Bourbon's Identity: Who is Bourbon!?

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Re: Bourbon's Identity: Who is Bourbon!?

Postby baka1412 » July 5th, 2010, 11:15 am

Or it's just Gosho plot hole ?

He was trying to go with Akai = Gin theory that day..
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Re: Bourbon's Identity: Who is Bourbon!?

Postby terra » July 5th, 2010, 5:58 pm

baka1412 wrote:Or it's just Gosho plot hole ?

He was trying to go with Akai = Gin theory that day..


Did he really? Well, that would explain Akai's long hair when he first appeared...
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Re: Bourbon's Identity: Who is Bourbon!?

Postby Detective Tommy » July 6th, 2010, 1:27 am

terra wrote:
baka1412 wrote:Or it's just Gosho plot hole ?

He was trying to go with Akai = Gin theory that day..


Did he really? Well, that would explain Akai's long hair when he first appeared...


I don't see any evidence or any events that made Akai = Gin.
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Re: Bourbon's Identity: Who is Bourbon!?

Postby randompi314159 » July 6th, 2010, 7:21 am

Chekhov MacGuffin wrote:Just to add to that, Haibara flipped out when Akai drove by after the Panda case where James Black shows up.
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Ah, forgot about that time as well.
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Re: Bourbon's Identity: Who is Bourbon!?

Postby Detective Tommy » July 6th, 2010, 11:42 am

randompi314159 wrote:
Chekhov MacGuffin wrote:Just to add to that, Haibara flipped out when Akai drove by after the Panda case where James Black shows up.
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Ah, forgot about that time as well.


Proving that Okiya could  be Akai.

Also, how far do you guys think Haibara's BO sense goes? Like.. she can sense things 10 ft?

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Re: Bourbon's Identity: Who is Bourbon!?

Postby Nyarl » July 6th, 2010, 3:13 pm

Detective Tommy wrote:
terra wrote:
baka1412 wrote:Or it's just Gosho plot hole ?

He was trying to go with Akai = Gin theory that day..


Did he really? Well, that would explain Akai's long hair when he first appeared...


I don't see any evidence or any events that made Akai = Gin.
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They're both apparently left-handed. Haibara told Conan to note Gin was left handed at the end of Genta's Disaster (vol30.8-9/ep242), as if Gin's clothing and hair didn't make him conspicuous enough. James noted Shuuichi had cut his hair short recently. Yeah, Aoyama wanted people to jump to that conclusion, like Jodie==Vermouth. I really doubt it was a retcon instead of a planned-out false lead, though.
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Re: Bourbon's Identity: Who is Bourbon!?

Postby Detective Tommy » July 6th, 2010, 4:08 pm

Well it is physically impossible for Akai and Gin to be the same person.
They were on two completely different buildings.

Remember?
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When Gin was about to shoot Kogoro, but stopped. And he held up that bug with Conan's fingerprints. And Akai shot it. (Btw, this was an awesome scene). But this proves Akai =/= Gin.

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Re: Bourbon's Identity: Who is Bourbon!?

Postby Abs. » July 6th, 2010, 4:14 pm

The persons posting before Detective Tommy are talking about an intrigue that happened eons before that episode. 

When Conan was all like "WTF is up with this guy in the knit cap?  How does Ran know him?"  And all the shots of Akai stalking people, and being outside the Mouri Detective Agency all ominous-like.
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Re: Bourbon's Identity: Who is Bourbon!?

Postby Detective Tommy » July 6th, 2010, 4:15 pm

Abs. wrote:The persons posting before Detective Tommy are talking about an intrigue that happened eons before that episode. 

When Conan was all like "WTF is up with this guy in the knit cap?  How does Ran know him?"  And all the shots of Akai stalking people, and being outside the Mouri Detective Agency all ominous-like.


Isn't that the same episode Akai asked Ran why she was always crying?

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Re: Bourbon's Identity: Who is Bourbon!?

Postby Nyarl » July 6th, 2010, 4:19 pm

Detective Tommy wrote:Well it is physically impossible for Akai and Gin to be the same person.
They were on two completely different buildings.

Remember?
Spoiler:
When Gin was about to shoot Kogoro, but stopped. And he held up that bug with Conan's fingerprints. And Akai shot it. (Btw, this was an awesome scene). But this proves Akai =/= Gin.



Eh, I think the false lead expired in episode 345/volume 42, when Shuu saved Jodie. I'm not arguing Gin is Shuu, just that Aoyama wanted some folks to jump to that conclusion like he wanted people to assume that Vermouth was Jodie.
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Re: Bourbon's Identity: Who is Bourbon!?

Postby Detective Tommy » July 6th, 2010, 4:28 pm

Nyarl wrote:
Detective Tommy wrote:Well it is physically impossible for Akai and Gin to be the same person.
They were on two completely different buildings.

Remember?
Spoiler:
When Gin was about to shoot Kogoro, but stopped. And he held up that bug with Conan's fingerprints. And Akai shot it. (Btw, this was an awesome scene). But this proves Akai =/= Gin.



Eh, I think the false lead expired in episode 345/volume 42, when Shuu saved Jodie. I'm not arguing Gin is Shuu, just that Aoyama wanted some folks to jump to that conclusion like he wanted people to assume that Vermouth was Jodie.


Oh, probably. Did anyone even think that Shu = Gin?

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Re: Bourbon's Identity: Who is Bourbon!?

Postby Tanner-kun » July 6th, 2010, 5:13 pm

Detective Tommy wrote:
Nyarl wrote:
Detective Tommy wrote:Well it is physically impossible for Akai and Gin to be the same person.
They were on two completely different buildings.

Remember?
Spoiler:
When Gin was about to shoot Kogoro, but stopped. And he held up that bug with Conan's fingerprints. And Akai shot it. (Btw, this was an awesome scene). But this proves Akai =/= Gin.



Eh, I think the false lead expired in episode 345/volume 42, when Shuu saved Jodie. I'm not arguing Gin is Shuu, just that Aoyama wanted some folks to jump to that conclusion like he wanted people to assume that Vermouth was Jodie.


Oh, probably. Did anyone even think that Shu = Gin?

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Re: Bourbon's Identity: Who is Bourbon!?

Postby Detective Tommy » July 6th, 2010, 8:23 pm

Xcommando wrote:
Detective Tommy wrote:
Nyarl wrote:
Detective Tommy wrote:Well it is physically impossible for Akai and Gin to be the same person.
They were on two completely different buildings.

Remember?
Spoiler:
When Gin was about to shoot Kogoro, but stopped. And he held up that bug with Conan's fingerprints. And Akai shot it. (Btw, this was an awesome scene). But this proves Akai =/= Gin.



Eh, I think the false lead expired in episode 345/volume 42, when Shuu saved Jodie. I'm not arguing Gin is Shuu, just that Aoyama wanted some folks to jump to that conclusion like he wanted people to assume that Vermouth was Jodie.


Oh, probably. Did anyone even think that Shu = Gin?

or ai=vodka


Conan is Gin.
Yeah, and Ayumi is Vermouth.
Korn is Mitsuhiko.
And Genta is the BOSS!

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Re: Bourbon's Identity: Who is Bourbon!?

Postby Wakarimashita » July 6th, 2010, 8:37 pm

That's why Genta is desperate for immortality, he wants to continue eating eel rice for ages.  :o
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Re: Bourbon's Identity: Who is Bourbon!?

Postby Detective Tommy » July 6th, 2010, 8:52 pm

Wakarimashita wrote:That's why Genta is desperate for immortality, he wants to continue eating eel rice for ages.  :o


THAT MAKES SO MUCH SENSE! OH MY GOD!

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