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Who according to you is the best Couple ever in This series?

Ran-Shinichi
95
37%
Heiji-Kazuha
17
7%
Satou-Takagi
39
15%
Eri-Kogorou
9
4%
Makoto-Sonoko
1
0%
Yusaku-Yukiko
9
4%
Ai-Conan
78
30%
Ai-Akai
9
4%
 
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Xela wrote: Oh dear God. Ran does act selfish from time to time, despite how much the author tries to portray her as "perfect".
Yes, she was begging for Shinichi to get his memories back- but is it said that she does this only for his well-being?
She rarely cares about the Shinichi they found memoryless and pinning at how he isn´t the Shinichi she knows.
I don´t get what´s supposed to be the extreme selflessness about that act.
So, Aoyama has her do dodgy things like break into cell phones and ask for petty personal favors from people who just lost relatives, has her think to herself that stuff is dodgy but does them anyway, and he's portraying her as "perfect"? He has her leave poisonous plants lying in a place a cat can easily access so she can dash off and assault veterinarians for daring to look like they might be dating her mother and he's intending her to be "perfect"? She's an impulsive hotheaded teenager, not "perfect" at all, and I don't see how Aoyama intends otherwise.  Her impulsive hotheadedness can translate into heroism, too, but it has gotten her into trouble.

Anyway, in Shiragami, Ran was willing trade her soul for Shin'ichi's before she fell off the cliff. Basically a more abstract version of the cliffhanger Aoyama did for Kazuha/Heiji in Mermaid (which I learned recently was something he did for Sayaka/Yaiba, too). Though, rather than make Ran look noble and self-sacrificing, it made her look totally desperately crazy. Still, there was a large element of self-sacrifice involved, even if she herself thought the underlying desire that drove her into the forest was selfish.
Xela wrote: As I said in an earlier post, she could have easily found out by now that Shinichi is not just having fun and has to deal with a situation that´s even trickier than her´s.
She knows he's in some sort of trouble. She was already willing to accept him playing Conan rather than try to force a confession again, thinking he was in hiding. She still thought he might have a good reason to play Conan after the cell phone incident. Just before they met Okiya, Sonoko asked why Ran  still wants to help a guy who barely calls her. Ran replied that it seems like he's going through troubles himself.

Shin'ichi's own impulsive hotheadedness and his desire to keep her from worrying hasn't made it "easy" for her to figure out just how much trouble he's in, either. He's never told her that she should keep his continued contact with her discreet. When he got the temp cure he even tried resume his old life and go back to school (which obviously should confuse her idea that he's in hiding). Even the reason he gave for her to avoid talking too much about him with Okiya was merely to protect the privacy of his belongings. I think she does pretty good job trying to see things from his perspective* despite his incongruous behavior and deceit.

* So she gets flack from a lot of Haibara fans for turning into a passive doormat content to wait... I'd only put her as a doormat if she learns about him repeatedly assaulting her father to use as a puppet and Gin targeting them anyway despite the lies and just acts oblivious to it or is immediately forgiving.
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Nyarl wrote: She's an impulsive hotheaded teenager, not "perfect" at all, and I don't see how Aoyama intends otherwise.  Her impulsive hotheadedness can translate into heroism, too, but it has gotten her into trouble.


I say he intends otherwise because nobody seems to have even the slightest problem with these things.
Ran rushing into a dangerous situation without thinking= OMG, she´s so awesome!
Any other character doing this= OMG, he/she is so stupid!
Ran being impulsive and hotheaded= OMG, she´s so awesome (seriously, again)!
Kazuha being impulsive and hotheaded= OMG, she´s reckless and kinda bitchy.
I really know a lot of people with this kind of view.
With "He is trying to portray her as perfect" I meant how Ran can´t seem to do anything wrong.
Seriously, is there something she is not capable of doing?
And the phenomen I mentioned above kinda appears in Conanverse, too.

Anyway, in Shiragami, Ran was willing trade her soul for Shin'ichi's before she fell off the cliff. Basically a more abstract version of the cliffhanger Aoyama did for Kazuha/Heiji in Mermaid (which I learned recently was something he did for Sayaka/Yaiba, too). Though, rather than make Ran look noble and self-sacrificing, it made her look totally desperately crazy. Still, there was a large element of self-sacrifice involved, even if she herself thought the underlying desire that drove her into the forest was selfish.
I answered to a post that claimed Ran was doing this purely for Shinichi´s well-being and that´s not what I saw.
She knows he's in some sort of trouble. She was already willing to accept him playing Conan rather than try to force a confession again, thinking he was in hiding. She still thought he might have a good reason to play Conan after the cell phone incident. Just before they met Okiya, Sonoko asked why Ran  still wants to help a guy who barely calls her. Ran replied that it seems like he's going through troubles himself.


It bugs me that she never seems to think about it.
All we get is a "When will you come back?" from time to time. If she really knows that he´s in trouble, why can´t she figure out that she is driving him further and further into remorse?
It looks like she doesn´t waste a second thought about his feelings, at least to me.
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Ran is sometimes a really mysterious character. I think it is intentional that her deeper feelings aren't always shown and if they are shown we get only "when will he come back" things. That's because she is a surprise character. Like when she saved Ai from Vermouth & Calvados. She was not in our focus, nor her thoughts, but still she was there and bang! If once Conan=Shiichi is revealed it'll be a surprise thing too. Okay...I won't go in to details. ^^""

On the other hand she is not as "mature" as Shinichi in some senses. Shinichi knew for at least 4 years that she clearly loves Ran, and Ran only began to look at him as a true possibility after the Golden apple case. And while Shinichi as Conan gets more and more into Ran's "private" life, living with her, seeing her as she is , not as she poses herself to Shinichi Ran gets isolated from Shinichi, because he is "not there". Plus, she can't se Shinichi as Shinichi without the "looking cool in front of Ran"-effect.
Up until the post-Shiragami case she couldn't be sure of his feelings, although she already knew that he has some feelings for her.

So since she isn't familiar with the circumstances, you can't expect her to go worry much. And until know Shinichi hasn't given much sign of being in danger, other than not being present.
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Misztina wrote: Ran is sometimes a really mysterious character. I think it is intentional that her deeper feelings aren't always shown and if they are shown we get only "when will he come back" things. That's because she is a surprise character. Like when she saved Ai from Vermouth & Calvados. She was not in our focus, nor her thoughts, but still she was there and bang! If once Conan=Shiichi is revealed it'll be a surprise thing too. Okay...I won't go in to details. ^^""

On the other hand she is not as "mature" as Shinichi in some senses. Shinichi knew for at least 4 years that she clearly loves Ran, and Ran only began to look at him as a true possibility after the Golden apple case. And while Shinichi as Conan gets more and more into Ran's "private" life, living with her, seeing her as she is , not as she poses herself to Shinichi Ran gets isolated from Shinichi, because he is "not there". Plus, she can't se Shinichi as Shinichi without the "looking cool in front of Ran"-effect.
Up until the post-Shiragami case she couldn't be sure of his feelings, although she already knew that he has some feelings for her.

So since she isn't familiar with the circumstances, you can't expect her to go worry much. And until know Shinichi hasn't given much sign of being in danger, other than not being present.
Yess I also think so. ;) she doesnt know about his feelings ( although after all the happenings she had to know..)
but shinichi knows his feelings and rans feelings so for him, its not difficult to say his feelings..but for ran.. she doesnt even know about his feelings like I said before.
We see her as helpfull and lovely character, but I really think that she will suprise us in the final..i am sure..
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mitshukoxai = worst couple ever.....
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Introuble wrote: mitshukoxai = worst couple ever.....
well if ai wants to stay as ai than it could be a possibility with mitsuhiko..by the way he is really intelligent..
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In terms of pairings, I mostly support Satou-Takagi.  I just find their relationship and interactions very adorable and not as intense. 
Introuble wrote: mitshukoxai = worst couple ever.....
Well that's just...like, your opinion, man. :|
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NotSoFluent wrote:
Introuble wrote: mitshukoxai = worst couple ever.....
Well that's just...like, your opinion, man. :|
Well, he´s not alone with it.  ;D
ShinRan36 wrote:
well if ai wants to stay as ai than it could be a possibility with mitsuhiko..by the way he is really intelligent..
I think the 10-years-mentaly-barrier would always stand between them.^^"
For Conan and Ai the kids are kids and not potential lovers.^g^
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Yess I also think so. ;) she doesnt know about his feelings ( although after all the happenings she had to know..)
but shinichi knows his feelings and rans feelings so for him, its not difficult to say his feelings..but for ran.. she doesnt even know about his feelings like I said before.
We see her as helpfull and lovely character, but I really think that she will suprise us in the final..i am sure..
Don´t you think she knows/ suspects it since Volume 18? I mean there aren´t that many girls who knows Shinichi since he was a child. XP

I hope she doesn´t jump into the next bullet at the end cause she needs to act as a bullet schild again....
That would be such a waste...
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James Rye wrote:
NotSoFluent wrote:
Introuble wrote: mitshukoxai = worst couple ever.....
Well that's just...like, your opinion, man. :|
Well, he´s not alone with it.  ;D
ShinRan36 wrote:
well if ai wants to stay as ai than it could be a possibility with mitsuhiko..by the way he is really intelligent..
I think the 10-years-mentaly-barrier would always stand between them.^^"
For Conan and Ai the kids are kids and not potential lovers.^g^
ShinRan36 wrote:
Yess I also think so. ;) she doesnt know about his feelings ( although after all the happenings she had to know..)
but shinichi knows his feelings and rans feelings so for him, its not difficult to say his feelings..but for ran.. she doesnt even know about his feelings like I said before.
We see her as helpfull and lovely character, but I really think that she will suprise us in the final..i am sure..
Don´t you think she knows/ suspects it since Volume 18? I mean there aren´t that many girls who knows Shinichi since he was a child. XP

I hope she doesn´t jump into the next bullet at the end cause she needs to act as a bullet schild again....
That would be such a waste...

yeah maybe you are right there have a 10 years barrier but.. i dont know lol  ;D ;D

i really dont think that she suspects since volume 18 because they went together to the bathroom i mean.. lol xD. you know what i mean right? :D:D.
But now she is suspecting something ( I HOOPPEE)  ;D
since the shiragami case i think..
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AI CON ALL THE WAY!!!!!!! i fell in love with this couple since vol24!!!!i love this couple because i saw an evolution in their relationship since in the begining ai saw conan just as a subject for her experiences cause he survived to the drug.then she feel some admiration for him as being a very good detective and also a very good person.on the other side conan threat her bad first calling her murderer(cf vol 24) althought he know the truth about herand see her crying !!!but then he begin to care about her and tries to make ai fell good in her situation since they are in the same situation,he saved her from suicide risking his live in vol 29 (and putting his blood on her so thet she could go with the db !so touching!!)he is probably his first friend and i love this friendship!!!they help each other in their daily life and their interaction are so interesting !!in other word i  love them althought i know that will not  happen  but this is my opinion! ;D
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NotSoFluent wrote: In terms of pairings, I mostly support Satou-Takagi.  I just find their relationship and interactions very adorable and not as intense. 
Introuble wrote: mitshukoxai = worst couple ever.....
Well that's just...like, your opinion, man. :|
I don't know Takagi looks to passive to be with Sato. She's probably going to drive him into an early grave especially when she is oblivious to obvious things on a semi-constant basis. ;D
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NotSoFluent wrote: In terms of pairings, I mostly support Satou-Takagi.  I just find their relationship and interactions very adorable and not as intense. 
Introuble wrote: mitshukoxai = worst couple ever.....
Well that's just...like, your opinion, man. :|
yes i know its my opinion but i really think mitshukoxai dont match.....ai is like a really cool girl and  mitshuko is like a know-it-all and his voice is like meh....freckles

i dont want to offend anyone just stating my opinion sorry if i did offend some of you....
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now i know i'm not the only one who dislikes mitsuhiko's voice.
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@AICHAN

I liked the two of them since vol. 18 but as a couple i love them since vol 26 when the question from Shinichi came up and Ai was like "OMFG!!!" and she started to "really" blush.(=^.^=)
He didn´t get the "real" depth of his question what maked this situation very funny, too.^g^

About Mitsus voice... Uh....  I find it kinda nerve-wrecking after a while.^^"
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i disliked mitsuhiko's voice before... when i heard him laughing stupidly, i thought it was ranma girl... not until i searched for it... but i think i'm pretty okay with it now...
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