A Possible Questionable New theory Hairbaba still Bo?

[Nyarl]

Ok But the Drug thing by it self is a Mind Screw. Also as You and I mentioned before Blanks CAN kill. A lot the the murder ways alao would not work in real life. So if it is not a Mind Screw Manga, then why does it keeping breaking the rules?

Blanks have been used in theatrical stunts, military and police training exercises, battle reenactments, etc. for years, despite the danger of careless use. When weighing the risk of using blanks for a trick, consider that a trade-off against the certainty Hidemi would be killed if they just left her to the mercy of Gin. They'd certainly prefer the risk of using blanks. (If Hidemi had the gun pressed to his head when she fired, though, Shuu would be lucky to avoid serious injury. But, maybe Aoyama didn't research blank safety all that much... and I'm sure Shuu would accept a burn, even a scarring burn, as a good trade-off.)

[sstimson]

Ok But the Drug thing by it self is a Mind Screw. Also as You and I mentioned before Blanks CAN kill. A lot the the murder ways alao would not work in real life. So if it is not a Mind Screw Manga, then why does it keeping breaking the rules?

Blanks have been used in theatrical stunts, military and police training exercises, battle reenactments, etc. for years, despite the danger of careless use. When weighing the risk of using blanks for a trick, consider that a trade-off against the certainty Hidemi would be killed if they just left her to the mercy of Gin. They'd certainly prefer the risk of using blanks. (If Hidemi had the gun pressed to his head when she fired, though, Shuu would be lucky to avoid serious injury. But, maybe Aoyama didn't research blank safety all that much... and I'm sure Shuu would accept a burn, even a scarring burn, as a good trade-off.)

see this http://forums.dctp.ws/viewtopic.php?p=66980#p66980

and Did not do the research is very unlikely. I read ( maybe a rumor ) that the reason sometimes the Manga takes so long is Gosho Aoyama is doing research. If I can find that I will post it.

The point is this: as Blanks can kill ( see above thead ) then Akai is dead in real life. Even trying to protect his head would not have stopped his death

Also another point: No drug will ever cause you to deage and strink to that age. It is possible there could be a drug to stop aging in the future.

Spoiler:

Case three the ice suicide. even if you could get everything setup and the ice did not melt. Could you really kill your self by falling on to a knife?

[Chekhov MacGuffin]

Ok But the Drug thing by it self is a Mind Screw. Also as You and I mentioned before Blanks CAN kill. A lot the the murder ways alao would not work in real life. So if it is not a Mind Screw Manga, then why does it keeping breaking the rules?

We already discussed the blanks and Akai's death already in this topic. Yes Gosho generally does do the research, but like most detective fiction, some stuff is allowed to slide for dramatic license. Sherlock Holmes had (Speckled Band spoiler!): snakes listening to whistles and drinking milk. If you want to label Sherlock a mind screw because some stuff doesn't mesh with reality then, well, even I can't help you there.

[Nyarl]

Ok But the Drug thing by it self is a Mind Screw. Also as You and I mentioned before Blanks CAN kill. A lot the the murder ways alao would not work in real life. So if it is not a Mind Screw Manga, then why does it keeping breaking the rules?

Blanks have been used in theatrical stunts, military and police training exercises, battle reenactments, etc. for years, despite the danger of careless use. When weighing the risk of using blanks for a trick, consider that a trade-off against the certainty Hidemi would be killed if they just left her to the mercy of Gin. They'd certainly prefer the risk of using blanks. (If Hidemi had the gun pressed to his head when she fired, though, Shuu would be lucky to avoid serious injury. But, maybe Aoyama didn't research blank safety all that much... and I'm sure Shuu would accept a burn, even a scarring burn, as a good trade-off.)

see this http://forums.dctp.ws/viewtopic.php?p=66980#p66980

and Did not do the research is very unlikely. I read ( maybe a rumor ) that the reason sometimes the Manga takes so long is Gosho Aoyama is doing research. If I can find that I will post it.

The point is this: as Blanks can kill ( see above thead ) then Akai is dead in real life. Even trying to protect his head would not have stopped his death

You are extrapolating "can kill" into 100% certainly, which is silly, especially since we can't tell for certain in the manga whether she had the gun pressed directly to his head when she fired the gun. Since they most likely had it planned out, they'd use crimped blanks so wads wouldn't be a factor. He was probably burned, though.

[soratothamax]

Another question: How did Akai get into the Organization so fast? I know he got to know Akemi, but so what? He became Akemi's boyfriend, and so could now be a part of the BO? How does one become a part of the BO? Do they have to talk to the Boss? Or do they go straight up to Gin and ask? Do they go to a facility and sign a few papers? Or does a member just bring them in and ask for them to join? 

I had a theory about that ( Yes it is that word again ) They might go to the BO and offer to be MOLES.

How do they offer to be moles? Do they walk to Gin and ask to be one? Go to a facility and sign up? Talk to someone they know that could get them in? Talk to the boss? If all of these are the cases, Haibara and Rye might have either seen the boss, been in the sign-up facilities, or possibly walked up to Gin and asked to be in it. I wonder where they signed up or made the "agreements..."

[Kor]

Another question: How did Akai get into the Organization so fast? I know he got to know Akemi, but so what? He became Akemi's boyfriend, and so could now be a part of the BO? How does one become a part of the BO? Do they have to talk to the Boss? Or do they go straight up to Gin and ask? Do they go to a facility and sign a few papers? Or does a member just bring them in and ask for them to join? 

I had a theory about that ( Yes it is that word again ) They might go to the BO and offer to be MOLES.

How do they offer to be moles? Do they walk to Gin and ask to be one? Go to a facility and sign up? Talk to someone they know that could get them in? Talk to the boss? If all of these are the cases, Haibara and Rye might have either seen the boss, been in the sign-up facilities, or possibly walked up to Gin and asked to be in it. I wonder where they signed up or made the "agreements..."

I could tell you, but then I'd have to kill you. 

[soratothamax]

Another question: How did Akai get into the Organization so fast? I know he got to know Akemi, but so what? He became Akemi's boyfriend, and so could now be a part of the BO? How does one become a part of the BO? Do they have to talk to the Boss? Or do they go straight up to Gin and ask? Do they go to a facility and sign a few papers? Or does a member just bring them in and ask for them to join? 

I had a theory about that ( Yes it is that word again ) They might go to the BO and offer to be MOLES.

How do they offer to be moles? Do they walk to Gin and ask to be one? Go to a facility and sign up? Talk to someone they know that could get them in? Talk to the boss? If all of these are the cases, Haibara and Rye might have either seen the boss, been in the sign-up facilities, or possibly walked up to Gin and asked to be in it. I wonder where they signed up or made the "agreements..."

I could tell you, but then I'd have to kill you. 

LMFAO!!!!! 

[sstimson]

Ok But the Drug thing by it self is a Mind Screw. Also as You and I mentioned before Blanks CAN kill. A lot the the murder ways alao would not work in real life. So if it is not a Mind Screw Manga, then why does it keeping breaking the rules?

We already discussed the blanks and Akai's death already in this topic. Yes Gosho generally does do the research, but like most detective fiction, some stuff is allowed to slide for dramatic license. Sherlock Holmes had (Speckled Band spoiler!): snakes listening to whistles and drinking milk. If you want to label Sherlock a mind screw because some stuff doesn't mesh with reality then, well, even I can't help you there.

You used the word "Mind Screw". I am just saying Gosho is playing with Reality and our Heads though he likely doing it through Artistic License.

[Abs.]

LOL HAY GUYZ IT WUZ ALL A DREAM LOLOLOL

[sstimson]

Another question: How did Akai get into the Organization so fast? I know he got to know Akemi, but so what? He became Akemi's boyfriend, and so could now be a part of the BO? How does one become a part of the BO? Do they have to talk to the Boss? Or do they go straight up to Gin and ask? Do they go to a facility and sign a few papers? Or does a member just bring them in and ask for them to join? 

I had a theory about that ( Yes it is that word again ) They might go to the BO and offer to be MOLES.

How do they offer to be moles? Do they walk to Gin and ask to be one? Go to a facility and sign up? Talk to someone they know that could get them in? Talk to the boss? If all of these are the cases, Haibara and Rye might have either seen the boss, been in the sign-up facilities, or possibly walked up to Gin and asked to be in it. I wonder where they signed up or made the "agreements..."

The thought of a mole is like this: Akai is checking out the BO. He gets permission ot give the BO a little FBI info. He ask in return for a little BO information. Over time he tells his contact  he is 'unhappy' with the FBI and if the BO thinks he might be of use may ask him to basically become a MOLE for them.

[Abs.]

...That is not how these things work.

[sstimson]

...That is not how these things work.

no moles are more list this

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mole_(espionage)

[Chekhov MacGuffin]

Another question: How did Akai get into the Organization so fast? I know he got to know Akemi, but so what? He became Akemi's boyfriend, and so could now be a part of the BO? How does one become a part of the BO? Do they have to talk to the Boss? Or do they go straight up to Gin and ask? Do they go to a facility and sign a few papers? Or does a member just bring them in and ask for them to join? 

Since this appears to be becoming a sticking point. I'll try to seriously answer how Akai might have started working his way into the B.O. For the start you might want to read these two articles about how people become a part of real life mafia.
http://www.askmen.com/money/mafioso_60/79_mafia.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Made_man

This is a wild guess based on the above sources so be skeptical.
Basically by getting close to Akemi, Akai will be around low level agents of the organization. Akai will then talk with the people around him, some of whom are Syndicate agents, with the right sort of "street jargon". Akai can let it be known that he's interesting in making a buck "any way he might be able". Eventually, after checking him out a little to decide if he is trustworthy, some low level agents might recruit him to do a low level task like watching for police or collecting info on some dude. At this level of association with the Syndicate, Akai shouldn't be able to tell there is a large organization behind the job's he's getting. From Akai's perspective, some average low level gangster just needs a hired hand. (Of course, Akai knows it's the org but he has to pretend he doesn't.)
Eventually, after doing enough lowest level tasks to earn trust and prove his competency, the low level guys "promote" him and ask him to do higher level stuff, like blackmail, etc. The lower level guys don't at all let Akai in on the fact that there is an organization yet. Maybe the lower level guys don't even know themselves there is an organization. Eventually, word of Akai's competency will make it up to Akai's boss's bosses (these guys are probably still below Vodka's level), and they might make him a miniboss and give him stuff to do.
After doing more serious crimes and acquiring a reputation, Akai might be put on a mission with a low level code named agent. I would imagine the first mission would be something like being one of thugs who Vodka ordered to surround the station when he went to meet with Itakura. If he catches the eye of a codenamed agent, they may watch Akai and give him orders, and even meet him.
If Akai is good enough for the syndicate, the codenamed agents (ex. Vodka, Tequila), the executive codenamed agents (ex. Pisco, Gin), and presumably the boss will have a discussion about Akai's work and create a test or tests to evaluate if Akai is good enough to be made, i.e. become a codenamed agent himself. In the real life mafia, usually that entails performing one or more contract assassinations. At this point, Akai's background will also probably be thoroughly examined to make sure everything checks out. On completion of the tasks, Akai will receive his codename, and the organization will begin to allow Akai to know confidential information, but not much at first. At no point in this will Akai ever have the contact info of the boss, he's have to get to Vodka's level first most likely.

[Abs.]

...That is not how these things work.

no moles are more list this
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mole_(espionage)

[sstimson]

Another question: How did Akai get into the Organization so fast? I know he got to know Akemi, but so what? He became Akemi's boyfriend, and so could now be a part of the BO? How does one become a part of the BO? Do they have to talk to the Boss? Or do they go straight up to Gin and ask? Do they go to a facility and sign a few papers? Or does a member just bring them in and ask for them to join?  ???

Since this appears to be becoming a sticking point. I'll try to seriously answer how Akai might have started working his way into the B.O. For the start you might want to read these two articles about how people become a part of real life mafia.
http://www.askmen.com/money/mafioso_60/79_mafia.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Made_man

This is a wild guess based on the above sources so be skeptical.
Basically by getting close to Akemi, Akai will be around low level agents of the organization. Akai will then talk with the people around him, some of whom are Syndicate agents, with the right sort of "street jargon". Akai can let it be known that he's interesting in making a buck "any way he might be able". Eventually, after checking him out a little to decide if he is trustworthy, some low level agents might recruit him to do a low level task like watching for police or collecting info on some dude. At this level of association with the Syndicate, Akai shouldn't be able to tell there is a large organization behind the job's he's getting. From Akai's perspective, some average low level gangster just needs a hired hand. (Of course, Akai knows it's the org but he has to pretend he doesn't.)
Eventually, after doing enough lowest level tasks to earn trust and prove his competency, the low level guys "promote" him and ask him to do higher level stuff, like blackmail, etc. The lower level guys don't at all let Akai in on the fact that there is an organization yet. Maybe the lower level guys don't even know themselves there is an organization. Eventually, word of Akai's competency will make it up to Akai's boss's bosses (these guys are probably still below Vodka's level), and they might make him a miniboss and give him stuff to do.
After doing more serious crimes and acquiring a reputation, Akai might be put on a mission with a low level code named agent. I would imagine the first mission would be something like being one of thugs who Vodka ordered to surround the station when he went to meet with Itakura. If he catches the eye of a codenamed agent, they may watch Akai and give him orders, and even meet him.
If Akai is good enough for the syndicate, the codenamed agents (ex. Vodka, Tequila), the executive codenamed agents (ex. Pisco, Gin), and presumably the boss will have a discussion about Akai's work and create a test or tests to evaluate if Akai is good enough to be made, i.e. become a codenamed agent himself. In the real life mafia, usually that entails performing one or more contract assassinations. At this point, Akai's background will also probably be thoroughly examined to make sure everything checks out. On completion of the tasks, Akai will receive his codename, and the organization will begin to allow Akai to know confidential information, but not much at first. At no point in this will Akai ever have the contact info of the boss, he's have to get to Vodka's level first most likely.

I am going to disagree a little bit. Unless the BO already had a mole in the FBI, Then they needed one. They needed someone inside the FBI to let the BO keep an eye on how the BO investigation is going and if necessary make certain files disappear. They saw his in close with Hairaba sister and I am sure they checked him out. After finding out he was FBI, I am sure they then looked for a way to FORCE him to join them most likely involving blackmail. To them Akai was a chance they must not pass up. Again I am sure the FBI for quite a while know about some org Involved in a lot of crime and was investigating them.They might have even known it was the BO.