Chekhov's theories about the plot

[awriterofthings]

Wow, this is a very well thought out delve into world, style and nature of Detective Conan. It's going to take me forever to read. But already I can both cringe and admire the amount of hours such a monumental task would have taken.

I have my own speculations about the plot line. But I never made as detailed an analysis as this.  Just wow.

[Abs.]

Yeah, Chek's pretty amazing <3

[casualvgm]

http://www.citymanga.com/detective_cona ... er-191/20/
HAIBARA AI: just perfect for you, im really 18. ....
HAIBARA AI: just kidding..
conan: what? what?

Do you know what it means? and Shiho Miyano really 18 age?

[Abs.]

She "reveals" that she's 18.

Who knows whether she was telling the truth, lying, or joking?

Until Aoyama gives her a name and age box, it's anyone's guess

However, she can't be older than Akemi.

[User 4869]

Both Conan (after she telling him her age) and Jodie say she's "about 20" so 18 is pretty accurate. Unless 2-4 years difference is significant in some way.

[Dus]

Jodie says that?O.o When? How? And Conan's guess is as good as anyone's, he's only seen her in her adult form once.

[Abs.]

Unless 2-4 years difference is significant in some way.

It is  :D  Depending on who you ask!  Also, it's maddening to figure out DC timeline matters...  See Chekhov for what I mean, especially relating to Haibara's age.

[User 4869]

IIRC Jodie say that when she face Vermouth, talking about the picture of the woman in Vermouth room which is "about 20" and ask Vermouth if the woman relate to Haibara.
Conan can base "about 20" on her own statement in ep131 or the look of her (a glimpse) in 178.

t's maddening to figure out DC timeline matters<<<

Yes. A moment ago I read Chek say Haibara is a scientist when she was 13. Why? Because Akai start to date Akemi 5 year ago. She must be a important scientist then or Akai won't bother. If she 18 now mean she at least 13 when she take the APTX project.

And age box is not entirely reliable, given that "Chris" is 29 when she appear.

[AICHAN]

Yes. A moment ago I read Chek say Haibara is a scientist when she was 13. Why? Because Akai start to date Akemi 5 year ago. She must be a important scientist then or Akai won't bother. If she 18 now mean she at least 13 when she take the APTX project.

When she was 13?
I can't imagine Shiho being responsible of such an important project,at the age of 13...I know she's mature,but still...
when Jodie said Shiho is around 20,I thought she's 19 or 21...that would be more realistic with APTXproject
Moreover I don't think she has more the 5 year difference with Akemi,but we don't know Akemi age right?

[User 4869]

Yes. in Akemi's first appearance. She try to appear younger than her actual age (disguise as a daughter of an old man.). So give her actual age (or name) would be a giveaway.

[casualvgm]

She "reveals" that she's 18.

Who knows whether she was telling the truth, lying, or joking?

Until Aoyama gives her a name and age box, it's anyone's guess

However, she can't be older than Akemi.

Aoyama Gosho not directly addressed about Akemi age, Shiho age.  Is it true?
Akemi Age: Around 25 ??/ Shiho age: Around 20 or (18 originally)
i don't know..  (i think Shiho age: 19)

[Vicky]

I think Shiho’s actually 18. I think, according from what it looked like and other episodes and her sarcastic personality, she was "just kidding" about the "just perfect for you." remark. Although it was cute with Shinichi’s reaction nonetheless. xD.  And give or take, more than likely Akemi's just a few years older than Shiho from what it looks like.

[mangaluva]

1) It's possible, since Chris was hanging around the chandelier a lot and Conan spent a while watching all of the suspects. Then again, we see her standing on the other side of a table from the suspcects, hiding behind the tablecloth, and Pisco doesn't spot her until she and Conan try to leave the room, so it's possible that neither of them were ever in line-of-sight of the other. I get the impression that she would have recognized Vermouth the moment she saw her.

2) I think she's happy that Shinichi didn't tell Ran that he loved her. This was before she got close to Ran, so I think she felt that as long as Shinichi and Ran hadn't actually said that they loved each other, she still had a chance.

3) I'm not sure if Vermouth ever met Akai before- was it ever stated? It's entirely possible that she never saw his face before. And even if she had, Dr Araide hadn't, had he? She was keeping in-character and thus had no reason whatsoever to react to Akai or act oddly around him.

[Abs.]

The "stalker" is the rival actress, trying to make life hard for YÅ

[mangaluva]

2) I do think it's heavily implied that Ai has feelings for Conan, but I don't think she wants to act on them anymore. I don't think they've "dropped", precisely, but she seems to have an almost sisterly regard for Ran now, and I think she wants both of them to be happy. (I think a big indicator of her feelings towards Conan is how she acts towards Ran early on. She seems to dislike Ran and doesn't want to talk to her, but also doesn't want to look like she's "running away" from her, in case it looks like she's giving in. Though this probably wouldn't look that way to anyone else, Ai's feelings being rather inscrutable, but she's clearly a bit paranoid when it comes to her feelings XD)

3) We only see into Vermouth's thoughts once, and only at a time that could easily trick us into thinking that Jodie was Vermouth. Remember, at the time most people thought Jodie was Vermouth, and Jodie never saw Shuu's face on the bus. That Vermouth was Araide was a huge plot twist at the time, remember. Peeking into Vermouth's thoughts about Akai would be a ridiculously unsubtle spoiler.

4) She's flirting with him, but she knows he'd never take her up on it, so really she's just messing with him. Since Ran has elsewhere had daydreams about Shinichi sleeping with other women, it's not like it's the most explicit reference in the series Besides, it's a manga series about brutal and numerous murders; it's not aimed at a young age group anyway XD Just because it's shonen doesn't mean it's for little kids.

5) Yoko's boyfriend from high school, who was still in love with her, killed himself in her apartment, but the photos and creepy phone calls and moved furniture were the work of Yuko Ikezawa, trying to unnerve her and find something to cause a scandal.