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Yusaku Kudo Is The Head Of Black Organization (I guess)

Posted: June 5th, 2008, 10:49 pm
by rira
It's my opinion, Yusaku is te Head of BO, based on:

1. The virus which killed datas in Haibara's disk about APTX named "Night Baronesse".
2. In the chapter about Pisco, the password in the warehouse where Haibara was prisoned is about detective.
3. Neither Agasa or Mouri could be the head of BO because Haibara doesn't react like her general reaction when she meets any BO member.
4. Haibara never meet Yusaku, so maybe Gosho hide this moment. I think Gosho never show the scene where Haibara meet Yusaku. Maybe if that happened, Haibara will be react.
5. Why Yusaku doesn't worry about Shinichi and let him stay in Japan (not forced him to go to America)?

Re: Yusaku Kudo Is The Head Of Black Organization (I guess)

Posted: June 6th, 2008, 1:43 am
by aimforksc
No father will put his child into this kind of fatal danger of:
1.The drug that might kill him and may never change back
2.The guys that might kill him
rira wrote: 5. Why Yusaku doesn't worry about Shinichi and let him stay in Japan (not forced him to go to America)?
Because he understand Shinichi loves Ran (imagine the reason why Shinichi didn't move to the US with his parents)

And based on what dirty & nasty things the BO did, a man like Yusaku will never be the head.
Come on, give me a break...

Re: Yusaku Kudo Is The Head Of Black Organization (I guess)

Posted: June 6th, 2008, 2:08 am
by Aluecard
on the spot  8)

Re: Yusaku Kudo Is The Head Of Black Organization (I guess)

Posted: June 6th, 2008, 3:52 am
by rira
aimforksc wrote: No father will put his child into this kind of fatal danger of:
1.The drug that might kill him and may never change back
2.The guys that might kill him
rira wrote: 5. Why Yusaku doesn't worry about Shinichi and let him stay in Japan (not forced him to go to America)?
Because he understand Shinichi loves Ran (imagine the reason why Shinichi didn't move to the US with his parents)

And based on what dirty & nasty things the BO did, a man like Yusaku will never be the head.
Come on, give me a break...
Yes, because he doesn't want to kill Shinichi, so he protect him from his own Organization.
Why do u think vermouth is doing everything to save Conan from BO?
The head of BO must be someone who the reader never guess.
Like the "Doomsday Conspiration novel" by Sidney Sheldon which the main antagonist is Admiral Whittaker who protect the main protagonist so well.
It's necessary to put Yusaku in our list suspect.

Re: Yusaku Kudo Is The Head Of Black Organization (I guess)

Posted: June 6th, 2008, 4:21 am
by aimforksc
Vermouth is doing everything to save Conan from BO is because Shinichi and Ran saved her in NY
She is trying to make it even. (That killer in NY chased by FBI was actually herself disguised.)
After that event, Ran became her "angel"
Check TV 345 286-288
If Vermouth really is all on Shinichi's side, she'll never want to kill Haibara.
Vermouth didn't kill her is because Shinichi and Ran's unexpected move not because Yusaku or whatever she is Shinichi's mother's friend.
rira wrote: The head of BO must be someone who the reader never guess.
It's necessary to put Yusaku in our list suspect.
Yes, until anyone is proved "guilty" the rest of the group may all be suspected.
But if Aoyama really do this kind of decision, fans all over the world will go to Japan and snap at him.
After struggling with Conan all these years, the end of the end is something like trash? Seems impossible.

Re: Yusaku Kudo Is The Head Of Black Organization (I guess)

Posted: June 6th, 2008, 4:35 am
by rira
aimforksc wrote: Vermouth is doing everything to save Conan from BO is because Shinichi and Ran saved her in NY
She is trying to make it even. (That killer in NY chased by FBI was actually herself disguised.)
After that event, Ran became her "angel"
Check TV 345 286-288
If Vermouth really is all on Shinichi's side, she'll never want to kill Haibara.
Vermouth didn't kill her is because Shinichi and Ran's unexpected move not because Yusaku or whatever she is Shinichi's mother's friend.
rira wrote: The head of BO must be someone who the reader never guess.
It's necessary to put Yusaku in our list suspect.
Yes, until anyone is proved "guilty" the rest of the group may all be suspected.
But if Aoyama really do this kind of decision, fans all over the world will go to Japan and snap at him.
After struggling with Conan all these years, the end of the end is something like trash? Seems impossible.
No...no....For me it's not just like a trash.
Many world class writer do that (putting someone that never guessed by the reader normally).
Like Sidney Sheldon, Dan Brown, even Sir Conan Doyle.
So I think gosho will do the same.
And the suspects are Agasa, Mouri, Yusaku, even Hattori, etc.

Re: Yusaku Kudo Is The Head Of Black Organization (I guess)

Posted: June 6th, 2008, 7:00 am
by SuperMAG
any one can be BO boss

like megure ...how can inspecter be this stupid and let others solve cases for him...

or more importantly i am suspecting  inspector sheratory for the following reasons:

1- because he likes alcohols and has a big room full of it. every BO has a name referred to alcohol. gin, vodhka, veramouth etc.

2- because he is rich and dosent need money. may be a spy on police etc or may be he likes to save people like he is creating drug for youth and rise the dead etc ...

3- if you watched his actions and think about it. he think alot and relaise alot of stuff etc. even he want a brigde by his name etc. some points cannot be described by words.

hahaha was i thinking too much.

Re: Yusaku Kudo Is The Head Of Black Organization (I guess)

Posted: June 6th, 2008, 7:19 am
by Shin-chan
rira wrote: 1. The virus which killed datas in Haibara's disk about APTX named "Night Baronesse".
"There was once a virus that entered computers from big businesses and messed with the data...  It was perfectly programmed.  Impossible to stop or find.  It was so elusive that people began calling the virus this: Night Baron!"
--Volume 8, File 2

The implication in that quote is that the virus was not named by the organisation.  And even if it was, that wouldn't be so suspicious as they obviously have a mystery fan in the ranks...
2. In the chapter about Pisco, the password in the warehouse where Haibara was prisoned is about detective.
This Sherlock trivia is definately the most interesting clue.  The series is full of characters who are into mystery novels but I don't recall any of the organisation members being among them.  It might be Bourbon but that's just speculation at this point.
3. Neither Agasa or Mouri could be the head of BO because Haibara doesn't react like her general reaction when she meets any BO member.
We don't know how effective Haibara's radar is.  It certainly didn't work on the one unimportant guy and it's on-and-off for Okiya.  The boss has a tendency to not take part in operations so it is very possible that Haibara never actually met them while she was in the organisation.
4. Haibara never meet Yusaku, so maybe Gosho hide this moment. I think Gosho never show the scene where Haibara meet Yusaku. Maybe if that happened, Haibara will be react.
This probably doesn't count but they were in the same room during movie 6.  Otherwise, so what?  There are plenty of characters that haven't met each other.  If anything, a more suspicious point is that he always stays in the background while Yukiko gets the spotlight over and over again.  But, then again, Yukiko's a more fun character so Gosho can do more with her.

And speaking of Yukiko, she's already got the angst of an old friend being evil without her husband turning out to be the ultimate evil (and also cheating on her since Vermouth is apparently the favourite).
5. Why Yusaku doesn't worry about Shinichi and let him stay in Japan (not forced him to go to America)?
He did offer Shinichi the chance to leave the country in his first appearance but Shinichi refused and Yusako accepted that he has his reasons to stay.  He's a big boy - he can make his own decisions.  Yusaku also offered to use his contacts in Interpol, which the boss would probably not do.

The possibility is there but those five points aren't enough to single him out.

Re: Yusaku Kudo Is The Head Of Black Organization (I guess)

Posted: June 6th, 2008, 7:29 am
by Aluecard
that so true

Re: Yusaku Kudo Is The Head Of Black Organization (I guess)

Posted: June 7th, 2008, 12:46 am
by detective eye
good day everyone

i will not discuss about who is the head of the black organization becuase i dont think that he is one from the characters that Gosho Aoyama  show yet .
he will be new one .
but mabye he will be one this one :
1-Gosho Aoyama is the head fo the black organization he will draw him self ^_^ i think this is possible about 80% XD

for me i think that Gosho Aoyama will make his character more evil and very Complex and samrt why i say that becuase i dont think that someone like Gin will like to be undersomeone only if that one is smarter and more evil .
have good day

Re: Yusaku Kudo Is The Head Of Black Organization (I guess)

Posted: June 7th, 2008, 2:00 pm
by jason
Sherlockian has pretty much mentioned about who might be the B.O. Boss anyways. Take a look:

http://holmesstudy.fopim.com/post9065.html?sid=056a3696c275a002d9fa88126bac914a#9065

He quotes stuff from one of Gosho's books and Gosho himself gives out hints of who the B.O. Boss is.

Re: Yusaku Kudo Is The Head Of Black Organization (I guess)

Posted: June 8th, 2008, 9:13 pm
by rira
actually, it's smple.
the head of BO, I guess, is not a new figure.
he's a figure that the reader never guess, but he's already exist in this journey.
what I called simple is, BO member always wear Black.
and as long as this story flow, Yusaku Kudo is the one who always wears black clothes.

Re: Yusaku Kudo Is The Head Of Black Organization (I guess)

Posted: June 9th, 2008, 2:23 am
by jason
rira wrote: actually, it's smple.
the head of BO, I guess, is not a new figure.
he's a figure that the reader never guess, but he's already exist in this journey.
what I called simple is, BO member always wear Black.
and as long as this story flow, Yusaku Kudo is the one who always wears black clothes.
Someone wearing black doesn't always mean that you're part of the B.O., there are other characters in the series that have worn black clothes from time-to-time. But apparently, Gosho has stated and hinted that it's someone that Haibara really trusts and would never think that he/she would be the leader of the B.O. So it would be either her mother or father, or even her sister.

Re: Yusaku Kudo Is The Head Of Black Organization (I guess)

Posted: June 9th, 2008, 2:54 am
by rira
jason wrote:
rira wrote: actually, it's smple.
the head of BO, I guess, is not a new figure.
he's a figure that the reader never guess, but he's already exist in this journey.
what I called simple is, BO member always wear Black.
and as long as this story flow, Yusaku Kudo is the one who always wears black clothes.
Someone wearing black doesn't always mean that you're part of the B.O., there are other characters in the series that have worn black clothes from time-to-time. But apparently, Gosho has stated and hinted that it's someone that Haibara really trusts and would never think that he/she would be the leader of the B.O. So it would be either her mother or father, or even her sister.
Wow, I don't know about that hint, Jason.
So it might be agasa.
In which volume Gosho stated and hinted it?

Re: Yusaku Kudo Is The Head Of Black Organization (I guess)

Posted: June 9th, 2008, 10:49 am
by jason
It's in a book called Mysteries and Secrets Revealed! Volume 19: The Case Closed Casebook. I'm not sure specifically which file he stated it, but he said that the Boss had appeared in the Manga in some form, that's all he said. but click on the link I provided a couple posts above to read an excerpt from the book.