Bourbon's Identity: Who is Bourbon!?

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Hello everyone I'm new here

Nice forum

In my opinion I think that it's Okiya Subaru

Conan and Ran both get bad vibes from him and with the reappearance of Shuichi Akai I'm willing to wager he is Bourbon
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Blaze of Glory wrote: Hello everyone I'm new here

Nice forum

In my opinion I think that it's Okiya Subaru

Conan and Ran both get bad vibes from him and with the reappearance of Shuichi Akai I'm willing to wager he is Bourbon
welcome to this great forum!i'm new too!
for me it's not gosho's style to make the thigs too evident and clear!he likes to make surprising things!!that's why i don't think he's boubon ;) but we'll wait and see!maybe your right and after okiya(if he's bourbon) will change of camp and help conan!
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Re: Bourbon's Identity: Who is Bourbon!?

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Blaze of Glory wrote: Hello everyone I'm new here

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In my opinion I think that it's Okiya Subaru

Conan and Ran both get bad vibes from him and with the reappearance of Shuichi Akai I'm willing to wager he is Bourbon
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Maybe Okiya is Vermouth?? xD
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I think what's tricky about Gosho is that his plot is a giant brain trick. He gives you this hint to make you think one thing. But then you realize that there's more than one possibility. His "hints" are designed to purposely mislead his audience so the revelation will be much more of a shock. In Bourbon's case, Okiya was seen drinking Bourbon, thereby making us think that he is Bourbon. However, we've seen Jodie drinking Vermouth to mislead us into thinking she's Vermouth, so now Okiya could just be one of the good guys. But then you think to yourself, Aoyama would never use the same trick twice! So Okiya must really be Bourbon. But then.... et cetera, et cetera.

So at the end of the day, you're left with a bunch of possibilities with only your intuition and common sense to make you pick the best theory.
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since he already pulled off the Jodie-Vermouth trick, maybe now he's doing the opposite by reverse psychology... he knows that fans like us wouldn't be so easily 'fooled' by a hint such as Okiya drinking Bourbon, but in fact Okiya IS Bourbon, and Gosho will go all 'he really is Bourbon, I made it so obvious for all of you to see! xP'

not that I'm convinced that Okiya is Bourbon myself, but just playing devil's advocate :P

personally i kind of want Okiya to be Bourbon, and I want Conan to know it. :P because it means he has another plan/reason at the ready for letting a BO member stay in his house, that could be a good surprise factor.
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caribou wrote: since he already pulled off the Jodie-Vermouth trick, maybe now he's doing the opposite by reverse psychology... he knows that fans like us wouldn't be so easily 'fooled' by a hint such as Okiya drinking Bourbon, but in fact Okiya IS Bourbon, and Gosho will go all 'he really is Bourbon, I made it so obvious for all of you to see! xP'
yeah maybe your right !!gosho is not the the type of mangaka who uses the same trick twice!so in that case,the only possiility is that he's bourbon!
caribou wrote: personally i kind of want Okiya to be Bourbon, and I want Conan to know it. :P because it means he has another plan/reason at the ready for letting a BO member stay in his house, that could be a good surprise factor.
me too ,in a way,i want him to be bourbon,just to see what conan will do after letting a bo member to stay in his house!
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AICHAN wrote:
caribou wrote: since he already pulled off the Jodie-Vermouth trick, maybe now he's doing the opposite by reverse psychology... he knows that fans like us wouldn't be so easily 'fooled' by a hint such as Okiya drinking Bourbon, but in fact Okiya IS Bourbon, and Gosho will go all 'he really is Bourbon, I made it so obvious for all of you to see! xP'
yeah maybe your right !!gosho is not the the type of mangaka who uses the same trick twice!so in that case,the only possiility is that he's bourbon!
caribou wrote: personally i kind of want Okiya to be Bourbon, and I want Conan to know it. :P because it means he has another plan/reason at the ready for letting a BO member stay in his house, that could be a good surprise factor.
me too ,in a way,i want him to be bourbon,just to see what conan will do after letting a bo member to stay in his house!
I'd like to see it as well.
If I recall, Conan hinted to Okiya that Shinichi was still alive when handing him the keys.
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Nanatsu no Ko wrote:
AICHAN wrote:
caribou wrote: since he already pulled off the Jodie-Vermouth trick, maybe now he's doing the opposite by reverse psychology... he knows that fans like us wouldn't be so easily 'fooled' by a hint such as Okiya drinking Bourbon, but in fact Okiya IS Bourbon, and Gosho will go all 'he really is Bourbon, I made it so obvious for all of you to see! xP'
yeah maybe your right !!gosho is not the the type of mangaka who uses the same trick twice!so in that case,the only possiility is that he's bourbon!
caribou wrote: personally i kind of want Okiya to be Bourbon, and I want Conan to know it. :P because it means he has another plan/reason at the ready for letting a BO member stay in his house, that could be a good surprise factor.
me too ,in a way,i want him to be bourbon,just to see what conan will do after letting a bo member to stay in his house!
I'd like to see it as well.
If I recall, Conan hinted to Okiya that Shinichi was still alive when handing him the keys.
Yeah. Then Shin'ichi became Kin'ichi. Haha.
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I think that Okiya is akai and bourbon is kid. I mean think about it, kid has a grudge against the BO cause they murdered his father so it's possible that he would go into diguise as a member to destroy BO from inside. The series have to end at some point and I think it'd be great if Kid took part in destroying the BO.
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kid's father was killed by BO?  ???
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I beg to differ I think Conan thought Okiya who is Bourbon was Akai since they both have some knowledge of Sherlock Holmes and Conan is a total Sherlock Holmes freak.
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Blaze of Glory wrote: I beg to differ I think Conan thought Okiya who is Bourbon was Akai since they both have some knowledge of Sherlock Holmes and Conan is a total Sherlock Holmes freak.
I didn't know Akai was a Sherlockian.
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Rellik wrote: kid's father was killed by BO?  ???
Yep. As far as I know.
yukionna wrote:
Blaze of Glory wrote: I beg to differ I think Conan thought Okiya who is Bourbon was Akai since they both have some knowledge of Sherlock Holmes and Conan is a total Sherlock Holmes freak.
I didn't know Akai was a Sherlockian.
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Hi guys i'm new ! (Please don't mind my bad English, i'm french)

I had an idea recently, and if Okiya was the hidden brother of Haibara ? Maybe he left the BO just like her, and that's maybe why she feels the pressure ! (my only clue was the hair color xD) What do you think ?
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Hitomi wrote: Hi guys i'm new ! (Please don't mind my bad English, i'm french)

I had an idea recently, and if Okiya was the hidden brother of Haibara ? Maybe he left the BO just like her, and that's maybe why she feels the pressure ! (my only clue was the hair color xD) What do you think ?

LOOOOL!i was thinking of that possibility too!firstly because of the hair colour in the manga(but when i saw okiya with pink hair,i forget this idea)and i was thinking"maybe it's the thing that ai'mother said in the tapes(vol 42),haibara has a hidden brother!"
but i really doubt this idea is right(it would be nice in a way ;)),for now i'm more in the idea that okiya=akai(which i don't really want)
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