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List here things that we (and other characters as well) know about DC-verse that Shinichi doesn't (or presumably doesn't) know:

1) That Ran was there at the Jodie-Vermouth confrontation.  [Haibara, Akai, Jodie, and Vermouth know.  Ran knows too, but she doesn't know the truth of what went down.]
2) That Akai knows about Haibara.  (Shinichi knows that Akai knew Shiho, but he still doesn't know that Akai knows Haibara=Shiho, and therefore knows about the shrinking.)
3) Vermouth is supposedly the Boss' favorite.  [Everyone in the BO knows.]
4) Megure and Agasa are loversCamel's supposed lie about his wife calling him.  [Only Jodie knows.]

4) Megure and Agasa are lovers Camel's supposed lie about his wife calling him.  [Only Jodie knows.]

But Camel's lie about calling his wife was part of Akai and Conan's plan to make him the driver (also when he hit jodie, remember?)

Mizzicco wrote:

4) Megure and Agasa are lovers Camel's supposed lie about his wife calling him.  [Only Jodie knows.]

But Camel's lie about calling his wife was part of Akai and Conan's plan to make him the driver (also when he hit jodie, remember?)

Uh.. so him making Jodie suspicious, and then hitting Jodie was part of the plan?  I kind of like that. 

lol

what shinichi doesn't know? wow...that's kind of a tough one, Shinichi/Conan is a know-it-all, I'd probably find him super annoying in real life.

Well, He doesn't know..

Kaito Kid's true identity.
Black Organization's true goal
Why Vermouth is so kind to him (easily just gaveup on Sherry)
Haibara's feelings towards him

List here things that we(and other characters as well) know about DC-verse that Shinichi doesn't (or presumably doesn't) know

Black Organization's true goal

We don't know too, right?

Why Vermouth is so kind to him (easily just gaveup on Sherry)

And why is that? We don't know.

Haibara's feelings towards him

You mean "love"? There isn't any. It's just a scenario for fans.

maybe she was feelings for him but we don't know of course 

eworm wrote:

Why Vermouth is so kind to him (easily just gaveup on Sherry)

And why is that? We don't know.

well,we know that,Shinichi and Ran saved Vermouth in New York(golden apple, in vol35),that's why she's kind with conan,and she doesn't want to put Ran and Kogoro in danger

Haibara's feelings towards him

You mean "love"? There isn't any. It's just a scenario for fans.

hmm,if you think there isn't any feelings because she never said  "i love you "to Conan,then  the others DC girls also aren't in love...really,DC is more subtle than that... well,i don't want to debate  about that subject here...

eworm wrote:

List here things that we(and other characters as well) know about DC-verse that Shinichi doesn't (or presumably doesn't) know

Black Organization's true goal

We don't know too, right?

Why Vermouth is so kind to him (easily just gaveup on Sherry)

And why is that? We don't know.

Haibara's feelings towards him

You mean "love"? There isn't any. It's just a scenario for fans.

We have a general gist of what the BO wants, at least more than what Conan knows.  Conan knows about the nostrum to bring back the dead, their use of computer engineers, and APTX.

It's not a stretch to think that they may be heading toward some sort of goal for immortality Same deal with Vermouth's attitude.  As the audience, we have a general sense that Vermouth wants to bring the BO down..in her own weird/strange reasons.  She refers to Akai-kun and Kudou-kun as "silver bullets", which Conan is not aware of.

While I can see you're point in that our views on these two topics are very obscure, we at least have an advantage over what Conan knows.


BTW, you're just being ignorant if you can't admit that Haibara has/had feelings for Conan.  It's so blatantly obvious, its not even funny.

Ok.. so far we have:

1) That Ran was there at the Jodie-Vermouth confrontation.  [Haibara, Akai, Jodie, and Vermouth know.  Ran knows too, but she doesn't know the truth of what went down.]
2) That Akai knows about Haibara.  (Shinichi knows that Akai knew Shiho, but he still doesn't know that Akai knows Haibara=Shiho, and therefore knows about the shrinking.)
3) Vermouth is supposedly the Boss' favorite.  [Everyone in the BO knows.]
4) Kaitou Kid's true identities - remember, two different people played the role [Yuusaku knows about the first, and so would easily be able to deduce the second if he hasn't done so already.]
5) That Vermouth has some kind of death wish for the organization, and calls Akai and Shinichi her "silver bullets"
6) That Shiho has/had some feelings for him other than just fascination at the results of her experiments

I'm adding

7) That Akai liked to drink Bourbon.  (Even if Akai were still alive, I don't think that's something Akai would tell Conan.) [Jodie, James, and Camel know.  Well, Akai too.]
8 ) That Jodie and Akai were going out before the Dai/Akemi thing came about.  [Jodie, James, Camel, Akai know.]

a) Shinichi doesn't know what Chianti and Korn look like. He may have glimpsed them a little when saving Kogoro, but he couldn't have gotten a very good look at them. He probably doesn't even know their genders.
b) Shinichi also doesn't know Haibara saved the floppy from the Hyde City Hotel.
c) Shinichi doesn't know that the org has been around for fifty or so years.
d) I don't think Shinichi knows what Haibara's mom said on the tapes since it seems like he stopped listening soon after he figured out who was speaking.
e) Conan may not know Vermouth hasn't aged since a plane was flying over when Jodie asked that question and Conan was in the car. Shinichi may suspect it though. Does Conan know that Chris = Sharon = Vermouth? (Yes he does according to posters below.) I think he does since the plane was done flying over by then. He was unconscious when Akai bloodied Vermouth's face and proved she wasn't wearing a disguise.
f) Shinichi doesn't know Vodka was at the Halloween party.
g) Shinichi doesn't seem to know Vermouth has a grudge against Haibara's research since he was asleep.
h) Shinichi doesn know that Gin and Vermouth escaped the tranquilizer needle/knockout gas by shooting themselves although Agasa may have told Conan about the bang he heard after Vermouth knocked him out in her car. (see Abs.'s post below for why this is wrong.)

Abs. wrote: 1) That Ran was there at the Jodie-Vermouth confrontation.  [Haibara, Akai, Jodie, and Vermouth know.  Ran knows too, but she doesn't know the truth of what went down.]

I think Conan does know. Ran was the one who called the police and he may have heard Ran's deed afterwards from Haibara or Jodie. I am sure they were questioned by the police.

Chekhov MacGuffin wrote: I don't think he knows what Haibara's mom said on the tapes since it seems like he stopped listening soon after he figured out who was speaking.

True.. but we also don't really know enough about what Shiho's mom said on the tapes.  The only one that knows is Shiho herself.  We can't tell if it's important info or not.

Chekhov MacGuffin wrote: Conan may not know Vermouth hasn't aged since a plane was flying over when Jodie asked that question and Conan was in the car.

I keep going over that, because that scene begs the question, "What is the purpose of that *$&*#& plane!!??!!??"  But Jodie essentially repeats herself after the plane had passed.  She goes on to say that Vermouth's too young to have been the murderer of her parents 20 years ago but the prints match, etc.

Shinichi wasn't there to hear Akai's comment about how due to the appearance of the wounds it was her "true face" that was showing, and not another mask.  But Shinichi saw it for himself when they were alone in the car.  Unless he didn't notice it.

Shinichi not notice something?  Blashphemy!

Hey stop editing your posts when I'm replying to them! 

Jokes.

Chekhov MacGuffin wrote: h) Shinichi doesn know that Gin and Vermouth escaped the tranquilizer needle/knockout gas by shooting themselves although Agasa may have told Conan about the bang he heard after Vermouth knocked him out in her car.

Shinichi knows about Vermouth, he saw the blood on the car seat.

Chekhov MacGuffin wrote:

Abs. wrote: 1) That Ran was there at the Jodie-Vermouth confrontation.  [Haibara, Akai, Jodie, and Vermouth know.  Ran knows too, but she doesn't know the truth of what went down.]

I think Conan does know. Ran was the one who called the police and he may have heard Ran's deed afterwards from Haibara or Jodie. I am sure they were questioned by the police.

Hmm.. at the very least he doesn't know that Ran saved Haibara by using her body as a shield, and that Vermouth wouldn't shoot Ran.

Abs. wrote: I keep going over that, because that scene begs the question, "What is the purpose of that *$&*#& plane!!??!!??"  But Jodie essentially repeats herself after the plane had passed.  She goes on to say that Vermouth's too young to have been the murderer of her parents 20 years ago but the prints match, etc.

The plane bothered me too. Maybe it was so Ran wouldn't hear? I don't think Ran could have heard the rest of the conversation clearly anyway since she was in the trunk. Perhaps Jodie was speaking quietly after that, so Shinichi couldn't hear after the plane... You couldn't prove that though. Also Shinichi's mom knows about Sharon...

Vermouth not shooting Ran would have probably confirmed Shinichi's suspicion the serial killer in NY was Vermouth in disguise and why she didn't want to kill Conan either.

Didn't Conan tell Yukiku that Chris and Sharon are the same person?

Yeah, he did.