Discussion Thread: Detective Conan Files 894-898: Scarlet Series!

[AICHAN]

yeah I also wondered about the choice of the word"scarlet".Usually when Akai is involved,Gosho use the word "red" not scarlet...IIRC the recent file with Shinichi(it was a flashback case) was entitled "scarlet detective".So maybe it's another hint to prove that amuro isn't confronting Akai,but Shinichi or his dad.

[Puto]

yeah I also wondered about the choice of the word"scarlet".Usually when Akai is involved,Gosho use the word "red" not scarlet...IIRC the recent file with Shinichi(it was a flashback case) was entitled "scarlet detective".So maybe it's another hint to prove that amuro isn't confronting Akai,but Shinichi or his dad.

By the way, one possible way to say 'scarlet' in Japanese is 'shuu-iro'. Think about that.

[shihx]

In regards to the SH post, it's an unlikely theory, but I do have a slight expectation for 'Okiya' to be the middle brother, since Yusaku as the most popular theory doesn't match with 'Okiya's build and Shinichi would match yet would turn out rather, err, unsatisfactory. Also in Yusaku theory, I don't quite understand the motive of Bourbon's claiming the oogey-boogey men as his underlings if they really were not with him. Anyways, I don't make correct deductions in DC too often (even after all these years -___-) so I can't really fret about it.

Honestly one of the idea that crossed my mind when I heard the color scarlet was that it was a mixture of red and black

[MoonRaven]

Random thought popped into my head just now. What if the Okiya(if we assume that's not Akai/original/whatevs) is now, instead of Yusaku in disguise, the middle brother in disguise? I mean, the middle brother is stated to be smart and I don't think it wouldn't be too hard to drag him into this. He is adult after all and can make his own decisions. And I bet he would've also been more or less curious about the fate of Akai no matter what he has been told.

But that's a random thought and I still think Yusaku is more likely to be this Okiya. But comments please?

[MeiTanteixX]

I personally believe that the "SCARLET" part can have two meanings to it:

1. it's a reference to "A study in Scarlet"(first sherlock Holmes Novel), where Sherlock tells Watson that a murder takes the colour Scarlet, and needs to be distinguished and seperated from all the other misleading parts of the case to find the only truth! Here, all the mysteries involving Akai is being revealed, as the misleading parts about his "death" are being separated from the truth, and what's left is the only Scarlet truth, conan's plan!

2. That "Scarlet" is referring to Akai(for obvious reasons), and that if u add what was said in the 1st meaning, Akai is the Scarlet colour that is surrounded by mysteries and that are to be resolved in this "Scarlet" series!


I truly doubt the flashback chapter with shinichi, "the scarlet detective", has anything to do with this since the chapter had it's own meaning with the title. (That chapter was a complete reference of the novel "A Study In Scarlet")

And if we take what was just said as the truth, the titles of the Scarlet series chapters make sense with the content:

1. "Scarlet prologe" - the Beginning of the Akai Mystery(obviously)

2. "Scarlet suspicion" - Amuro suspicion over akai's new identity and whereabouts. (As well as conan suspicion over Amuro's awareness of the truth behind the Akai mysteries)

3. "Scarlet interrogation" - Amuro's Interrogation with the supposedly Akai Shuichi, Okiya Subaru(that could instead be yuusako in disguise)

4. "Scarlet Return" - where, in my guess(if we go with this flow), Akai, the scarlet enrolled with mysteries, Makes his Return!!! (Doesn't mean he reveals himself from the okiya disguise)

[NiderMine]

Spoiler:

I think there is something that doesn't look important in this discussion. Which the glue that akai used to not leave fingerprints on the conan's cell , how it is related to fake death plan .Although he can touch it with bare fingers

[AICHAN]

I'm just wondering if Sera and Ai will appear during these chapters...I mean they both are supposed to confront Akai,or at least know the truth about him.Which is why i kinda hope Amuro will back off after his confrontation with that fake Okiya,and then come back and take Sera or Ai as hostage.that way he would force Akai to face him for real.

[MeiTanteixX]

I think there is something that doesn't look important in this discussion. Which the glue that akai used to not leave fingerprints on the conan's cell , how it is related to fake death plan .Although he can touch it with bare fingers.

so that his fingerprints aren't found on the phone among with rikumichi's, Jodie's and conan's fingerprints. Sure, the police wouldn't now who's fingerprints akai's fingerprints are(since they don't have anything to compare it with), but probably for safety reasons, he made sure not to leave any!!

For example, if a BO member wanted to make sure he is dead, they could just find the phone, maybe get a hold of the burned body's(rikumichi's) fingerprints, test to see if they are there, and after they know which fingerprint is the burned body's on the phone, they can test it with Akai's fingerprint, that they might've gotten a hold of when he infiltrated the Organization, and then find out that the akai's fingerprint doesn't match with the burned body's, but with the one that akai actually left in the phone. (Sorry if its hard to follow up, and i still didn't come to a conclusion to why it's not good that his fingerprints are there ). I guess they will only know that he did touch the phone, but mainly....that he is still alive! (Which they could've found out if the BO just tested it in the first place. ...?) Wow, i just wasted a your time!!! O.o

[MeiTanteixX]

I'm just wondering if Sera and Ai will appear during these chapters...I mean they both are supposed to confront Akai,or at least know the truth about him.Which is why i kinda hope Amuro will back off after his confrontation with that fake Okiya,and then come back and take Sera or Ai as hostage.that way he would force Akai to face him for real.

Sera and Ai will find out about akai on their own moment and time. It doesn't have to be rushed just because amuro will find out about it! And I Highly doubt that holding Ai as hostage is a possibility at the moment since Amuro doesn't even know her(and her connection with akai). REMEMBER? He thinks Sherry is dead!!!

[User 4869]

Spoiler:

I think there is something that doesn't look important in this discussion. Which the glue that akai used to not leave fingerprints on the conan's cell , how it is related to fake death plan .Although he can touch it with bare fingers

Gosho explains that the first patientt who touch the phone is greasy. That will make the second patien (Kusuda) wipe the phone before touching it. Mean only Kusuda fingerprints will be on it. The third patient dont touch it at all. Akai use glue to not left, and not erases the existing fingerprints.

[MeiTanteixX]

Spoiler:

I think there is something that doesn't look important in this discussion. Which the glue that akai used to not leave fingerprints on the conan's cell , how it is related to fake death plan .Although he can touch it with bare fingers

Gosho explains that the first patientt who touch the phone is greasy. That will make the second patien (Kusuda) wipe the phone before touching it. Mean only Kusuda fingerprints will be on it. The third patient dont touch it at all. Akai use glue to not left, and not erases the existing fingerprints.

Ahhh!!! remember that part being mentioned now, thnx user4869, didn't bother to read it again ^^

[dessskris]

Hi guys, days ago the japanese magazine Da Vinci did an interview to Gosho Aoyama and he revealed important information. I have a website with this interview in spanish, but you can read this interview in japanese in the web Da Vinci. If you want to see this interview in spanish this is the website:
http://tanteikid.blogspot.com.es/2014/0 ... rsary.html
I don't have japanese interview's web, sorry.

Spoiler:

Near the end Aoyama says:
The manga is starting to reveal more than the identity of "that person". First, it will be confirmed Tooru Amuro's real name. For some reason in his memories appears Haibara's mother, Elena . In addition to 2 moms are actually sisters ... Many things are connected. Too bad, I think I spoke too. Well, wait anxiously manga.

OMG Two moms are sisters, anyone know anything about this?

does anyone have the complete version of this interview??

Spoiler:

OMG Gosho said the BO boss is not Yusaku!!!

[ALAKTORN]

Gosho explains that the first patientt who touch the phone is greasy. That will make the second patien (Kusuda) wipe the phone before touching it. Mean only Kusuda fingerprints will be on it. The third patient dont touch it at all. Akai use glue to not left, and not erases the existing fingerprints.

I don’t think it’s really relevant but I just want to mention that the Japanese says the first patient cleans the cellphone on his own, “because people with greasy hands are embarrassed by it” so they clean things they touch, it wasn’t the second guy

…and now I just realized that I don’t know why I know this. I can’t find the Jap raw on the site I normally read them, but I remember reading this.

[User 4869]

Go back to read 895 of DCTP. It never mention WHO wipe the greasy-thing off. It only say it will be awkward to have other two pick it up. It could be the first patient. It could be Conan, but probably not Kusuda himself as I "guesses" in the previous post because it mention wiping it out "for the benefit of" other two people.

@dessskris
Full interview or not. You should find this interesting.
http://www.detectiveconanworld.com/foru ... nterviews/

[ALAKTORN]

Yeah I read it, and going by that it can’t be the first patient either, because he didn’t know that two other people were gonna touch it. I remember reading it differently in Japanese, though… maybe I’m dreaming…