Discussion Thread: Detective Conan Files 894-898: Scarlet Series!

[ThatLee4]

Yeah Akia mun and Akemi's mum are probably not sisters then like you said AICHAN. But Kaito Kid and Shinichi's mum's would be boring. Especially as Gosho said they tge two storys wont be intetwoven. But still probably that.

Iwould like if Amouro and Ai's mum where sisters. And Amouro was a child in the BO like Ai/Sherri for a reason (secirity) but his parents died trying to expose the org. Hence ellens telation ship with Zero Chan.

Im probably wrong but anyways.

[AICHAN]

Yeah Akia mun and Akemi's mum are probably not sisters then like you said AICHAN. But Kaito Kid and Shinichi's mum's would be boring. Especially as Gosho said they tge two storys wont be intetwoven. But still probably that.

Iwould like if Amouro and Ai's mum where sisters. And Amouro was a child in the BO like Ai/Sherri for a reason (secirity) but his parents died trying to expose the org. Hence ellens telation ship with Zero Chan.

Im probably wrong but anyways.

Yeah I thought about that idea too,that Amuro's mum and Elena would be sisters,that would explain why Amuro seems to be close to Elena.But I know it's wrong,because Ai and Akemi would be aware that Amuro is their cousin.

[themasq]

The shipping of Haibara and Subaru has always been very awkward.

I agree that having Chikage and Yukiko would be a little bit boring...I'm not sure if it would interfere too much with the plot. Amuro's mother and Elena's mother being related some way would be much more interesting.

[AICHAN]

The shipping of Haibara and Subaru has always been very awkward.

I agree that having Chikage and Yukiko would be a little bit boring...I'm not sure if it would interfere too much with the plot. Amuro's mother and Elena's mother being related some way would be much more interesting.

I like Haibara/Subaru interactions so for me it's not that awkward.
But I agree with you that Chikage and Yukiko being sisters is boring and wouldn't add anything to the plot.

[MeiTanteixX]

It feels like the discussion and comments are just repeating itself all over again. -_- other than the discussion of the Scarlet Series, this isn't getting us anywhere!!

[conan998]

if mask okiya is yukako or yukiko it could be dangerous for conan..........even if bourbon is tricked he may find out that he was tricked ....and would suspect kudo family
well this sounds far fetched

[MeiTanteixX]

if mask okiya is yukako or yukiko it could be dangerous for conan..........even if bourbon is tricked he may find out that he was tricked ....and would suspect kudo family
well this sounds far fetched

no ur not losing it just yet, I've been thinking about it as well, even if yuusako manage to go with the excuse of dressing up as okiya to hide his face from the reporters, that doesn't change the fact that he is more or less connected to Akai, which, as u mentioned, will lead to amuro suspecting and investigating the Kudos, which will lead to the son, SHINICHI(^^), and from there it will be Irish's investigation all over again!! That could lead to Conan being in grave danger!

Not sure what kind of excuse Yukiko would go with though, if she was behind the mask (which i doubt) .. :/

[RoboG55]

if mask okiya is yukako or yukiko it could be dangerous for conan..........even if bourbon is tricked he may find out that he was tricked ....and would suspect kudo family
well this sounds far fetched

no ur not losing it just yet, I've been thinking about it as well, even if yuusako manage to go with the excuse of dressing up as okiya to hide his face from the reporters, that doesn't change the fact that he is more or less connected to Akai, which, as u mentioned, will lead to amuro suspecting and investigating the Kudos, which will lead to the son, SHINICHI(^^), and from there it will be Irish's investigation all over again!! That could lead to Conan being in grave danger!

Not sure what kind of excuse Yukiko would go with though, if she was behind the mask (which i doubt) .. :/

Well, Okiya got permission to stay, so couldn't Yuusaku just say that Okiya has been taking care of the house for them while they are away, so they let him live there. The reporters don't really know him, so Yuusaku simply disguised as him so there won't be reporters following him wherever he goes. Yuusaku can make this excuse, because then it won't necessarily mean he's working with Akai. Because if Yuusaku just disguised so the reporters won't be bugging him, he could just use Okiya for that because the reporters don't know who he is. It doesn't mean he knows Subaru is Akai. It just means Subaru is living there and the reporters don't know who he is for now.

[MeiTanteixX]

if mask okiya is yukako or yukiko it could be dangerous for conan..........even if bourbon is tricked he may find out that he was tricked ....and would suspect kudo family
well this sounds far fetched

no ur not losing it just yet, I've been thinking about it as well, even if yuusako manage to go with the excuse of dressing up as okiya to hide his face from the reporters, that doesn't change the fact that he is more or less connected to Akai, which, as u mentioned, will lead to amuro suspecting and investigating the Kudos, which will lead to the son, SHINICHI(^^), and from there it will be Irish's investigation all over again!! That could lead to Conan being in grave danger!

Not sure what kind of excuse Yukiko would go with though, if she was behind the mask (which i doubt) .. :/

Well, Okiya got permission to stay, so couldn't Yuusaku just say that Okiya has been taking care of the house for them while they are away, so they let him live there. The reporters don't really know him, so Yuusaku simply disguised as him so there won't be reporters following him wherever he goes. Yuusaku can make this excuse, because then it won't necessarily mean he's working with Akai. Because if Yuusaku just disguised so the reporters won't be bugging him, he could just use Okiya for that because the reporters don't know who he is. It doesn't mean he knows Subaru is Akai. It just means Subaru is living there and the reporters don't know who he is for now.

i know that already, but i if u think about it, what would come to mind to amuro when he finds out that yuusaku was the one who gave the house to okiya, and not conan? He would probably wonder HOW a made up character(okiya) can get in touch with a famous novelist to live in his house in such a short period of time, and that is conviniently close to the professor's house(which he mentioned was also involved with fake death plan)? Now, amuro got his own ideas. He assumed that conan was somehow involved in getting okiya the house(probably since the plan was his idea from the beginning), but then how would yuusaku's "too-convenient-request(to let okiya take care of the house)" add up in this? Well, to find that out he will have to investigate Yuusaku's and conan's connection!!! See my point? Which leads back to what I said in the beginning...

[ThatLee4]

I dont think Amuro will kill Akia. Well at least not until he sorts out why he hates him so much for. And gets an explianation or something

I wonder what the reason is? I find we do not know much about Akia himself. And what his real aim is. Yeah he works for the FBI. But what has he found out about the BO Having been undercover? And what is his response to his findings? Much the same with Amuro and what his plan is and what his response is to the organisation's mission is?

I hope we find out something. ?ven just s little bit.

[PhantomWriter]

I dont think Amuro will kill Akia. Well at least not until he sorts out why he hates him so much for. And gets an explianation or something

I wonder what the reason is? I find we do not know much about Akia himself. And what his real aim is. Yeah he works for the FBI. But what has he found out about the BO Having been undercover? And what is his response to his findings? Much the same with Amuro and what his plan is and what his response is to the organisation's mission is?

I hope we find out something. ?ven just s little bit.

That's a good point. Though I'd argue that Amuro has similarities to both Akai and Conan in terms of reactions.

It bothers me with the use of language as well. Akai and Amuro are "rivals." But they weren't rivals for Akemi's hand, as confirmed by how their rivalry has nothing to do with her by Gosho himself. Rivalry has a specific connotation that is distinctly neutral. Rival implies that they're working for the same goal.

I'm also bothered by Amuro being previously in the police academy. Why would the Organization have an agent learn from there without some sort of failsafe, especially since Amuro was only recently activated? It seems foolish, too much of a chance he'd befriend those he was around and start picking up their morality. Unless he were going to specifically infiltrate the police, why would they have him learn from there instead of learn from other Org. members?

[The_evilbit]

In terms of mentioning Akai in the Kudo house, that is as far as Amuro has probably investigated that aspect. I believe if Amuro starts really investigating the Kudo family connection it will not take very long at all to put it all together, especially since Shinichi's name is plastered all over their databases confirmed as dead. If anything it would give Amuro possible motive for Yuusaku helping Akai.

[PhantomWriter]

In terms of mentioning Akai in the Kudo house, that is as far as Amuro has probably investigated that aspect. I believe if Amuro starts really investigating the Kudo family connection it will not take very long at all to put it all together, especially since Shinichi's name is plastered all over their databases confirmed as dead. If anything it would give Amuro possible motive for Yuusaku helping Akai.

Not at this immediate arc. The motive would be discovered some time later and he would go after Akai again, along with going after the Kudous.

[Yottas]

Some guessing:

More likely assumptions:

• These individuals we see outside of the Kudo'S Villa are reporters, because of their unprofessional behavior, Amuro's reaction and Amuro saying "[...]they like waiting outside".
• Okiya is Yusaku, because of the foreshadowing, him wanting to watch the Macademy Awards, him saying "A staple ingredient of mysteries" and "I see... what a fascinating mystery", him deducing the case with the mobile phone and his reation to the mentioning of Conan.
• Someone, probably Conan, is waiting inside Kudo's villa to be able to react.

An unlikely assumption:

• Amuro is the disguised Vermouth, because he goes inside the villa although there are reporter standing outside (that should tell him that there is a trap waiting for him)

What'll be happening (atleast what I'm guessing):
Yusaku will unmask himself so that the reporters will come into the villa to take photos of Yusaku and so take photos of Amuro too (that's part of Conan's plan because Amuro will be seen all over the world so that he can't operate for the BO anymore (and probably Gin want's to kill him for his mistake)), but Amuro was aware of this and sent Vermouth, disguised as himself (he probably made an offer that Vermouth couldn't deny, like not telling anyone that Conan=Shinichi), over to Kudo's house, so that she could unmask herself because it wouldn't bother her if she would be seen as Chris Vineyard. Amuro did this to be able to turn up if Shuuichi appears somewhere, and to make Shuuichi come out, he used a bait in the form of Jodie and Camel in danger.

Notes:

• The bait could also be another event
• Ran? (will she appear?)
• page 14, panel 04: Amuro's short pause before saying "Kudo Yusaku"

Yottas

[pikacutie25]

In terms of mentioning Akai in the Kudo house, that is as far as Amuro has probably investigated that aspect. I believe if Amuro starts really investigating the Kudo family connection it will not take very long at all to put it all together, especially since Shinichi's name is plastered all over their databases confirmed as dead. If anything it would give Amuro possible motive for Yuusaku helping Akai.

Not at this immediate arc. The motive would be discovered some time later and he would go after Akai again, along with going after the Kudous.

THIS IS ALL LEADING TO THE FINAL ARC GUYS OMG
I'm not so sure about Amuro going after the Kudous, though...I mean, yeah, he hates Akai's guts and wants to kill him for some unknown reason, but I think we've all established that he's really not that bad of a guy, right? If he does somehow learn the whole story, I'd think he'd be sympathetic more than anything else. Of course, learning the whole story raises the question of what he'd do if he learned the truth about Haibara, too...