Chekhov's theories about the plot

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Re: Chekhov's theories about the plot

Postby Chekhov MacGuffin » June 26th, 2011, 1:20 am

Pretty much everything has been updated.

Edit: I saw that ghost post about Itakura's program by the way, Robyn.
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Re: Chekhov's theories about the plot

Postby KokoConan » July 25th, 2011, 5:50 pm

am i the only one who thinks this topic is huge and "WoW." :o?

WoW. I'll just say that.
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Re: Chekhov's theories about the plot

Postby Sherry86 » July 27th, 2011, 8:57 pm

May I ask a question?
Do the FBI, except Akai, know that Haibara Ai aka Sherry is Miyano Shiho?
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Re: Chekhov's theories about the plot

Postby Stopwatch » July 28th, 2011, 4:59 am

Sherry86 wrote:May I ask a question?
Do the FBI, except Akai, know that Haibara Ai aka Sherry is Miyano Shiho?

Jodie and James Black seem to know there's a connection between them and since they know Chris Vinyard = Sharon Vinyard, I'd say they probably do know. However, there's never any indication about whether they told other agents (like Camel) about it.
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Re: Chekhov's theories about the plot

Postby Sherry86 » July 28th, 2011, 10:29 pm

I don't know, it seems they don't know about it.
They hadn't noticed Okiya, even after they saw Scar Akai.
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Re: Chekhov's theories about the plot

Postby leokiko » July 29th, 2011, 9:22 pm

There are a few things that gave away this Akai is alive thing after watching Clash of Red and Black again(b4 reading this thread):

The fact that Conan mentioned the Agasa's Beetle as a plan even though it is known afterwards that they already had made a plan to counter-attack them. I thought it was weird and watched that part again, and the zoom in the cellphone was suspicious.

Of course, I didn't think through all of that. This post was just awesome.
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Re: Chekhov's theories about the plot

Postby Stopwatch » August 14th, 2011, 6:49 pm

@Chekhov: In this post, you have the 'Okiya probably knows Conan's identity' section as 'anime safe' despite it containing spoilers from recent manga files. Just pointing it out :).
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Re: Chekhov's theories about the plot

Postby Chekhov MacGuffin » August 14th, 2011, 7:58 pm

Stopwatch wrote:@Chekhov: In this post, you have the 'Okiya probably knows Conan's identity' section as 'anime safe' despite it containing spoilers from recent manga files. Just pointing it out :).
Thanks for pointing that out. I've been super busy the past few days, so apologies for not getting to it sooner.
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Re: Chekhov's theories about the plot

Postby WolfenAmphithere » August 20th, 2011, 11:05 pm

8D Has Chekhov returned?! YAY!
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Re: Chekhov's theories about the plot

Postby rrizqiw » September 24th, 2011, 3:44 am

i just want to make simple (and random) deduction and bookmark this post in case it correct  :P

Subaru basically Bourbon AKA akai in disguise. he been told by BO to investigate people around Shinichi. at same times to protect them

Sera basically Chris vineyard that drink another Apotoxin just to disguise herself. bascally share same task with Bourbon but she investigate kogoro instead
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Re: Chekhov's theories about the plot

Postby WolfenAmphithere » September 24th, 2011, 8:28 pm

Subaru basically Bourbon AKA akai in disguise. he been told by BO to investigate people around Shinichi. at same times to protect them


I actually like this idea; Gin doesn't seem to like Bourbon much anyway, so maybe he's got some kind of gut instinct he can't pinpoint XD
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Re: Chekhov's theories about the plot

Postby sstimson » September 26th, 2011, 6:32 am

I know I am going to get shot down, But I still believe that DC is just not that predictable. It is still possible that Gosho Aoyama could turn all your theories on their head. Beware trying to read too much into as yet unknown events.

And I still think Bourbon does not exist. Think this way. Why would the BO let a possible spy ( even they know, they got her back way too easy ) know about an important member of the BO unless it is misinformation. Granted it would be nice to know how Hairbara acts if / when she hears about the code word "Bourbon". She should know a lot about the BO and its personal.
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Re: Chekhov's theories about the plot

Postby Kor » September 26th, 2011, 12:10 pm

sstimson wrote:I know I am going to get shot down, But I still believe that DC is just not that predictable. It is still possible that Gosho Aoyama could turn all your theories on their head. Beware trying to read too much into as yet unknown events.

And I still think Bourbon does not exist. Think this way. Why would the BO let a possible spy ( even they know, they got her back way too easy ) know about an important member of the BO unless it is misinformation. Granted it would be nice to know how Hairbara acts if / when she hears about the code word "Bourbon". She should know a lot about the BO and its personal.


Bourbon is supposed to be a new member, so it's possible that she has no idea who the heck he is.
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Re: Chekhov's theories about the plot

Postby believer08 » September 26th, 2011, 1:27 pm

I'm sorry if this is not the correct section or somebody asked the same before me but... what about scar Akai being Bourbon, Okiya beeing Akai and Sera being Akai's sister? It makes sense to me, what do you think?

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Re: Chekhov's theories about the plot

Postby sstimson » September 26th, 2011, 2:52 pm

Kor wrote:
sstimson wrote:I know I am going to get shot down, But I still believe that DC is just not that predictable. It is still possible that Gosho Aoyama could turn all your theories on their head. Beware trying to read too much into as yet unknown events.

And I still think Bourbon does not exist. Think this way. Why would the BO let a possible spy ( even they know, they got her back way too easy ) know about an important member of the BO unless it is misinformation. Granted it would be nice to know how Hairbara acts if / when she hears about the code word "Bourbon". She should know a lot about the BO and its personal.


Bourbon is supposed to be a new member, so it's possible that she has no idea who the heck he is.



Sorry, but that is very unlikely. I do not believe you can just sign up for the BO like you do the armed services. I sure you must work your way up the organization and must be need the top to get an alcohol code name. It likely takes years to get to that level. Hairbara would know if someone like that was on their way up. This is even more true if my crazy Theory is right (Hairbara still part of BO). Kir should also know if someone is moving up. I agree it is possible they just got to the code name stage. But still that person should be know to those two.

And again I ask my question. You have just got back an old member of the code name club. This member claimed to have killed a FBI agent that shortly later is found alive (Camel). If I am this agency, I start to think that the returning member is a spy and would make sure this person is very well watched and not told what is really happening. I might make up a fake agent to further test them and tell some of the main agents to make the new fake look real. That would explain why Gin was talking. Please notice that one necessary listener is in the car. That would be Kir. Also notice at the end she still alive. Think about it. She has maybe lied twice about who she killed. Why keep the spy alive?
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