Discussion Thread: Detective Conan Files 891-893

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Discussion Thread: Detective Conan Files 891-893

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Warning: These translations were made out of context and might therefore be inaccurate.
Title: The last piece

Camel: A friend of yours?
Jodie: Yes. I helped her out when she got involved in a case while studying abroad in America and we got to know each other.
Jodie: She was also the one who helped me out with something something
Jodie: I guess you could call us teacher friends [probably, not quite readable …]

p. 16
Amuro: She hired me because she was being stalked …
Conan (thoughts): Bourbon …
Amuro: Please excuse my tardiness. I’m Amuro, a detective!
Megure: Was he called here?
Takagi: (Something about her cell phone …)
Amuro: Those two …
Amuro: Are they English teachers?
Takagi: Ah, no, these two are FBI agents …
Takagi: Who happen to be helping with the investigation …
Amuro: Oh?
Amuro: FBI, you say?

Side note: Bourbon arrives! Black intentions abound?!
Who can predict what will happen in the must-see next issue?!!
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English translation of everything plot-related in file 891:
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File 891: The last piece

p.2

[Side note:] Who’s this woman that talks so familiarly with Jodie … ?

Shibuya Natsuko: Oh, Jodie!

Natsuko: What’s up?

Natsuko: Ah, was that today? That we wanted to go out for drinks together …

Jodie: How is it? Have you become used to being an elementary school teacher yet?

Natsuko: I sure have. I’m the popular beauty who returned from abroad!

Natsuko: Is what I’d like to say …

Natsuko: But I’ve got a lot going on right now and it’s a bit stressful …

Natsuko: I have a parent-teacher meeting after this as well ...

Jodie: I see ... I guess drinks for tonight are off then ...

Natsuko: More importantly, why are you even still in Japan? I thought your undercover investigation was already over ...

Jodie: What a thing to say after inviting me. My situation also isn’t as clear-cut as it might seem, you know ...

p.3

Jodie: Alright, talk to you later!

Camel: A friend of yours?

Jodie: Yes. I helped her out when she got involved in a case while studying abroad in America and we got to know each other.

Camel: I see.

Jodie: She was also the one who taught me Japanese and helped me out a lot when I was working undercover as an English teacher …

Jodie: I guess you could call her my teaching buddy …

Amuro: Shibuya Natsuko, 28 …

Amuro: Elementary school teacher …

Vermouth: Who’s that?

Amuro: She’s my client ...

Amuro: And also ...

p.4

Amuro: The person who will likely help me ...

Amuro: Put the last piece into place ...

Vermouth: So what is it? This last piece of yours ...

Amuro: !?

Vermouth: Someone just fell down the stairs ...

[SFX bubbles:] *haa* *haa*

Amuro: Looks like the the puzzle is about to be completed ...

[SFX bubble:] *clack*

p.5

Genta: Oi Conan!

Genta: Let’s play soccer on the way home!

Genta: Where did he go?

Ayumi: He’s over there!

Mitsuhiko: He’s being picked up by car, it seems ...

Ayumi: It’s probably the uncle from the detective agency!

Haibara: No, it’s not ...

Haibara: That’s a Benz ... that detective wouldn’t rent such an expensive car ...

Haibara (thoughts): That’s right ... that’s the FBI car I saw before ...

Haibara (thoughts): But the fact that he didn’t caution me to be careful at all ...

Haibara (thoughts): Means that something has happened ...

Haibara (thoughts): Something outside of my territory ...

p.6

Jodie: Kusuda Rikumichi?

Jodie: Ah, the BO spy who infiltrated the hospital where Mizunashi Reina was hospitalized ...

Jodie: He committed suicide by shooting himself in the head, if I remember correctly ...

Conan: Yes!

Conan: Please tell your collegues from the FBI not to let that fact leak to the outside!

Conan: The organization member named Bourbon, ...

Conan: Amuro Tooru, is investigating the matter!

Jodie: No problem!

Jodie: Did you just call me out here to tell me that?

Conan: Yes ... it’s really easy to bug cell phones after all ...

Conan: And there’s one more thing ...

Conan: I wanted to tell you ...

Conan: It could be that that man called Amuro ...

[SFX bubble] *ring*

Jodie: Ah, excuse me ...

Jodie: I’ll just park at the shoulder and take that call ...

[SFX bubbles:] *ring* *ring*

p.7-15

Jodie is informed that Natsuko is in the hospital and in critical condition. She is asked to come to the crime scene because a record of her phone call with Natsuko was found in the latter’s call history, yada, yada.
Camel is there because Jodie made the call from Camel’s phone, so the police contacted him first.
An anonymous person informed the police about Natsuko’s accident about 1 hour after Jodie talked with her last night, but they had some trouble finding her belongings & identity.
Lots of case stuff ...
After finding out that Natsuko was supposed to have a parent-teacher meeting last night after the phone call they contact various other people in her call history, including the two suspects and Amuro ...
Which brings us to ...

p.15 (last 3 panels)

Man: And on top of that, she went and hired a strange detective ...

Megure & Takagi: A detective?

Man: I was going to give that woman a piece of my mind and followed her home ...

Man: When that guy suddenly grabbed me by my collar!!

Voice: It couldn’t be helped ...

p.16

Amuro: Seeing how she hired me because she was being stalked …

Conan (thoughts): Bourbon …

Conan (thoughts): !?

Amuro: Please excuse my tardiness. I’m Amuro, a detective!

Megure: Did you call him here?

Takagi: His number was also in the victim’s call history …

Amuro: Those two …

Amuro: Are they English teachers?

Takagi: Ah, no, these two are FBI agents …

Takagi: Who happen to be helping with the investigation …

Amuro: Oh?

Amuro: FBI, you say?

Side note: Bourbon arrives! Black intentions abound?!
Who can predict what will happen in the must-see next issue?!!
Updated glossary of the word territory, for those interested:
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Since the term "territory" and its synonyms have now been around for over 500(!) chapters and translations haven't always been consistent due to the fact that it's been a long time and various translators have worked on the files, I put together an overview over the various occurrences of words meaning territory/domain/area for reference purposes:

File 354, p.5 (Akai, talking to Ran): 場 with special reading(!) エリア - "area"
File 587, p.4 (Jodie, talking to Conan): エリア - "area"
File 700, p.13 (message + flashback Akai): エリア - "area"
File 811, p.16 (Okiya): my エリア - "area"
File 811, p.16 (Okiya): your 領分 - "territory"
File 821, p.9 (Okiya): エリア - "area"
File 845, p.3 (Masumi): 領域 - "domain"
File 878, p.16 (mystery girl): 領域 - "domain"
File 891, p.5 (Haibara): my 領分 - "territory"

All three words have the meaning "territory."
If I missed any occurences (which is likely ^^) please let me know and I'll add them.
Edit: Added another 'territory' occurrence to the glossary.
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I bet Vermouth won't appear just one page then no more action in this series, she should have been disguised as some teacher to observe how FBI reacting to Bourbon himself
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First: Thank you so much for the translation!
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Second: At the final of the page 6 of the translation, you have seen that Conan knows something about Amuro probably related to "Zero", when Conan says "-It could be that that man called Amuro...". Someone knows something or Conan is smarter than us again? :-\
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Thanks Fuji for your hard work^^
Conan 48:69 wrote:
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I bet Vermouth won't appear just one page then no more action in this series, she should have been disguised as some teacher to observe how FBI reacting to Bourbon himself
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Yeah I didn't think about that but this is a possibility,but somehow I prefer Amuro acting alone for once,not counting on Vermouth.
I wonder what Conan was going to say to Jodie...maybe about the Zero thing,but I don't see why it would be important to tell that to her.Or maybe he was going to say smething about Akai faked death.
Anyway I'm waiting for the next file to see what Amuro will do against 2 FBI agents...
And seriously no Okiya since last year,I really hope he'll be there soon!
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AICHAN wrote:Thanks Fuji for your hard work^^
Conan 48:69 wrote:
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I bet Vermouth won't appear just one page then no more action in this series, she should have been disguised as some teacher to observe how FBI reacting to Bourbon himself
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Yeah I didn't think about that but this is a possibility,but somehow I prefer Amuro acting alone for once,not counting on Vermouth.
I wonder what Conan was going to say to Jodie...maybe about the Zero thing,but I don't see why it would be important to tell that to her.Or maybe he was going to say smething about Akai faked death.
Anyway I'm waiting for the next file to see what Amuro will do against 2 FBI agents...
And seriously no Okiya since last year,I really hope he'll be there soon!
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But because Vermouth was there last time they managed to bug Jodie and get it before anyone noticed... If Amuro had been there alone he might have failed when trying to retrieve it or might have just left it there for the FBI to track
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So, Conan's acting just as I predicted, and Amuro's going to be killed (probably not), imprisoned (likely, at least for a while), or turned double-agent, like Vermouth (much more likely, since he has a backstory). Amuro is smart and wily, but this plan of his is dumb... maybe I'll be surprised later?

Could it be that this is Vermouth's plan to turn Bourbon traitor? I get the feeling that she wants to destroy the organization, not by violence, but by showing everyone the error in their ways. She likes Ran and Shinichi not for their cleverness, but their idealism, which I think she hopes will rub off on the members that get close to Conan. She may have baited Amuro into this investigation, and be manipulating him into building a report with Conan so his idealism can infect Amuro. I'm thinking this because of her thoughts at the end of the Vermouth arc, about Shinichi "reaching her heart."

Or, maybe I'm reading too much into this.
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Conan 48:69 wrote:
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I bet Vermouth won't appear just one page then no more action in this series, she should have been disguised as some teacher to observe how FBI reacting to Bourbon himself
she probably did that already :)
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on another note, amuro looks like he wants to tell Conan "fancy meting you here working with the FBI".
as for what Conan wanted to say about amuro while in the car with Jodie could be related to the Zero/Rei/Ray thing about his real name. So if Conan mentioned that, I'm sure the FBI could find something more about Bourbon.
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mihai wrote:
Conan 48:69 wrote:
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I bet Vermouth won't appear just one page then no more action in this series, she should have been disguised as some teacher to observe how FBI reacting to Bourbon himself
she probably did that already :)
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on another note, amuro looks like he wants to tell Conan "fancy meting you here working with the FBI".
as for what Conan wanted to say about amuro while in the car with Jodie could be related to the Zero/Rei/Ray thing about his real name. So if Conan mentioned that, I'm sure the FBI could find something more about Bourbon.
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I guess you're right,Conan was probably about to say that Amuro Rei is actually Bourbon's name...So maybe they'll found that Amuro was in the police academy with Date,or find the reason why he hates Akai so much.
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mihai wrote:
Conan 48:69 wrote:
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I bet Vermouth won't appear just one page then no more action in this series, she should have been disguised as some teacher to observe how FBI reacting to Bourbon himself
she probably did that already :)
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on another note, amuro looks like he wants to tell Conan "fancy meting you here working with the FBI".
as for what Conan wanted to say about amuro while in the car with Jodie could be related to the Zero/Rei/Ray thing about his real name. So if Conan mentioned that, I'm sure the FBI could find something more about Bourbon.
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Without Akai, FBI had trouble for investigation. In File 850, Conan requested Jodie to help him investigating about Bourbon's motive of staying in Poirot (Can't Conan at least notice Bourbon trying to investigate if Kogorou is related to FBI, since BO trying to assault Kogorou once, that's why he pretending to be Kogorou's apprentice), but Jodie didn't reveal anything to Conan till now.
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LOL yeah it's true the FBI is lost without Akai XDXD let's hope that will change in the next cases...
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Something I noticed, throughout 892, Amuro's been drawn with the sort of pupils reserved for "foreign" characters only (which is different from the 'shocked' pupils that all the characters can have regardless of nationality). Pupils that Vermouth, Jodie, Sera's mystery kid relative, Akai, and so on are drawn with. This is unusual for him, he's usually drawn with the more stylized pupils the Japanese characters are given.
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PhantomWriter wrote:Something I noticed, throughout 892, Amuro's been drawn with the sort of pupils reserved for "foreign" characters only (which is different from the 'shocked' pupils that all the characters can have regardless of nationality). Pupils that Vermouth, Jodie, Sera's mystery kid relative, Akai, and so on are drawn with. This is unusual for him, he's usually drawn with the more stylized pupils the Japanese characters are given.
Does Amuro look like full japanese to you? He's probably the same as Shuiichi, whos his sister has the "japanese" eyes.
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