Discussion Thread: Detective Conan 1,035–1,038

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Discussion Thread: Detective Conan 1,035–1,038

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1,035 spoiler pics are now out.

There'll be no break next week—we can expect 1,036 spoilers at this time, next week.

Here are the translations of the pics we have so far, courtesy of Fujiwara:
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File 1035: Carved Black Lacquer Tray

Next to Agasa: A grinning professor...

In this must-read opening chapter of a new case,
we encounter the desire to be surrounded by antiques!

Next to ConAi: And two pairs of eyes full of scorn...

Page 6:
Conan: S-Subaru-san?!

Okiya: I got a lot of cherries from an acquaintance of mine...

Okiya: So I came to share some with you...

Conan: More importantly, was there someone in the area around the gate?

Okiya: Yes... There was... A bike helmet-wearing...

Okiya: Girl was there!

Sera: Huh?

Sera: Conan-kun?

Sera: Why are you here?!

Conan: I-I came early this morning to take care of something!

Okiya: Speaking of which, what was the result of the appraisal of that antique?

Agasa: I was just about to head over there and find out!

Agasa: The appraiser said he would also show me an interesting appraisal object...

Okiya: An interesting appraisal object?

Page 12:
Culprit (thoughts): That's my tray!

SFX: huff huff huff huff huff

Agasa: Nishitsu-san!

Agasa: Where are you?

Agasa: Nishitsu-san!

Agasa: Nishitsu-sa-

Page 16:
Sera: There's no tray...

Sera: anywhere though...

Toujima: So noisy...

Toujima: Who exactly are you people?

Chouno: You're not some scoundrels aiming to take my tray, are you?

Sakamaki: Would you please leave if your're outsiders?

Box 1: Toujima Motoyuki (41) Appraisal client

Box 2: Chouno Kinji (74) Appraisal client

Box 3: Sakamaki Suzue (46) Appraisal client

Side note: The suspects for the murder of the appraiser appeared?!

Continues in SS #29
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No plot progression no discussion.
Just one point Haibara is still anxious about an inquisitive Masumi, but told Conan to let Rumi off the hook??
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I think this is the first time Ai meets Masumi, they haven't really been around each other before, so she doesn't know her. What I wonder about is why Masumi doesn't explain things to Conan and asks him nicely for help/the antidote (or whatever they want from him) or why Conan doesn't ask her what she's up to. He has already figured out her mom's condition, but doesn't put it forward for discussion. So is he not all that interested in their situation or has he already a grand plan in the works?
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ultraviolence wrote:What I wonder about is why Masumi doesn't explain things to Conan and asks him nicely for help/the antidote (or whatever they want from him) or why Conan doesn't ask her what she's up to.
well, we know Masumi's side of things. Mary put that plan down after his behavior in Soul detective case. Conan on the other hand has always been overly cautious and secretive to the point that even Subaru hasn't been let in on his secret identity. We'll have to wait for an incident that forces or pushes forward such development I guess.
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Yes, you're right, MeiTanteixX - guess I'm too impatient (just like Rum apparently is^^).
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ultraviolence wrote:I think this is the first time Ai meets Masumi, they haven't really been around each other before, so she doesn't know her.
Actually, they have meet during the ride in the Bell Tree Express (Chapter 819) - Haibara was in some kind of shock because she was thinking about Scarakai and she was terrified about the BO being on the train. I can't really remember the discussions about it because it was such a long time ago, but in my opinion she is aware Sera is some kind of relative to Akai.

Also, this is the first time Sera and Okiya have been together since the Bell Tree Express (yes, it's been that long, lol). But more importantly, the first time since Mary was introduced to the series. As Okiya may not be aware of Mary's whereabouts and condition or even existence, let alone her involvement in the story, this could (!) become very interesting. I'm hoping for some kind of slip on Sera's side or maybe even Conan mentions Mary in some way. And let's not forget Haibara is there, too. I know this is Gosho we're talking about, but this case could be very plot moving, indeed.

edit: Now that I think about it, it's pretty clear Akai knows about Mary's condition - he was able to see through Haibara's and Conan's after a relatively short amount of time. I guess that's only possible if you have someone with a similar condition in your family. But nevertheless, I get the feeling that by the case's end we will have some progress in the plot. Not by much, mind you - this is still Gosho - but I'll take anything over more meaningless detective boys stuff.
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Yes, you're right, they had that short encounter before, but this is the first time they are around each other for a longer time and talk to each other.

I agree this case already looks really good and promising with the two Akai siblings and Ai present at the scene, let's hope for a good development or a nice revelation.
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This case reminds me of the Black Bunny cafe case, the case might get resolved in 3-3.5 chapters, the last 1-.5 chapters will have something like Akai-Bourbon meeting.
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Here are 1,036 text spoilers, courtesy of Spimer:
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Megure and Takagi come to the crime scene to examine it along with the forensics and the coroner after being contacted (by the group).

Okiya deducts that the culprit stabbed Nitsuji (the victim) over the plate.

All 3 clients brought their dishes inside of boxes.

Sera deduces that one of them put the real plate in their box after the murder.

(The police) start questioning the 3 clients about their names, professions and alibii at 2PM, when the crime happened.

The salaryman from a securities company, Toujima, found a dish identical (to the one shown in the TV show) inside of a shed he inherited from his grandfather, who died last year.

It's not like he was specially troubled with money but he asked (for the appraisal) to (get some savings) for when he retired.

At the time of the crime, he was told to wait in the reception with the other 2 until Agasa arrived, yet...

When he went to the restroom, he got lost and couldn't get back into the room; he heard the fuss made by the footsteps and came to th crime scene.

The ex-real estate business CEO, Chouno, currently retired, was sure that the plate he bought 20 years before for 10,000 Yen was the real deal; if it was fake he'd be shamed in front of his family. After Toushima left for the restroom, he was with the other client in the reception for a while but since he's unable to stay still, he went to the study and read a book on antiques; he then heard the footsteps like Toushima did and headed (to the crime scene).

Sakamaki, the art gallery director, was asked by the owner to have the dish appraised to know its value since they wanted to use as the main exhibit of the gallery, which had been renewed and would soon open again. She says she was in the reception when the time of the crime but says that, at first, she wasn't alone since there were 2 housekeepers there as well.

Chiba brings them in; Sakamaki told them she disliked sweet things and asked if they had something salty; after guiding Toujima to the restroom and Chouno to the study they went to a nearby store to buy rice crackers as well as buy the ingredients for the dinner.

The victim's son and his wife also live in the house but they're currently out on a family trip.

Sera deduces that that the 3 clients lack alibis and could've killed the victim. The spear has a long handle so you won't be stained by blood if you stab th victim after striking him, but Conan says that the culprit must've put the real dish on their box so they should figure it at once; Haibara also says that having another appraiser check the dishes would make it "very clear indeed" who's the culprit.

Sera cross-examines Haibara, saying that her words are unusual for her age and asks her for her real age and if she swallowed a drug like Conan did but Okiya says that nowadays kids use smartphones so they can look up difficult words that picked their interest. He has Agasa play along saying that he might say "difficult words" often.

They are about to ask for another appraiser but the 3 clients say that the culprit might've put the dish in an empty box they casually found around; they suggest someone else who had a grudge with the victim did it and made it look like the dish was their aim; they argue, annoyed, that it's unfair to be treated as the culprit even if the real dish is in one of their boxes; nevertheless, things won't proceed without an appraiser; but calling for a famed appraiser takes time.

Agasa, pointed out by Conan that the victim, before dying, said that the dish in front of him was the real one, should have bloody marks of the victim's fingers; Okiya and Sera deduce that the culprit noticed that and took profit of the situation to put marks on the other 2 dishes, too.

They ask Agasa if the real one had any other traits that made it stand out; when he turned the dish horizontally the crane's beak position was in the same location (as the other face); they might tell (the real one) by doing that; they do that but the 3 dishes didn't have blood in the beak; the 3 clients sigh, saying that the whole "tell it" was but a waste of time.

Sera, reactiong to the word, then asks Subaru how could he tell she was a girl despite that he hadn't mistaken her for a guy (and she didn't correct him).
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I see Sera finally became more straightforward about things. I hope that at the end of the case Conan will question her about the drug and why she knows about it. And maybe Okiya too.
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Well..... the only link i see about this case in relationship with RUM is the fact that the 3 suspects are 2 male and 1 female~
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And.... if we are to assume that Gosho's hint about RUM being LUM is for real.... then.... the female is highly suspicious then... not to mention that the bloody finger marks on the plate somehow resembles the claw marks on LUM's bra and that scar on RUMi's arm. :P
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Nah, the finger thing is but a coincidence. And the LUM drawing was but a joke, a chance to make a pun.

Others say that the fact there's 3 trays and 2 of them are fake it's a hint saying that, obviously, only one of the 3 RUM suspects is the real one.
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When will be the next file out ?
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File 1036 released last Wednesday, Jume 19th.

Files 1037 and File 1038 will release on June 26th and July 3rd, respectively.
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Here are 1,037 text spoilers, courtesy of Fujiwara:
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- Akai and Conan find out that Akai mom shrunk
- Sera gets a clue that Okiya = Shuuichi
- Sera asks for the drug that can return the flow of time to the way it was, from which Shuuichi and Conan conclude that she knows someone for who the flow of time was reversed.
- Also Sera says that her Mom "used to" have large breasts.
- Conan deduces that Mary is MI6
- Tsutomu was asked to investigate Haneda's mysterious death by Haneda's dad, a family friend, travelled to the US to do so, and encountered an "unbelievable opponent" in the process
- On Tsutomu's command, Sera fam hides their Britishness and moves to Japan
- All this was when Mary was pregnant with Masumi, and Tsutomu said he wanted to see his daughter, so he'd solve the case and return
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Well, looks like Tsutomu wasn't present at the scene of the crime, at the time of the crime—he was targeted by the BO after the fact, when he came investigating.
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