to bite him in the butt...

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While I am also excited, I feel we can't foul Conan for this one. Its all thanks to Gosho nerfing Jodie's intellect during file 851 where she basically handed Bourbon Conan on a silver platter. While we know Bourbon has been interested in Conan for awhile, it wasn't until Jodie confirmed to Bourbon indirectly, that Conan not only is working with the FBI, he was the one who took care of Kusuda Rikumichi.

What has me curious is during the Bourbon introduction arc we discovered Bourbon is a new agent recently activated according to Gin. This is further confirmed during the "Detectives' Nocturne" in both anime and manga when Vermouth mentions he has gained their trust for now. However later on we find out during the mystery train he also knows the boss' identity, which makes him a pretty important agent. He is embedded with Ran and Kogoro and currently has enough information to order the deaths of all of Conan's loved ones with a phone call as Gin wanted to kill Conan and Kogoro for knowing less during episode 425. It will be interesting to see how Conan takes him out of play this arc, because at this point unless Gosho turns Bourbon good, he holds too many cards to simply let go.

Good point.

Okiyakaivan · Post by **Okiyakaivan** » February 17th, 2014, 7:24 pm

i think gosho aoyama have said about who tooru amuro name is on the past on interview with fans on jan 4... if i not mistaken

pikacutie25 · Post by **pikacutie25** » February 17th, 2014, 9:31 pm

The_evilbit wrote:It will be interesting to see how Conan takes him out of play this arc, because at this point unless Gosho turns Bourbon good, he holds too many cards to simply let go.

I think we would need more information on Bourbon's past and his beliefs in order to determine his fate. I don't think he'll be killed off like Pisco, because he's had so much development and has already gained so much popularity with fans. That would just be unacceptable. Right now, from what I can tell, he's either an amazing actor or he actually seems to have some good inside of him. Kind of like Vermouth, you know? He's not very likely to switch sides though, as he's in the same position as Vermouth: close to the boss, but still showing compassion for the other side (from what I can tell). What would switching sides mean anyway? It doesn't change the fact he's been deeply involved with a criminal organization and he'd still be punished for his actions, regardless of any of his intentions. So...what will happen to him is kind of up in the air at the moment.

Also, you are very right in what you said: if things are to continue like before, he'd need to be taken out of play somehow. That is...IF things are to even continue after this arc. Heh. It's not something we long-time Conan fans like to think about, but it's going to happen one day. And with the way this arc is going, with so many crucial plot elements converging, it's definitely possible.

Xenita00 · Post by **Xenita00** » February 18th, 2014, 1:34 pm

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