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kirite wrote: My friend just told me she's suicidal and tells me how she's hurting herself and over dosing on medication

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well, I guess call the police or something, at least :/
I wouldn't recommend it. With the stigma so many people have against mental illness it could make things worse.
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mangaluva wrote: CSW, you're not helping. Kain and her mother have clearly been working on this for years; Kain's mentioned difficulties more than once in the forum in the past. The way they're doing things just now clearly isn't working. Kain's mother isn't treating her as an individual if she's comparing her to her sisters all the time. A little space might help both of them figure out what's really important.
I'm sorry Kain for sounding rude. I wasn't trying to say you weren't trying or anything like that. I'm saying this because even though I don't know you at all I don't want anyone to be unhappy (by which i mean less of what you go through) so I choose to offer advice than words of comfort for they only help in the short term, but they will not solve the problem. With this moving situation you will get temporary relief for this is a long standing problem as you described and it just won't go away in fact she may even feel worse.  Like I said I'm only going off what you give me. :P I would like to delve deeper, but I must stave off my interest.

Onto other matters: Suutashi that's horrible advice. That's like not calling the ambulance when someone might be seriously injured. Kirite, I say get your friend help immediately, the self destructive behavior is a troubling sign for it can only get worse from there. Remember people if your friends are harming themselves don't just act like it's none of your business or that they will get better. These matters are of life and death and debating over it isn't helping anyone. Especially for a Friend/Family Member. Would your friends not go out of their way to save or help you? If not I question your friendship. lol
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ConansSideWalk wrote:
mangaluva wrote: CSW, you're not helping. Kain and her mother have clearly been working on this for years; Kain's mentioned difficulties more than once in the forum in the past. The way they're doing things just now clearly isn't working. Kain's mother isn't treating her as an individual if she's comparing her to her sisters all the time. A little space might help both of them figure out what's really important.
I'm sorry Kain for sounding rude. I wasn't trying to say you weren't trying or anything like that. I'm saying this because even though I don't know you at all I don't want anyone to be unhappy (by which i mean less of what you go through) so I offer advice than words of comfort for they only help in the short term, but they will not solve the problem. Like I said I'm only going off what you give me. :P I would like to delve deeper, but I must stave off my interest.

Onto other matters: Suutashi that's horrible advice. That's like not calling the ambulance when someone might possibly be seriously injured. Akonyl, I say get your friend help immediately, the self destructive behavior is a troubling sign for it can only get worse from there. Remember people if your friends are harming themselves don't just act like it's none of your business or that they will get better. These matters are of life and death and debating over isn't helping anyone. Especially for a Friend/Family Member. Would your friends not go out of their way to save or help you? If not I question your friendship. lol
You mean to tell me that you should call the cops if someone you know is showing signs of serious mental health issue? You're out of your freaking mind if you thing that's a good idea! I've seen what the police do to people who they think are mentally ill first hand! It's isn't pretty; that's for certain!
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(If I ever post here again just remember all my posts are based on what I see, nothing else) Highly recommended! If they plan to kill themselves soon call the police. I suggest calling the suicide hotline (confidential) and informing yourself as soon as possible by telling them everything he or she told you and get your friend to the proper care. The police and the hotline's main concern are the person's health so don't fear them. Life should be cherished not thrown away and your going to have to help them see that. ^Update: I should've said mostly with suicides though it depends on the illness and the and the situation. Your judgement is off base I don't want to get into your reasoning because I'm lazy also there are more important matters at stake :P
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Suutashi wrote:
Akonyl wrote:
kirite wrote: My friend just told me she's suicidal and tells me how she's hurting herself and over dosing on medication

Sigh.
well, I guess call the police or something, at least :/
I wouldn't recommend it. With the stigma so many people have against mental illness it could make things worse.
I take issue with this comment. I really hope that you don't think wanting to kill yourself is a mental illness.

But in any case..
@Kirite: Often (not always) when someone tells a thing like this it is a cry for help, they know that they are feeling bad and want to be supported so that nothing worse will happen. Talk to your friend about this issue and try to get her to apply for help herself. And be there for her, that is a given, but I really think it is important to talk about why she is feeling bad and try to make her stop wanting to take her life.  If you want to talk about this any further please PM me, it isn't easy for you either, so..
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Suutashi wrote:
Akonyl wrote:
kirite wrote: My friend just told me she's suicidal and tells me how she's hurting herself and over dosing on medication

Sigh.
well, I guess call the police or something, at least :/
I wouldn't recommend it. With the stigma so many people have against mental illness it could make things worse.
while normally I would agree and say that you probly wouldn't want to, that it's a cry for help and that you shouldn't feed into it etc, I would have to say things are a bit different between a friend saying "I'm thinking of killing myself, life sucks I don't want to live anymore" and "I want to kill myself and I am literally overdosing on medication right now." One of these is something that a lot of people feel at some point, and the other is a point that not very many people get to.

Of course, if there are mitigating factors here like her doing this before that have amounted to nothing, it's a different story. However, while a failed attempt to kill yourself by cutting your wrists might only end up with a scar, failing to overdose all the way on medication can cause serious organ damage. So even if she's not aiming to kill herself, she's taking pretty serious risks if she's starting down that road.

If not the police, then I would at least say an ambulance or some other emergency service, although it's been a few hours so it's a bit late for that now.
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I've got a friend who's threatening suicide right now. She's complaining about shit that's happened to her years ago, how her council flat is crap and her landlord's a bastard and how she can't take it anymore. To be honest, I think my mum's about to rake her over the coals. Coddling her sure hasn't gotten it through her head that she needs to stop obsessing about the past and actually take a look at the future, that everyone's first flat is crap and that all landlords are bastards and she's an idiot if a) she expects any different and b) she hasn't called ANY of the dozen-odd support trusts and societies for people in exactly her situation.

I'm a bit mad at her, to be honest. I've stuck with her through all of the shit she's gone through, half of which she could have avoided if she'd just made a bloody effort, partly because I feel obligated to and partly because I feel like once she gets to a happier place in her life the girl who used to be my friend will be back. But now I'm pissed off because she's dragging my mum into her self-pitying cycle because my mum tried to help her to cheer me up.

My mum's more assertive than me, though. She's going to absolutely rake her over the coals, I think. Might be just what she needs.
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Thanks for the advice guys, will message you nom.
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nomemory wrote:
Suutashi wrote:
Akonyl wrote:
kirite wrote: My friend just told me she's suicidal and tells me how she's hurting herself and over dosing on medication

Sigh.
well, I guess call the police or something, at least :/
I wouldn't recommend it. With the stigma so many people have against mental illness it could make things worse.
I take issue with this comment. I really hope that you don't think wanting to kill yourself is a mental illness.

But in any case..
@Kirite: Often (not always) when someone tells a thing like this it is a cry for help, they know that they are feeling bad and want to be supported so that nothing worse will happen. Talk to your friend about this issue and try to get her to apply for help herself. And be there for her, that is a given, but I really think it is important to talk about why she is feeling bad and try to make her stop wanting to take her life.  If you want to talk about this any further please PM me, it isn't easy for you either, so..
I didn't say wanting to kill yourself is a mental illness, I said this meaning that it would be viewed a mental illness. I apologize for having said something that was seen as offensive.
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Akonyl wrote:
kirite wrote: My friend just told me she's suicidal and tells me how she's hurting herself and over dosing on medication

Sigh.
well, I guess call the police or something, at least :/
I wouldn't recommend it. With the stigma so many people have against mental illness it could make things worse.
while normally I would agree and say that you probly wouldn't want to, that it's a cry for help and that you shouldn't feed into it etc, I would have to say things are a bit different between a friend saying "I'm thinking of killing myself, life sucks I don't want to live anymore" and "I want to kill myself and I am literally overdosing on medication right now." One of these is something that a lot of people feel at some point, and the other is a point that not very many people get to.

Of course, if there are mitigating factors here like her doing this before that have amounted to nothing, it's a different story. However, while a failed attempt to kill yourself by cutting your wrists might only end up with a scar, failing to overdose all the way on medication can cause serious organ damage. So even if she's not aiming to kill herself, she's taking pretty serious risks if she's starting down that road.

If not the police, then I would at least say an ambulance or some other emergency service, although it's been a few hours so it's a bit late for that now.
That's what I thought Kirite was saying: that her friend has done this in the past and is just now telling her about it. I interpreted it as that and that's partly why I don't suggest going to the police about this. Kirite's friend needs help but her friend is going to need support from the people she loves and trust. If her friend has only just told Kirite about this then she told her because she trusts her.
ConansSideWalk wrote: (If I ever post here again just remember all my posts are based on what I see, nothing else) Highly recommended! If they plan to kill themselves soon call the police. I suggest calling the suicide hotline (confidential) and informing yourself as soon as possible by telling them everything he or she told you and get your friend to the proper care. The police and the hotline's main concern are the person's health so don't fear them. Life should be cherished not thrown away and your going to have to help them see that. ^Update: I should've said mostly with suicides though it depends on the illness and the and the situation. Your judgement is off base I don't want to get into your reasoning because I'm lazy also there are more important matters at stake :P
Like I said: I'm reading Kirite's post as meaning that her friend has done this in the past and is just now telling her. If her friend is ODing now then, yes, she should call the police and probably poison control as well.
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Ah, I meant my friend just sent a bunch of us "goodbye" text messages while she plans to overdose

A friend of mine manage to reach her family before she took too much, they took away her medication then yelled at her for around 2 hours.  She's not exactly well and I think she doesn't particularly trust us.  I have a feeling she'll be trying again.  I'm not sure if "reasons to believe that friend is suicidal" will keep her in Emergency for long considering how she'll just deny everything.  
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Kinda sad just now. I got a review from a reader of my Nuzlocke fic saying they love my Hypno, Daisy, and saying they can't wait to see her take on the Fighting Dojo.
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sonoci wrote: @queen misanagi: Maybe it's the normal human feeling of wanting something we don't have? That often makes things much more appealing, even if they weren't before. I think we've all been in the scenario where we've gone "Pft, I don't need that!" only to look at "that" later and think "Oh...I need that!"

Most of the time though, we don't need it, we just want it.

Or maybe it's something else entirely, I wouldn't know. Whatever the case, I'm sure it'll work out somehow : )
Thanks... *hugs sonoci*

@kirite: Her family yelling at her won't really make things easier for her. She'll be completely withdrawn from everything and that's what you should avoid, actually. I heard from a lecture before that suicidal people, when they actually plan to do it don't really tell people when they're going to do it. (Cause you know people would stop you so if you want your suicide to be successful, you'll do it quietly) The fact that she's still telling you may just be a cry for help, meaning she wants you to notice and she wants you to get there in time to save her. Sometimes, I think, all we want is to know that people care for us.
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Followed up my ice cream trick from last night by somehow managing to spill milk across the table from a cereal bowl this morning. While sitting completely still and putting my spoon back in the empty bowl. And you know what they say about spilt milk... no matter how thoroughly you clean it up, it stinks forever.

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