Takagi knows Conan's identity (Theory)

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There was a scene in 643 (anime, can't remember the manga ATM) where it's implied he saw Conan knock one of the adults out, I count that as evidence that he knows...
In fact, I'll fetch the manga page in question in a bit.
EDIT: Put the page in a spoiler box below. It's clearly implied that Takagi saw the watch in action, at least IMO.
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did you mix up the pictures or did you mix up the Watch and the shoes?
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He says he knocked her out with the watch, Takagi would have seen it if you look through where he is.
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He may know about the watch, but remember that he doesn't know about the voice changer. Even if he makes the leap of connecting the watch to Kogoro's narcolepsy, he can't expect Conan to be able to imitate Kogoro's voice.
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I think the people who really know about the voice changer are those who know that Conan=Shinichi. Yes, the Detective Boys stumbled upon it several times (i.e. Onsen Murder Case, E597-8, F722-4), but Ai/Agasa would always divert their attention to somewhere else.
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And since the story for the next few manga files (starting with 804) is/will be Takagi-centered, I'm hoping for a continuation on the Takagi-questioning-Conan's-identity plot. :D
Edit: Just saw the anime version of the Karuta case. The door was closed and Takagi was outside when Conan used his ball/shoes and tranquilizer.
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Which wiki did it list Takagi knowing about the watch?  I use Detective Conan World, and they don't have any of that listed.  I'd like to see if they have a reference for a chapter that they're getting the info from. 
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DaisukeKazamatsuri wrote: Which wiki did it list Takagi knowing about the watch?  I use Detective Conan World, and they don't have any of that listed.  I'd like to see if they have a reference for a chapter that they're getting the info from. 
Actually, it's not an official wiki article, but part of my userpage (I compiled it :]). About Takagi knowing the watch, well... I'm not entirely sure. It wasn't actually seen on the panel. This is the theory of what I think had happened: the woman opens the door, Takagi and Conan enter (tranquilizer and shoes at the ready), Conan tranquilizes her, she falls, Conan readies his belt, man enters the entryway, Conan kicks the ball, and... you know the story. The events happened really fast and that Conan didn't have time to hide it from Takagi.
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ahrjay wrote:
DaisukeKazamatsuri wrote: Which wiki did it list Takagi knowing about the watch?  I use Detective Conan World, and they don't have any of that listed.  I'd like to see if they have a reference for a chapter that they're getting the info from. 
Actually, it's not an official wiki article, but part of my userpage (I compiled it :]). About Takagi knowing the watch, well... I'm not entirely sure. It wasn't actually seen on the panel. This is the theory of what I think had happened: the woman opens the door, Takagi and Conan enter (tranquilizer and shoes at the ready), Conan tranquilizes her, she falls, Conan readies his belt, man enters the entryway, Conan kicks the ball, and... you know the story. The events happened really fast and that Conan didn't have time to hide it from Takagi.
Okay then, so we're not positive if Takagi actually knows about the watch, but it seems likely.  Is there anything else that might have slipped?  I know Conan's not nearly as cautious around Division One as he used to be with his identity.
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DaisukeKazamatsuri wrote:
ahrjay wrote:
DaisukeKazamatsuri wrote: Which wiki did it list Takagi knowing about the watch?  I use Detective Conan World, and they don't have any of that listed.  I'd like to see if they have a reference for a chapter that they're getting the info from. 
Actually, it's not an official wiki article, but part of my userpage (I compiled it :]). About Takagi knowing the watch, well... I'm not entirely sure. It wasn't actually seen on the panel. This is the theory of what I think had happened: the woman opens the door, Takagi and Conan enter (tranquilizer and shoes at the ready), Conan tranquilizes her, she falls, Conan readies his belt, man enters the entryway, Conan kicks the ball, and... you know the story. The events happened really fast and that Conan didn't have time to hide it from Takagi.
Okay then, so we're not positive if Takagi actually knows about the watch, but it seems likely.  Is there anything else that might have slipped?  I know Conan's not nearly as cautious around Division One as he used to be with his identity.
Takagi once asked him who the heck he was. he must have seen some things already
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Borealis wrote:
DaisukeKazamatsuri wrote:
ahrjay wrote:
DaisukeKazamatsuri wrote: Which wiki did it list Takagi knowing about the watch?  I use Detective Conan World, and they don't have any of that listed.  I'd like to see if they have a reference for a chapter that they're getting the info from. 
Actually, it's not an official wiki article, but part of my userpage (I compiled it :]). About Takagi knowing the watch, well... I'm not entirely sure. It wasn't actually seen on the panel. This is the theory of what I think had happened: the woman opens the door, Takagi and Conan enter (tranquilizer and shoes at the ready), Conan tranquilizes her, she falls, Conan readies his belt, man enters the entryway, Conan kicks the ball, and... you know the story. The events happened really fast and that Conan didn't have time to hide it from Takagi.
Okay then, so we're not positive if Takagi actually knows about the watch, but it seems likely.  Is there anything else that might have slipped?  I know Conan's not nearly as cautious around Division One as he used to be with his identity.
Takagi once asked him who the heck he was. he must have seen some things already
We're trying to look more into that now.  I'm not sure if the list has been started, but we might be able to uncover something that happened in front of Takagi.  In the meantime, all we can really do is speculate - but that's half the fun. ^.^
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DaisukeKazamatsuri wrote: We're trying to look more into that now.  I'm not sure if the list has been started, but we might be able to uncover something that happened in front of Takagi.  In the meantime, all we can really do is speculate - but that's half the fun. ^.^
Totally forgot to put the link of the article. Re-posting, in case, people hasn't seen it:  Takagi Timeline. I also put it on my signature. The timeline's more about Takagi's (also mentioned Satou's as well) thoughts about Conan's intelligence.
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Thank you very much, ahrjay!  This will be very helpful.  I haven't read through all of it, but the information is solid and I will gladly use it in the future when disagreements come up as well.

EDIT:  Though it might not be immediately relevant, I would like to know when Takagi first sees Heiji and Conan working together.  (If you don't mind putting it in, of course :) )
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DaisukeKazamatsuri wrote: Thank you very much, ahrjay!  This will be very helpful.  I haven't read through all of it, but the information is solid and I will gladly use it in the future when disagreements come up as well.

EDIT:  Though it might not be immediately relevant, I would like to know when Takagi first sees Heiji and Conan working together.  (If you don't mind putting it in, of course :) )
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DaisukeKazamatsuri wrote: Thank you very much, ahrjay!  This will be very helpful.  I haven't read through all of it, but the information is solid and I will gladly use it in the future when disagreements come up as well.

EDIT:  Though it might not be immediately relevant, I would like to know when Takagi first sees Heiji and Conan working together.  (If you don't mind putting it in, of course :) )
Really glad to help! And done. :D
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Thank you all for the lovely discussion!  But I think we've just been disproved with the last update...it made me really sad. X'(  We can still hope, though!  Maybe Gosho plans on him figuring it out?  Or maybe he's just trying not to blow Conan's cover?
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