[768-770] Jeet Kune Do: Sera's Identity Speculation Thread

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Poll runs till May 25th, 2052, 5:24 pm

Eisuke
7
7%
Shuuichi Akai's little brother
3
3%
FBI member
0
No votes
CIA member
0
No votes
BO member
1
1%
Haibara's future hubby <3
6
6%
Bourbon
4
4%
Shuuichi Akai
4
4%
Vermouth
2
2%
Kaitou KID
11
11%
Just a new character
25
24%
The murderer
2
2%
Shinichi's new rival
22
21%
Anokata
5
5%
Can't decide
11
11%
 
Total votes: 103
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Re: File 768-??? Jeet Kune Do (ライãƒ

Postby Kleene Onigiri » March 10th, 2011, 8:03 am

"Someone also said that the only other human test was a guy who escaped."
Yeah. During the firefly case Haibara said that the serial murderer was part of the BO and was supposed to be one of the first human beings that the APTX should be tested on. But because he escaped, they couldn't test it.
Probably a reason why they used it on Shinichi instead too :P But yes. It's still a great risk to use the poison on Shinichi without knowing the effects of the APTX for sure.

"I just wanted to correct the "Humans took the APTX before Shinichi" statement :P Even though they did."
No, they didn't. Tell me who took it then (besides Vermouth maybe, but we can't know that/ it's just speculation for now)

"Don't know why you put in some other facts/arguments into that when no one is arguing about it (here or at least me).They pertain to the argument that then it would be okay is Akai used it."
But Akai could take the APTX even tho there is just a small chance that he'll survive and shrink. Just because it's suicidal doesn't mean it's impossible.
In Camels case, he also risked his live when they wanted to get Kir back into the BO. This means that the FBI would risk their lives in order to take down the BO.
More of a question would be, how Akai got some APTX if he really did take it imo.
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Re: File 768-??? Jeet Kune Do (ライãƒ

Postby kyuuketsuki » March 10th, 2011, 11:33 am

ProfParanoia... The only problem with your Eisuke arguement is that.... HE JOINED THE CIA! NOT THE FBI! To my knowledge they do not train in the same way. The CIA learns TKD iirc. Also not enough time has passed. Also we know Eisuke, and unless he was a fantastic actor and played everybody for fools and was actually a martial arts master when he was around, I don't think it could be him.
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Re: File 768-??? Jeet Kune Do (ライãƒ

Postby JohnTitor » March 10th, 2011, 9:49 pm

Nuts. At last, after bunches of mediocre cases, Gosho finally introduced a new character. That can't be a disguise, we're overloaded with disguises. And if this doesn't lead to any development...
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Re: File 768-??? Jeet Kune Do (ライãƒ

Postby ProfParanoia » March 10th, 2011, 9:59 pm

kyuuketsuki wrote:ProfParanoia... The only problem with your Eisuke arguement is that.... HE JOINED THE CIA! NOT THE FBI! To my knowledge they do not train in the same way. The CIA learns TKD iirc. Also not enough time has passed. Also we know Eisuke, and unless he was a fantastic actor and played everybody for fools and was actually a martial arts master when he was around, I don't think it could be him.
But we agree on the fact that unless he did already know it he wouldn't have had the time to learn Jun Fan JKD?

Also, unrelated, but do you know why they would learn TKD? Seems like an odd choice for the CIA with TKD being a big kicking style.
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Re: File 768-??? Jeet Kune Do (ライãƒ

Postby shihokudo » March 10th, 2011, 10:35 pm

JohnTitor wrote:Nuts. At last, after bunches of mediocre cases, Gosho finally introduced a new character. That can't be a disguise, we're overloaded with disguises. And if this doesn't lead to any development...


but we don't know whether this new character is going to be canon or even if he really IS a new character (though he prob is)

btw, do you think that the new guy learnt Conan's name from hearing Ran or do you think he already knew?
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Re: File 768-??? Jeet Kune Do (ライãƒ

Postby Abs. » March 10th, 2011, 10:44 pm

shihokudo wrote:but we don't know whether this new character is going to be canon
If it's in the manga, it's canon. No worries.
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Postby shihokudo » March 10th, 2011, 10:47 pm

but we don't know if the CHARACTER will be canon like Eisuke.
do you think that he'll be there only for this case or that he'll come back later on
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Postby Katty008 » March 10th, 2011, 10:53 pm

With an intro like this, he's totally going to be a recurring character. If he isn't, there will be riots from the fangirls.
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Postby shihokudo » March 10th, 2011, 10:55 pm

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Re: File 768-??? Jeet Kune Do (ライãƒ

Postby kyuuketsuki » March 10th, 2011, 11:10 pm

ProfParanoia wrote:
kyuuketsuki wrote:ProfParanoia... The only problem with your Eisuke arguement is that.... HE JOINED THE CIA! NOT THE FBI! To my knowledge they do not train in the same way. The CIA learns TKD iirc. Also not enough time has passed. Also we know Eisuke, and unless he was a fantastic actor and played everybody for fools and was actually a martial arts master when he was around, I don't think it could be him.
But we agree on the fact that unless he did already know it he wouldn't have had the time to learn Jun Fan JKD?

Also, unrelated, but do you know why they would learn TKD? Seems like an odd choice for the CIA with TKD being a big kicking style.


Oh silly Prof.... TKD = The way of kicking and punching... You refer to the sport style... There is a military style that is much different and much more effective. 

But really, I don't know why they specifically chose TKD... I'd assume it is a case of availability and effectiveness...
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Re: File 768-??? Jeet Kune Do (ライãƒ

Postby ProfParanoia » March 10th, 2011, 11:31 pm

I was aware of combat style, I've seen secret service training but even then it's the kicks are a bigger focus (that could be due to gun laws but w/e).

It just came off as a strange choice for a group like the CIA, it probably is availability.
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Postby shihokudo » March 11th, 2011, 1:42 am

now that you mention it....
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Re: File 768-??? Jeet Kune Do (ライãƒ

Postby BlackToffy » March 11th, 2011, 7:05 am

ProfParanoia wrote:I was aware of combat style, I've seen secret service training but even then it's the kicks are a bigger focus (that could be due to gun laws but w/e).

It just came off as a strange choice for a group like the CIA, it probably is availability.


They choose it maybe because it requires strength and swiftness to be in the CIA and TKD is a martial art which need  those qualities  so they used it to train members of the CIA :|

Back to topic:
Maybe it's Eisuke whom discovered that he was a master of jeet kune do (which maybe he inherited it from his father )  after the FBI changed his identity  ???
or he just happened to train with a master of jeet kune do  8-)
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Re: File 768-??? Jeet Kune Do (ライãƒ

Postby ProfParanoia » March 11th, 2011, 7:52 am

BlackToffy wrote:They choose it maybe because it requires strength and swiftness to be in the CIA and TKD is a martial art which need  those qualities  so they used it to train members of the CIA :|

Strength and swiftness, well you're right that's uncommon in martial arts and is totally not general :|.
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Postby Cheesus » March 11th, 2011, 11:08 am

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