Identity of Sera's middle brother (Spoilers)

[Detective Doroshi]

That could be possible. But we still don't know how it can be that Sera does not know where he is or what he is doing, although Shuikichi is popular. But I wouldn't be surprised if ever Shukichi was Sera's brother. But the only thing I still do not understand is their varying surnames. Whether it's for Shuuichi, Sera and Shuikichi, how can it be that they have got such varying surnames? It's quite strange.

[User 4869]

Why Sera didn't know what her brother is doing. Just my opinion ofcause
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Three surnames
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[Detective Doroshi]

Why Sera didn't know what her brother is doing. Just my opinion ofcause
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Three surnames
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Oh yeah, I see for about "not knowing what the middle bro is doing". But when did their father died? Because when they (Shuikichi and Yumi) were at school, Shuikichi had already the surname Haneda. So, how could it be that he changed his surname so quickly still being a high/middle-schooler (by two times, I guess)? It's a bit strange for someone being that young to change his surname twice. (Usually it takes some time for getting your surname changed and it costs) The more, when Shuikichi was at school, Sera was probably very young. She should thus probably know that his brother changed his surname (if Shuikichi is the middle bro, of course)

[Jd-]

I'm just hoping the point behind the middle brother is revealed soon. Thus far, there's no real bearing on the plot--all of Okiya/Akai's story came and went without him, and if we take Sera at her word (she's lied about several things already, it seems, so we maybe shouldn't), she hasn't received any aid from him either. So... thus far, he's not really done anything that even extraneously relates to the happenings of the Conanverse if it's not Shuukichi.

(Still hoping it's a ploy/red herring and there is no middle brother; will cut down the number of ongoing red herrings if so)

[soul_dreamer]

I also wonder what the middle brother's role would be, because if his role is only to help Sera in solving cases, then I will be disappointed. It has to be something plot related.

@Jd-: If there's no middle brother, then who texted Sera in file 860-1? Also what would be the point for Sera to lie about having the middle brother.

[Nemomon]

We for sure know that she's messaging someone about the cases. Whether he's her middle brother, Akai himself (and she lied that he's dead; she just don't know where he is) or some other mysterious person. And that person recognizes Conan. Could it be that Shuukichi trusts him after seeing him in action just once? I would rather bet that the messages Sera gets are from Akai who knows Conan very well.

[Aslinn]

Well, even if Shuukichi seems like to be the only one who can be the middle brother, there's nothing in file 899 which prove it... And i have to say that i am glad about it. I don't like the idea of this guy being a part of the Akai family... So, I agree with Nemomon. Maybe someone else speak to Shuukichi about Conan.

By the way, am I the only one who think that Shuukichi reeeeally look like Eisuke in the last chapter? Did anyone think about this theory?
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[soul_dreamer]

If he is so similar to Eisuke, shouldn't Conan notice the similarity? Besides, what would be the point to introduce new member of Hondou's family unless of course he would be related to CIA/BO plot, though I kind of ask myself the same question, if Shuukichi is the middle brother. What is his purpose in the storyline, besides Yumi, Shogi and talking with Sera about cases. If the middle brother would be the mystery child, then we would already know his purpose.

[Nemomon]

I didn't notice any similarities with Eisuke, but actually I would love if Eisuke would back. And CIA plot. The FBI took control over the whole Conan plot. The CIA plot was so tiny that one as well could not notice that there were some CIA addons. And now the secret police is trying to rip away some plot for themselves. CIA is sad.

[Detective Doroshi]

If he is so similar to Eisuke, shouldn't Conan notice the similarity? Besides, what would be the point to introduce new member of Hondou's family unless of course he would be related to CIA/BO plot, though I kind of ask myself the same question, if Shuukichi is the middle brother. What is his purpose in the storyline, besides Yumi, Shogi and talking with Sera about cases. If the middle brother would be the mystery child, then we would already know his purpose.

About the middle brother being the mystery child, I would bet little on it(though I could be wrong as well)
If we look at the File 899, the mystery child wears a dress. So.. I guess it can't be a boy wearing a dress like this in her own hotel room, alone with Masumi. Plus, if we remember well, the mystery child said that she didn't trust Conan yet, oppositely to the middle brother who said that "if it's [Conan], it's ok"
So the mystery child being the middle brother would be quite impossible.

[Aslinn]

@soul_dreamer : It's true that Conan should have notice it, but, I have the impression that he keeps more and more often a pokerface lately.

About the similarities between eisuke and shuukichi, it's the eyes and, during the file 899, his expressions that make me wonder. Plus the fact that the unknown child really intrigues me.

When I first saw him/her, I immediately thought he is the middle brother. But this impression is based on the french translation of volume 18, so it can be false due to an incorrect translation... I explain : during this volume, haibara said that might be the black organisation know that Kudo has shrunk of/by (sorry i don't know what to use here) 10 years. I read the scan to see how this sentence had been translated in english and found any mention of this. But since Shiho seems to have also shrunk of 10 years, can we think that Aptx 4869 rejuvenate of almost 10 years or just to a young age? (is it clear? I'm not sure... -_-""")

I don't want to say that this child is absolutly the middle bro, it can be totally someone else. But, right now, i can't think of him/her as sera's mother. This child is about 10-12 years old and the mother, at least, 49 years old => 29 ( approx. shuichi's age) + 20 = 49
So, how the mother can shrunk of 35-40 years? :s

And for the dress : Shuichi wore high collar even when he was alone... So i don't think that's a real proof that the child is a girl.

[aly_angelflight]

I think a boy who was pretending to be a girl would wear jeans or shorts over a skirt, personally. (Well, a boy who isn't KID, anyhow.) A girl can still get away with wearing pants and a long shirt, after all. :V

[soul_dreamer]

The first thing that came to my mind about the child wearing the dress was because he except Conan to come over, but like aly_angelflight said he could wear just pants. However, the child may have some reason to pretend to be a girl that we don't know, e.g. to hide his identity further. I'm not saying the child is definitely the middle brother, I'm still consider Shuukichi to be the middle brother.

@Aslinn: I also mentioned somewhere it would be a miracle for the mother to survive, but maybe that's why she's sick.

Or in the end, it would turn out that neither Shuukichi nor the mystery child is the middle brother. I doubt that as I don't know who else could be the middle brother, but it would definitely be interesting, though it could also turn out as a bad plot twist.

[AICHAN]

I just hope Gosho won't disappoint us again...I mean I hope this girl should at least be a victim of APTX,so that the story can move on.if it's just some normal girl related to Sera I would be mad at Gosho.
I personally prefer the kid being the middle bro,who is apparently a detective.I just can't imagine the mother being shrunken by APTX like that,and I don't see the point of her being in that state.Also the kid seems weak,which could be the reason why Sera said Akai is the strong brother and middle bro is the smart one.
But I will be satisfied either way,as long as it spice up the story.

[Detective Doroshi]

I just hope Gosho won't disappoint us again...I mean I hope this girl should at least be a victim of APTX,so that the story can move on.if it's just some normal girl related to Sera I would be mad at Gosho.

About the mystery kid being a victim of the APTX is sure (at 100% I would even say). Her intelligence is way too high for he/she to be a normal kid. You won't be deceived by Gosho, I think. ^^