Yusaku Kudo Is The Head Of Black Organization (I guess)

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Hydok wrote: ya never know, it could be Eri...
Or Heji's mom...
Oh! Wait! It's Kazuha's mom! That's why we never see her and have only heard about her once!
I was always under the impression Kazuha's mom had passed away. In the few scenes Heiji is shown at his house, Kazuha is shown in most of them walking around the house like she lives there (I know she doesn't). Two examples out of many are the K3 case where she is seen serving the food while Heiji is on the phone or Movie 7, where she's in the house and Heiji has no idea. My impression of these scenes where that Kazuha's mother passed away so she was treated like a daughter by Heiji's mom and is being given Bridal training? which explains her being there a lot and how close Heiji's mom and Kazuha are.
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TheBlind wrote:
Hydok wrote: ya never know, it could be Eri...
Or Heji's mom...
Oh! Wait! It's Kazuha's mom! That's why we never see her and have only heard about her once!
I was always under the impression Kazuha's mom had passed away until they mentioned her. In the few scenes Heiji is shown at his house, Kazuha is shown in most of them walking around the house like she lives there (I know she doesn't). Two examples out of many are the K3 case where she is seen serving the food while Heiji is on the phone or Movie 7, where she's in the house and Heiji has no idea. My impression of these scenes where that Kazuha's mother passed away so she was treated like a daughter by Heiji's mom and is being giving Bridal training? which explains her being there a lot and how close Heiji's mom and Kazuha are.
yeah... once again, you never see her because she's the boss!!!
Although I do like the idea of Yoko as the boss...
*enjoys crack-theroies*
So Haibara's "radar" goes off at odd times, right? And she thinks that it is linked to the Black Org, right?
But all of the times it's gone off, there have been FBI (or suspected FBI) members there...
So, it's an FBI radar.
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dont rule out the possiblity of Kazu's mum faking to be dead  ;)
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conan: *a flash in his mind* of course, so that's what it is, so he's the head of BO... *dun dun dun*

-next chapter-

conan: the head of BO is *points* ME

lol  8)
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This theory may get torn to ribbons, but here it goes. Could the BIG BAD BOSS OF BO be one of the detective boys? If so I bet you know which one I think it might be.

One reason for this theory is this: Both Conan and AI were shrunk by the Drug, The theory the BO is looking for fountain of young. Is it possible that the BOSS took the drug and is now a kid?

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sstimson wrote: This theory may get torn to ribbons, but here it goes. Could the BIG BAD BOSS OF BO be one of the detective boys? If so I bet you know which one I think it might be.

One reason for this theory is this: Both Conan and AI were shrunk by the Drug, The theory the BO is looking for fountain of young. Is it possible that the BOSS took the drug and is now a kid?

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This could of been possible early in the series but now that Detective Boys have been fleshed out more it's really really unlikely. You have seen the family of each Detective Boy and each has acted or has been in situations that show they aren't evil, let alone a boss of an organization.
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sstimson wrote: This theory may get torn to ribbons, but here it goes. Could the BIG BAD BOSS OF BO be one of the detective boys? If so I bet you know which one I think it might be.

One reason for this theory is this: Both Conan and AI were shrunk by the Drug, The theory the BO is looking for fountain of young. Is it possible that the BOSS took the drug and is now a kid?

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I just choked on the water I was drinking.  :P
Though that would be quite an interesting twist. xD
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;DTo tell the truth, the boss of BO is shinichi kudo himeself :P!
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This is somewhat stupid. Suppose Yuusaku were the head of the BO. His first priority would be to eliminate all evidence regarding the existence of the organization and to kill all who do know about the BO that are not part of it. Thus, Shinichi living still is proof that his father is not part of the BO. Besides, for Yuusaku to also be a famous detective as well as a novel writer, it is almost impossible to impose a further identity.

That was my original thinking...I could be very wrong.
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I am suspecting Heiji's father. Because I want to see more serious!Heiji. Also, I've never liked that guy ;). I am gonna pretend he's the boss and write fanfiction about it until the series proves me wrong. Which may be a longer while, actually.
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I think Dr. Agasa is the head boss of BO . I will tell my reasons why ?.

In episode 129 , when  ai met agasa for the first and told him about BO , how did he decide to believe her and make her to stay undercover at   his home . If I were Dr.Agasa and i know Conan = Kudo and if I , how could believe her  story  version .  She could be faking escape and actually still involved in BO in order to take down conan , and captured . I am risking my life and conan life to reveal kudo identity  unless I got some from a trust source (BO) that AI run away from the organization and she is telling truth .Also,  Every time episode conan was involved with BO member  , Dr.Agasa was found to be with him in every moment. Doesn't looks weird. Beside that in the movie Count Down To Heaven, When Dr.Agasa was put through face scanning machine that determine his face after 10 years , His face face did not changed even little bit or his hair fall. This probably means that he taking anti-age medicine . One final thing ,in eps 129 when conan go to Dr.Agasa's house to  check Dr. Agasa if he has been killed by ai, the movie show some scene of melody on agasa' TV being played by pianist group .Iknow this sound random and weird,but could it be actually  some hint of SEVEN CHILDREN MELODY.
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BO=FBI xD , i should post this in the wildest theories ...
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I think the head of BO is Haibara's Parents...

But I think that we have seen them in their child form.

That's right...

Ayumi and Mitsuhiko are Haibara's parents!
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Carmady wrote: I think the head of BO is Haibara's Parents...

But I think that we have seen them in their child form.

That's right...

Ayumi and Mitsuhiko are Haibara's parents!
... I think you just broke my brain...
Too bad that Haibara's mother is British...

The two main things that I've seen in this topic that people are using to claim that Kudo Yuusaku is not the BO boss are
1. He let Shinichi live after discovering the existence of the BO.
2. He let Gin poison Shinichi.

In response to the first:
Why should he kill him? Shinichi might not figure it out, so just deal with him then.

In response to the second:
... This one shouldn't even get a response. Gin didn't call up the boss and ask for permission to use the ahoutoxin, he acted on his own...
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So Haibara's "radar" goes off at odd times, right? And she thinks that it is linked to the Black Org, right?
But all of the times it's gone off, there have been FBI (or suspected FBI) members there...
So, it's an FBI radar.
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My thoughts are as follows. One Gin was secretly instructed to make sure the Kudo saw the deal in odrer to give him the poison. Gin is required to make sure Kudo is ok while making it look like he wants Kudo dead. It is also possible that Haibara is in on it as well. She did say that Kudu was part of an Bo experimentt and I am sure they want to subject to be around to the end. Haibara taking the drug to be with Kudo I think was necessary for the experiment. I do believe they are trying to extend life forever.
More thought later.

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