What's the identity of Rum?
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I had a thought that Kir specially wrote "RUM" to show a better impact on this name. If one would receive a mail just with "Rum" it could be considered kinda awkward. If all the letters are capitalized, it shows some significance to the word that is capitalized. And also it looks less awkward.
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Erm, no I don't usually do things like that.Spimer wrote:@Kor: but I saw the RAW file and it wasn't written in capitals on the RAW file. She pronounced it as if it was a normal name. Both in the 1st and 3rd file of that case. I think Fuji might've decided to put it on caps to refer to previous files but it wasn't written in capitals or Alphabet in the raw to begin with.

Here's the manga cap from file 906:

Haibara clearly uses caps to refer to RUM.
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@Fujiwara: Alright. I forgot that. But if you check the other files then she doesn't spell it in capitals nor does Conan think of the guy in capitals either. You may argue that he didn't see the message Akai got and didn't know Kir spelled it on capitals but I've got the feeling that the whole discussion over the capitals is a red herring on Gosho's part.
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In the Japanese Raws Haibara always sticks to RUM in all capitols.Spimer wrote:@Fujiwara: Alright. I forgot that. But if you check the other files then she doesn't spell it in capitals nor does Conan think of the guy in capitals either. You may argue that he didn't see the message Akai got and didn't know Kir spelled it on capitals but I've got the feeling that the whole discussion over the capitals is a red herring on Gosho's part.
When Conan is talking about Yamato-keiji he uses the Katakana. It is not said in lower case in the Japanese Raws.
Compare the below image's lettering to what you are looking at and make sure you aren't looking at a translation
into another language. Any scans found on Baidu are probably the Chinese translations.

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@jimmy_kud0_tv2: I do know how to tell a Japanese raw from a Chinese scanlation. And I've translated a lot of stuff in Japanese: katakana mostly is used to transcribe foreign words like Gin, Vodka, etc. They're not translated into capitals. Have you seen anyone write GIN or VERMOUTH in the scans? No, right?
Sorry if the above part sounded harsh: it's late night and tiredness is making me feel slightly irated.
My point is: the "RUM" thing may be a red herring (the capitals standing for something: I don't doubt that the man exists).
But, oh well. Anyone is free to have his/her opinion: I'm just stating my opinion.
I apologize again if I sounded hostile or harsh.
Sorry if the above part sounded harsh: it's late night and tiredness is making me feel slightly irated.
My point is: the "RUM" thing may be a red herring (the capitals standing for something: I don't doubt that the man exists).
But, oh well. Anyone is free to have his/her opinion: I'm just stating my opinion.
I apologize again if I sounded hostile or harsh.
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It's one thing for Conan, because you can argue that he heard the details from Akai, but the fact that Haibara uses caps here is noticeably weird. It can't be in reference to Kir's message at all, because she doesn't know about that. So why does she use caps? Even if it's a red herring, there must be a reasonable explanation for it, otherwise it's just trolling.Spimer wrote:@Fujiwara: Alright. I forgot that. But if you check the other files then she doesn't spell it in capitals nor does Conan think of the guy in capitals either. You may argue that he didn't see the message Akai got and didn't know Kir spelled it on capitals but I've got the feeling that the whole discussion over the capitals is a red herring on Gosho's part.
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When Haibara says Rum it always comes out "RUM" in all capitols in the Raws. When Conan said it, it was in Katakana in the raw. The reason why its pointed out that RUM being in all capitols being weird is as you say above, normally katakana would not be translated into all caps. Earlier in the series when Conan is explaining that "Berumoto" was just the Japanese pronunciation of Vermouth, his speech bubble had the V capitalized and the rest in lower case... but now a code name has appeared that when spoken in word bubble by a character who can speak english (haibara) appears in all capitol letters "RUM". Because this seems unique, and this is a detective series where literally anything can be a clue to something else, people have a legitimate reason for thinking that it does mean something.Spimer wrote:@jimmy_kud0_tv2: I do know how to tell a Japanese raw from a Chinese scanlation. And I've translated a lot of stuff in Japanese: katakana mostly is used to transcribe foreign words like Gin, Vodka, etc. They're not translated into capitals. Have you seen anyone write GIN or VERMOUTH in the scans? No, right?
Sorry if the above part sounded harsh: it's late night and tiredness is making me feel slightly irated.
My point is: the "RUM" thing may be a red herring (the capitals standing for something: I don't doubt that the man exists).
But, oh well. Anyone is free to have his/her opinion: I'm just stating my opinion.
I apologize again if I sounded hostile or harsh.
The reason so many replies happened is because you said " in the scriptwriter case Haibara called RUM "Rum" without the capitals", which is false (as you can see from Fuji's post). I though the reason for this might have been that you saw it in a language other than Japanese where the specific translators may have made it lower case, which would be their fault not yours. I did not mean to offend you. My initial post was in response to peoples thoughts that it could mean something. I thought it very interesting that those specific acronyms existed and that it could contribute to this thread, being a thread of Rum identity speculation. It all very well could be a red hearing, but its still worth looking at since we most likely still have a long time until we get any kind of confirmation on RUM's identity.
Also I've noticed a lot recently that lesser known manga cites are uploading the Chinese translations and labeling them as a Japanese raw. This could be simply because they don't know the difference, or that they think that any translation is good as long as it gives us the images for the file before the English comes out.
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@jimmy_kud0_tv2: I admit that I was wrong about the scriptwriter case.
And I admit that Fuji has a point on Haibara mentioning the capitals despite not knowing the message Akai got.
Oh well. Guess it's pointless to speculate at this stage: there's not enough info.
And I admit that Fuji has a point on Haibara mentioning the capitals despite not knowing the message Akai got.
Oh well. Guess it's pointless to speculate at this stage: there's not enough info.
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This may be a little "Captain Obvious" but with the exception of the Bourbon arc, usually the person the arc is named after....especially with BO, appears immediately or within the first 20 episodes or something. The only exception so far has been the "Bourbon arc" where it took ages for us to meet Tooru Amuru.Spimer wrote:@jimmy_kud0_tv2: I admit that I was wrong about the scriptwriter case.
And I admit that Fuji has a point on Haibara mentioning the capitals despite not knowing the message Akai got.
Oh well. Guess it's pointless to speculate at this stage: there's not enough info.
Correct me If I'm wrong but I think with the Haibara arc it happened in the very first episode, Conan Arc we don't need to go there he is the title character

Like I just said the Bourbon arc is the only exception
Hopefully the pattern starts again because I am sure most of us don't want to wait years again lol. Let us all cross our fingers that we have a list of definite candidates by March.
PS. Gosho needs to add some new FBI members. I know some are dead but the full list of the BO members is alot more than FBI and it just makes it look very unbalanced.
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I'm going with Komei for the obvious reason that he's the least likely.
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I guess its just hard to see him being Gin's "Boss".unclesporkums wrote:I'm going with Komei for the obvious reason that he's the least likely.
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Other than he's the most unlikely, have u considered the RUM descriptions, especially the artificial eye? Are u claiming they were just random gossips, or something like him being a master in disguise?unclesporkums wrote:I'm going with Komei for the obvious reason that he's the least likely.
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I think if Koumei is RUM, he will be the feminine part of RUM (if RUM consists of 3 people) and not RUM himself. As Meitantei already said, he misses the artificial eye and as of yet has to show some disguising skills.
Personally, I suspect the old guy to be RUM. All BO members introduced were entirely new characters and I don't think that Gosho will change that pattern. Besides, the old man fits RUMs description almost perfectly.
Personally, I suspect the old guy to be RUM. All BO members introduced were entirely new characters and I don't think that Gosho will change that pattern. Besides, the old man fits RUMs description almost perfectly.
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No, he could have an artificial eye, and it doesn't look like it. I don't see why you're assuming I think that way..MeiTanteixX wrote:Other than he's the most unlikely, have u considered the RUM descriptions, especially the artificial eye? Are u claiming they were just random gossips, or something like him being a master in disguise?unclesporkums wrote:I'm going with Komei for the obvious reason that he's the least likely.
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sorry if I wasn't clear...unclesporkums wrote:No, he could have an artificial eye, and it doesn't look like it. I don't see why you're assuming I think that way..MeiTanteixX wrote:Other than he's the most unlikely, have u considered the RUM descriptions, especially the artificial eye? Are u claiming they were just random gossips, or something like him being a master in disguise?unclesporkums wrote:I'm going with Komei for the obvious reason that he's the least likely.
I Wasn't assuming that u thought that way, I was simply asking if that was what you were claiming, since u just said it could be koumei without any explaination other than him being least expected... but shouldn't koumei look at least a little as though he was in an accident? scars and burns can't usually be avoided during eye accidents...
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