Ai + Conan

[Kor]

am I the only one who misses  Shiho?!I have the feeling that people like Haibara but they don't like Shiho(that would explain why so many people want Haibara to stay as a child in the end  )

That has nothing to do with that. Have you not been reading the reasons people gave you for why they think Haibara will stay as a child?
Regarding your question, we've barely seen enough on Shiho to actually miss her, and unlike Conan/Shinichi, the one we first got to know is Ai, and not Shiho. Because we haven't seen much of her, I would like to see her again, but since Gosho pulls Ai-related stuff only when it's connected to the B.O., the only time we'll get to see her is in a B.O. case, and as you know from the development in the manga (or more correctly, the NO development in the manga), not many have high hopes for a B.O. appearance, let alone Shiho apprearance, hench why probably not many people really speak of that issue.
I think we'll only see Shiho one more time. Despite the fact Ai said she doesn't want to take the pill yet, when Conan(/Shinichi) will be in danger, involving the B.O. (I'd say it would either be near the end, or at the final akai/bourbon/okiya confrontation), she will take the pill and come to save him.............somehow. (and then she will be the one in danger and then someone will rescue her. Either Akai or Conan, because no other character has gotten from Gosho an ego boost for no reason)

Again, on the subject, it's basically like Ai-Ran interaction - we know it exists but we don't see enough of it to speak about it.

[AICHAN]

am I the only one who misses  Shiho?!I have the feeling that people like Haibara but they don't like Shiho(that would explain why so many people want Haibara to stay as a child in the end  )

That has nothing to do with that. Have you not been reading the reasons people gave you for why they think Haibara will stay as a child?

I said that people want Haibara to stay as a child...(I also think she will probably stay as child  )
It's just that many people (in other forums) want Haibara  to stay as a child because they don't really know Shiho(which is logical since she only appeared once),and they only imagine Haibara as a child,not as an adult...I concluded it was the same thing in this forum...

Regarding your question, we've barely seen enough on Shiho to actually miss her, and unlike Conan/Shinichi, the one we first got to know is Ai, and not Shiho. Because we haven't seen much of her, I would like to see her again, but since Gosho pulls Ai-related stuff only when it's connected to the B.O., the only time we'll get to see her is in a B.O. case, and as you know from the development in the manga (or more correctly, the NO development in the manga), not many have high hopes for a B.O. appearance, let alone Shiho apprearance, hench why probably not many people really speak of that issue.
I think we'll only see Shiho one more time. Despite the fact Ai said she doesn't want to take the pill yet, when Conan(/Shinichi) will be in danger, involving the B.O. (I'd say it would either be near the end, or at the final akai/bourbon/okiya confrontation), she will take the pill and come to save him.............somehow. (and then she will be the one in danger and then someone will rescue her. Either Akai or Conan, because no other character has gotten from Gosho an ego boost for no reason)

yeah I agree with you...
let's hope Goho will make Shiho appear one day...I'm tired to see Haibara only with the DB,sometimes I forget she's an adult in reality moreover it feels like Haibara is excluded from the plot,I hope it'll change...
I expect to see Shiho when Akai will have to confront her(she has to know the truth about her sister afterall),but then again Gosho has to develop the BO plot...

[Detective Prince]

Shinichi and Shiho would be fools to go back to their old selves! I mean come on thats like an extra 10 years of living isn't it? Or does the APTX not reverse their longevity?

[TheBlind]

I don't think "liking Shiho" is related to "I want Haibara to remain like this in the end".
Can Shinichi use Agasa's gadget that he used while being Conan? because, if he doesn't have them, then remaining as Conan is the best option.

I don't see how the gadgets are a deciding factor as Agasa can most likely create a new version for Shinichi. The issue at hand is can Shinichi show restraint while in his normal body?
My opinion is that he cannot and past cases have shown he forgets the danger he is in while in his normal body. It seems he starts out cautious when he returns to his original body but then gets into such a comfort zone that he's starts to parade around in expensive restaurants, involving himself in police matters without knowing all the details, and make heroic entrances without knowing all the individuals present.

This could just be Gosho's writing at fault but his behavior as Conan and his behavior as Shinichi in relation to the Black Organization just clash. He's okay with taking Ran to a public restaurant where any member might spot him(and her) while having dinner but he's not okay telling Ran his true identity?
They both amount to the same thing and the only way to explain it(leaving Gosho out of this) is that he has an "Invisibility Complex" when he's in his normal body.

So I just can't see Shiho ever giving him that antidote if things remain the same aka B.O. never gets defeated. This could be an upcoming plot point if he ever realizes that perhaps said antidote has been completed.

I said that people want Haibara to stay as a child...(I also think she will probably stay as child  )
It's just that many people (in other forums) want Haibara  to stay as a child because they don't really know Shiho(which is logical since she only appeared once),and they only imagine Haibara as a child,not as an adult...I concluded it was the same thing in this forum...

I actually have no preference and don't see the difference. Unlike Conan, a persona which Shinichi makes real by acting the part, Shiho does not act like a little kid. She acts like herself, only withholding information from parties that "Need not to know" said information. So the only change in Shiho is her body and name, everything else "seems" to remain the same.
I'm not saying B.O. Shiho is the same as current Shiho/Ai but that is because of the death of her sister. It is not like she will revert back to that being if she takes the antidote OR if her sister turns out to be alive.  A drastic changed happened in her life and she adapted, there are no do overs for the human soul.

So, I'm with you, I don't get why people prefer Ai over Shiho or vice-versa. All I know if she does go back to being Shiho and gets a immunity from prosecution due to being an "FBI informant", she already has an awesome house waiting for her. Yeah, someone did get killed there but with the interior of that house looking so awesome, it can handle a few dead bodies.

[Kor]

I said that people want Haibara to stay as a child...(I also think she will probably stay as child  )
It's just that many people (in other forums) want Haibara  to stay as a child because they don't really know Shiho(which is logical since she only appeared once),and they only imagine Haibara as a child,not as an adult...I concluded it was the same thing in this forum...

But as you say, that makes sense.
I remember I read somewhere about polls regarding fans' "favorite sailor moon character" in which characters like Rei, and Sailor Mars, were two seperate choices, even though both are the same person, only one walks around in a sailor outfit and has super-powers. To me it seemed stupid, but hey maybe that's how people think. With Haibara it's even more critical since the change is bigger (only to some extent, as Blind said).

[Detective Prince]

You guys think Haibara will ever change her names character to "Love" instead of "Sorrow"?

[Yamamura]

You guys think Haibara will ever change her names character to "Love" instead of "Sorrow"?

It's bad enough that she won't change her hair, she doesn't need to be doing anything else that makes her stand out.  I don't think kids change their names very often.

[randompi314159]

You guys think Haibara will ever change her names character to "Love" instead of "Sorrow"?

I think she may, if she does at all, at the end of the show.

[TheBlind]

You guys think Haibara will ever change her names character to "Love" instead of "Sorrow"?

It's bad enough that she won't change her hair, she doesn't need to be doing anything else that makes her stand out.  I don't think kids change their names very often.

No, I can see her giving her daughter the Haibara name with the Love character if she returns to her Shiho life and gets married.

[Detective Tommy]

You guys think Haibara will ever change her names character to "Love" instead of "Sorrow"?

It's bad enough that she won't change her hair, she doesn't need to be doing anything else that makes her stand out.  I don't think kids change their names very often.

No, I can see her giving her daughter the Haibara name with the Love character if she returns to her Shiho life and gets married.

I don't think Haibara will return to being Shiho.

[Detective Prince]

I see no reason not too

[Detective Tommy]

I see no reason not too

What does she have when she's Shiho?
Her parents and sister is dead. She doesn't have a lover unless Shinichi begins to love her or something.
And nowhere to live..

[Detective Prince]

I see no reason not too

What does she have when she's Shiho?
Her parents and sister is dead. She doesn't have a lover unless Shinichi begins to love her or something.
And nowhere to live..

Well Ai has no parents nor a sister aswell. Although I would love for her to be with Shinichi, I don't see why she needs one and I don't think Agasa would kick her out just because she is 10 years older.

[Detective Tommy]

I see no reason not too

What does she have when she's Shiho?
Her parents and sister is dead. She doesn't have a lover unless Shinichi begins to love her or something.
And nowhere to live..

Well Ai has no parents nor a sister aswell. Although I would love for her to be with Shinichi, I don't see why she needs one and I don't think Agasa would kick her out just because she is 10 years older.

Haibara has friends. Ayumi, Genta and Mitsuhiko.
Also, you can tell she is a bit close to Ayumi because Haibara let's Ayumi call her Ai-chan or whatever.

- Haibara has friends (Ayumi, Genta, Mitsuhiko), a guardian (Agasa), more friends (Ran, Shinichi).
- Shiho has a roommate (Agasa).

[Detective Prince]

I don't know if Ai and Ran are friends just yet more like mortal enemies on the battlefield of love, but I don't see why Agasa can't still look after her. She still has Shinichi as a lover forever friend. She can probably still hang out with the DB depending on if Conan and Haibara even tell them about their little alter egos.