Chekhov's theories about the plot

[Abs.]

5) Yoko's boyfriend from high school, who was still in love with her, killed her in her apartment, but the photos and creepy phone calls and moved furniture were the work of Yuko Ikezawa, trying to unnerve her and find something to cause a scandal.

You do realize that YÅ

[mangaluva]

5) Yoko's boyfriend from high school, who was still in love with her, killed her in her apartment, but the photos and creepy phone calls and moved furniture were the work of Yuko Ikezawa, trying to unnerve her and find something to cause a scandal.

You do realize that YÅ

[Vicky]

I forgot two questions before:

4) In chapter 287, it seems that Vermouth is asking Gin to have a 'intimate' night together ("Want to make some Martini?"), have I interpreted it right? Is it OK to write these things in a Shonen?

You did. xD. Although in the anime version of the episode, Chris’s words were altered possibly due to it being inappropriate for younger viewers (and how obvious they laid it out). I’m assuming that it’s okay for manga, but not for anime with its rating.

[kkslider5552000]

there's been far worse in Shonen manga

[Vicky]

True fact. DC's pretty light on this stuff, I think, but with its rating, it's understandable why they had to alter stuff for the anime. ._.

[User 4869]

There are some unclear parts to me:

1) In the case in which Conan and Ai meet Pisco, did Ai see Chris Vinyard? If I remember correctly she felt the presence of a member of the BO, she confirms this on the bus hijack case.

2) After the case in the restuarant (where Shinichi & Ran and Yusaku and Yukiko went), Conan asks Ai other APTX 4869 antidotes but she doesn't want to give them, at that point Conan says that he should have said that to Ran earlier. There are two possibilities: that he loves her or that Shinichi and Conan are the same person, I think the latter is the correct one. After that, the DB together with the Professor and Ai go to the pool while Conan goes back to the detective agency. The DB notice that Ai is in a good mood (she is singing/humming), why is she happy?
Is it because she ate curry for lunch? (Genta FTW )

3) In the bus hijack case, how come Dr. Araide (Vermouth in disguise) didn't notice that the one beside him is Akai? I've written beside him because they were chosen by the hijackers to wear their clothes and trick the police, so she should have seen Akai's face without the mask.

1 In the Busjacking case. Ai said she sense "another one" while picture Chris's face in her mind. So I believe she saw and know Vermouth by that point (since Pisco case).

2 I think he want to tell her he love her. If he want to to tell her about his identity why take the antidote in the first place. It not that Ran won't believe. Ran already believe even he denied. The Bo threat is more a problem. For Ai part it could be imply like that (she love him and don't want him to confess) Or if you want another idea. Ai think it would hurt Ran feeling, like she point out in a recent manga case.

3 Akai cut his hair, has his face-mask. And Vermouth probably want to draw FBI's attention to Conan in the first place mean she must aware of FBIs and just play innocent.

[WolfenAmphithere]

True fact. DC's pretty light on this stuff, I think, but with its rating, it's understandable why they had to alter stuff for the anime. ._.

I find it funny that in America they actually bother putting ratings on manga... It's not like anyone who knows that even cares-- Most people don't even know that they have content ratings xD

[kkslider5552000]

There is no plot in Detective Conan, I have no idea what Chekhov was talking about.

[kkslider5552000]

There is no plot in Detective Conan, I have no idea what Chekhov was talking about.

I get it, next time I'll open a thread.

No you don't get it. Remember kids,

rule #1 of Detective Conan: You do not talk about Detective ConanThere is no plot in Detective Conan.

[Suutashi]

1 In the Busjacking case. Ai said she sense "another one" while picture Chris's face in her mind. So I believe she saw and know Vermouth by that point (since Pisco case).

2 I think he want to tell her he love her. If he want to to tell her about his identity why take the antidote in the first place. It not that Ran won't believe. Ran already believe even he denied. The Bo threat is more a problem. For Ai part it could be imply like that (she love him and don't want him to confess) Or if you want another idea. Ai think it would hurt Ran feeling, like she point out in a recent manga case.

3 Akai cut his hair, has his face-mask. And Vermouth probably want to draw FBI's attention to Conan in the first place mean she must aware of FBIs and just play innocent.

Thanks.

There is no plot in Detective Conan, I have no idea what Chekhov was talking about.

I get it, next time I'll open a thread.

mel just ignore slider; he's being sarcastic.

[Vicky]

True fact. DC's pretty light on this stuff, I think, but with its rating, it's understandable why they had to alter stuff for the anime. ._.

I find it funny that in America they actually bother putting ratings on manga... It's not like anyone who knows that even cares-- Most people don't even know that they have content ratings xD

No kidding. Not to mention, kids play video games with contents that’s far worse than what most manga offers. XD.

[kkslider5552000]

1 In the Busjacking case. Ai said she sense "another one" while picture Chris's face in her mind. So I believe she saw and know Vermouth by that point (since Pisco case).

2 I think he want to tell her he love her. If he want to to tell her about his identity why take the antidote in the first place. It not that Ran won't believe. Ran already believe even he denied. The Bo threat is more a problem. For Ai part it could be imply like that (she love him and don't want him to confess) Or if you want another idea. Ai think it would hurt Ran feeling, like she point out in a recent manga case.

3 Akai cut his hair, has his face-mask. And Vermouth probably want to draw FBI's attention to Conan in the first place mean she must aware of FBIs and just play innocent.

Thanks.

There is no plot in Detective Conan, I have no idea what Chekhov was talking about.

I get it, next time I'll open a thread.

mel just ignore slider; he's being sarcastic.

the irony of you of all people not taking me seriously is tremendous 

[Jd-]

the irony of you of all people not taking me seriously is tremendous 

Or... insightful...

[User 4869]

Jodie take picture of Araide in the school festival. Why? She interest in him. So that Araide must be Vermouth by that point. The idea of stealing case come up (presumably) after establish herself as Araide successfully but found out she have to gave testimony in court, and by stealing all Kogoro case, draw FBI's attention to Kogoro's (Conan's) family at the same time.

[mangaluva]

In file 330 (Satou's Feelings), when Conan takes Dr. Araide's glasses, we can see a sort of shadow on Dr. Araide's forehead, what is it? His hair?

Looks to me like an awkwardly-drawn eyebrow.

I was reading Chekhov MacGuffin's Dr. Araide-Vermouth timeline and there is a thing I don't understand:

File 251: Ariade will substitute for the role of the Knight in the school play who will kiss Ran. Araide and Vermouth likely switched at this point as Araide later confesses that he has no idea about what is going on at the school.

So it means that first she disguised as Dr. Araide and only later took the cases which involved Kogoro? I thought she was interested in Dr. Araide's case (his father's death) to better understand his character. To confuse the police she took them all so they wouldn't understand she was interested in a specific case. Wasn't it better to first take the files and only after disguise?

As I understand it, she took the files after she became Araide because she realized that she'd have to testify in court, and took them all to disguise what file she was after and also probably to misdirect Conan with becoming paranoid that the Organization were on his trail.

About Ai's feelings towards Conan:
In file 337 (The Missing Watch), Conan says that he doesn't want to see Ran cry anymore, even if this means that he cannot tell her his feelings. After this Ai thinks "pitiful...both you and I".
I think it means something like this: Conan doesn't tell Ran his feelings because he doesn't want to hurt her (since he cannot turn back to Shinichi, and she would miss him even more), in the same way, Ai doesn't tell Conan about her feelings because she would hurt Ran (she started considering her a "friend" after Ran said that phrase about courage, or maybe even before).
What do you think?

I think she just feels that they're both pathetic because neither of them can tell the person dearest to them that they love them.