Detective Conan Episode 581 (The Red Shaking Target) Discuss

[Chekhov MacGuffin]

I mean, I don't know the original Japanese, so I don't know about double meanings, but from what I can understand of the translation what you are "parsing" it to changes the meaning by eliminating the idea that he couldn't find who he was looking for.

I might be misunderstanding your post, but that's right. Okiya phrased that quote so he the person he was "looking for" was himself, Akai. He that's why he said he knew that person from a long time ago and would not mistake them more a lookalike. It's a silly way to phrase things, but remember Gosho is trying to play up the malevolency to make people think Okiya is Bourbon. Of course Okiya really isn't looking for himself even though he phrased it that way; Okiya looking for his doppelgänger and trying to understand what this person is up to.

[Detective Tommy]

I mean, I don't know the original Japanese, so I don't know about double meanings, but from what I can understand of the translation what you are "parsing" it to changes the meaning by eliminating the idea that he couldn't find who he was looking for.

I might be misunderstanding your post, but that's right. Okiya phrased that quote so he the person he was "looking for" was himself, Akai. He that's why he said he knew that person from a long time ago and would not mistake them more a lookalike. It's a silly way to phrase things, but remember Gosho is trying to play up the malevolency to make people think Okiya is Bourbon. Of course Okiya really isn't looking for himself even though he phrased it that way; Okiya looking for his doppelgänger and trying to understand what this person is up to.

Well, we probably won't see more of Okiya and Scarred Akai for awhile..
Will we?

[kentasaiba]

Okiyas Next pointless cameo is in

Spoiler:

Chiba-Case, what means in 25-30 episodes.

Added spoiler box - Abs.

[Detective Tommy]

Okiyas Next pointless cameo is in

Spoiler:

Chiba-Case, what means in 25-30 episodes.

Added spoiler box - Abs.

That many episodes!?
What will the next 25-30 episodes be about? All AO's?

[kentasaiba]

Just the half, 12-13, the rest manga.-

[HADAA]

That's a very interesting theory.
Are there any meaning in his name, or etc that might connect with the word "Bourbon" in Japanese?
Also, this might be stupid, but is Kir Japanese or American?
She works for the American CIA, but she looks Japanese.
(Unlike Jodie, James, and Camel who look American.)

No, Koumei's name only connects with the Chinese tactician Zhuge Liang, unrelated to Bourbon at all. But then again names in Conan's world can be fake. Or maybe not.

Kir is half Japanese half American. Her dad Ethan was American, mom's Japanese, and she and her brother Hondou Eisuke was born in Japan.

[Abs.]

But Ethan Hondou was Japanese-American, right? 

[dilbertschalter]

But Ethan Hondou was Japanese-American, right? 

Must have been, otherwise he wouldn't have a Japanese name.

[HADAA]

Ah yes, I was only focusing on explaining where Kir got her American blood from, so I didn't put any emphasis on Ethan's Japanese part

[Detective Tommy]

I see, because I was wondering why the Hondou's work for the CIA (In America), when they're Japanese.
What is the equivalent of the CIA in Japan?

[Chekhov MacGuffin]

I see, because I was wondering why the Hondou's work for the CIA (In America), when they're Japanese.
What is the equivalent of the CIA in Japan?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_Security_Intelligence_Agency I'm pretty sure.

http://www.globalsecurity.org/intell/world/japan/index.html Seems to be more comprehensive...

[Abs.]

They are Japanese-American.  Meaning their family is from Japan, but they are American (either naturalized or born in America).

[Detective Tommy]

Okay, I find it weird that they worked for the CIA and not the Japanese one: PSIA.
But I guess it's because they were born in America.

I would really be interested in learning more about Ethan Hondou prior to death.
During his CIA training and such.

[Abs.]

You can't work for another country's intelligence agency if you're not a citizen of that country

LOL I just realized this is technically wrong LOL

Oh America

[Detective Tommy]

You can't work for another country's intelligence agency if you're not a citizen of that country

LOL I just realized this is technically wrong LOL

Oh America

Why did you strike it out? Is it wrong?
I doubt the CIA would allow non-citizens to join the agency.
The chances of them being a spy are increased.